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A humble request, if you please listen, OOO.

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Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:33
Bernston

Currently, us Knights can acquire Trinkets, but in order to equip them, we are required to purchase Trinket Slot upgrades with our Crystal Energy up to two. I feel that it's a LITTLE bit tight for Knights who want to unlock the two Trinket Slots but don't have enough Crystal Energy to buy the slot upgrades yet. I feel it. So, I have a humble suggestion. My request is that you kindly add in another Trinket Slot, turn the first slot free for all Knights who wish to equip whatever trinket they acquire to occupy the first, free slot, and the next two Trinket Slot upgrades still obtainable by Crystal Energy purchase, just like the slot upgrades we still need to purchase today, thus increasing the Trinket Slot limit total to three. It's not difficult to add in another Trinket Slot upgrade and turn the first slot into a free slot for Knights to equip trinkets, is it? I'll be hoping to see that request included in a future update to the game, if you have the time to do so. Thanks again for listening to our requests, Three Rings!

Thu, 05/03/2012 - 15:43
#1
Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
"Humble"

Before I address any of the issues of this thread, there is one thing which absolutely must be acknowledged: never address a thread in this forum to Three Rings. If I were an admin and I had to read through threads, the ones which address Three Rings are almost always someone begging for a feature in the game to be easier. I have not read any of the post while writing this, but this is to preface what may come.

Trinket upgrades, yeah, what abou-

"Free trinket slots."

No.
Non.
Nay.
Nien.
Nyet.
No.
Absolutely not.

Why? Trinkets are extras, meaning they are not nearly as vital as your helmet or armor. There are only two trinket slots for balancing reasons. There is no reason there should be three, and especially no reason for any trinket/weapon slot to be available for free. You are asking for a feature which requires CE to no longer require CE, catering to players who do not purchase CE from Three Rings or other players. By not purchasing CE from Three Rings you are asking for them to stop profiting from an existing feature. By not buying from other players you are expecting rewards for doing nothing. This is one of the most selfish threads I have ever had the displeasure of reading. I will not grade it because of how horribly selfish this is. If I met you in person I would find a white rubber glove and slap you across the face with it.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 01:39
#2
Asukalan's picture
Asukalan
If you cant afford trinket

If you cant afford trinket slots, you obviously dont really need them.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:31
#3
Sirenblue's picture
Sirenblue
.

Times are coming where I reverse-engineer the first readable post to see what WOT did the OP post. ._.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:09
#4
Asukalan's picture
Asukalan
LOL

LOL

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:24
#5
Autofire's picture
Autofire
Sorry, it won't work

This has been talked about before, and the result was *shudders* nasty name fight. Anyway, it won't work too well. Being that these are optional items, and they don't even help you progress really. They just give you an extra edge. I think that this is one of the main ways OOO makes money, and giving even 1 free slot would decrease the value of getting more slots, unless that slot was very limited, i.e. could only accept 0 star items. Having 3 slots, though, is a bad, bad idea. Let me put it like this:

Penta-Heart Pendant x 3 = 18 extra points of HP. THIS IS AN INSANE NUMBER TO COME FROM TRINKETS.

The only chance this will be implemented is if you kept the current max(which is 2) and only had the first slot allowing meek trinkets. I understand how you feel. During the beta, I was feeling upset because a trinket I bought couldn't be equipped because I needed CE to unlock the slot I needed. (Of course, then, 100 CE cost about 13k to buy.) I was really, really confused when everyone started putting my thread down.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 13:53
#6
Bernston
Hmph! REALLY, Luguiru. I'm a nice player. It's NOT selfish.

There is no need for such petty insults.

As for the rest of you, I only requested the FIRST slot to be free ONLY, and the next two STILL purchasable by energy, not all slots to be totally free. This suggestion is NOT going to ruin everything, NOR will encourage players to not pay for energy. I mean, trinkets are optional extras, but the upcoming challenges are willing to be difficult soon, even with only two trinkets currently equipped. There's nothing wrong with getting a little more extra edge for further, tougher challenges, is it? There are various trinkets that offers loads of different bonuses. I only wanted a little something to up my game and keep the upgradable slots for later purchase, not make all slots free.

Seriously, don't be ill-mannered, Luguiru. We all respect one another here.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 13:57
#7
Softhead's picture
Softhead
-_-

I can afford trinket slots.

AND weapon slots.

AS a F2P.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 14:01
#8
Damienfoxy's picture
Damienfoxy
I'm about to just give out

I'm about to just give out slots for free... Tired of people whining

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 14:01
#9
Oatmonster's picture
Oatmonster
-1

I only requested the FIRST slot to be free ONLY, and the next two STILL purchasable by energy,

What you're asking for is to add another free trinket slot. That translates to people being able to have another six health or another med uv value. How can you not see that this would be horribly broken?

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 16:24
#10
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer
"I'm about to just give out

"I'm about to just give out slots for free-"

DIBS! :D

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 16:27
#11
Serell's picture
Serell
I want some trinket slots as

I want some trinket slots as well :O
Oh please, pretty please ^_^

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 16:50
#12
Damienfoxy's picture
Damienfoxy
But you haven't complained

But you haven't complained about not having them yet...

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 16:54
#13
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer
"But you haven't complained

"But you haven't complained about not having them yet..."

Orly? That can be changed...

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 17:02
#14
Addisond's picture
Addisond
No.

This is a nerf/more pay to win. No one wants that. We HATE nerfs (game is easy), and there are already too many pay to win opportunities. I don't think you've been around very long, so I'll explain how this is pay-to-win:

The most effective trinkets must be paid for on similar levels to 5* regular equipments. The heart pendant is a variety that offers additional health to the player. Hence, in PvP, the trinket is used a lot, as vitapods are absent and arguably the most effective method of play involves selecting a "class" (don't want to explain this, look up lockdown on the wiki) that offers lower health than any other. Hence, the better-off buy these and equip to give their already-low health a boost. As of now such players are almost un-killable to the newb; it takes around four or five hits. This would extend said health even further. So, no. Said NO! Also, the damage trinkets that are favored in PvE are expensive, as well. This gives the rich another advantage.

I know you have trinkets from the missions and want to use them, but this is a terrible solution (assuming I'm right in guessing who you are as a player). Also, this is how things have been.... since forever. It's OOO's game, let them decide what the mechanics should be. If your trinkets are really so important to you, you can keep one for a month for ~6kcr (conventionally paid in CE) assuming you're buying from a person and not the yayhoos at the supply depot.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 16:59
#15
Damienfoxy's picture
Damienfoxy
... That just scares the hell

... That just scares the hell out of me...

Just... Complain about anything...

If you make a funny enough complaint, i'll send your complimentary slot by mail in case you're not logged on.

(limit 30 slots!!!)

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 18:59
#16
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor
Eh. No. Less CE for OOO

Eh.

No.

Less CE for OOO coming out of trinket slots = less 'real' content.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 19:10
#17
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer
ANYTHING? 5\/\/337!!

Topic: Fright of my last pic

People of the ...forum. Today we are here to discuss the fright expressed by Damienfoxy toward this innocent pic [Article 1]

As you can see, it's a smiling pony dressed up as a doctor, of sorts.

Now we have Psychodestroyer, who will put forward his 'complaint'.

Psycho: "He's scared of a pony meme. I use them things all the time, and now he's scared. WHAT RIGHT DOES HE HAVE TO BE SCARED!? It's a %$#$% PONY!"

Uh...yeah, cool. Anyway, here's Damienfoxy with his defense.

Damienfoxy: "Uh...I don't know...it's just...scary..."

/t Damienfoxy: We have a quote from you when you experienced this ordeal. Would you object to us using it?

Damienfoxy: "...no?"

/play le quote: "... That just scares the hell out of me..."

Now, in case it's not clear (...seerusly!?) this person is obviously terrified at the sight of this picture. Psycho, care to argue your defense?

Psycho: "Indeed. For starters, we can determine that our subject is in fact, terrified. That much is obvious.

However, by examining the Article, we can ALSO determine that the subject of his terror is a PONY. A smiling DOCTOR pony no less.

Firstly, it's a PONY. An innocent, 'cute widdle pony', like these, of which I have visual evidence:

[Article 2]
[Article 3]
[Article 4]
[Article 5]
[Article 6]
[Article 7]
[Article 8]

I think I have made my point. Completely innocent ponies. How you could be afraid of them, I can think of no other reason than having one follow you around like a lovesick puppy when you were too young to realize it wasn't trying to eat you.

Secondly, it's a DOCTOR. As we all know, there are some people who have a fear of doctors, which is understandable, as they have certain tools and methods which may seem menacing. However, doctors exist solely for maintaining your health and well being (totally NOT because they want to get paid), so to fear them is to fear for your own healthiness.

Thirdly, the pony is SMILING. Now, unless you come from an alternate universe where smiling is a death threat, I'm pretty sure we all know smiling is a sign of goodwill or happiness. For you to be afraid of a smile...

There you have it. Three perfectly nice and good things, all feared by this one person. And for what? For him to fear these things, he MUST be a person from this 'other-dimension-of-no-smiles.'

If he's not, then he has no legal reason to fear this picture.

I rest my case..."

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Uh, great. Damienfoxy, what is your reaction to these accusations?

Damienfoxy: "...It STILL scares me..."

/Everyone "........."

Court adjourned, we will continue this later, when our subjects are more sane. For now, we will move to the case of the girl who threatened to re-write the universe.

Now, as we know such a thing is not possible, we will have to resort to using a youtube video for knowledge.

As we can see, this girl is called Haru-WAT DA FA-

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 19:12
#18
Bluebrawler's picture
Bluebrawler
@bernston

NO!

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 19:13
#19
Softhead's picture
Softhead
....Wut?

BTW, Psycho, food fight, NAO!

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 19:20
#20
Damienfoxy's picture
Damienfoxy
In my defense, bronies are an

In my defense, bronies are an incredibly disturbing fandom...

Also... I'll mail you two trinket slots tonight...

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 19:25
#21
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer
Kewl!

Thanks!

Btw, I'm not actually a brony. I just use the memes, know a few names for reference, but that's it. I haven't actually seen the show. Didn't even know there WAS one until I started using the memes actually.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 19:36
#22
Damienfoxy's picture
Damienfoxy
Just keep me laughing, i have

Just keep me laughing, i have 28 more trinket slots to give

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 19:40
#23
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer
I'll give it a shot. Any rules against doing it more than once?

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/251/739/82b.png

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/236/275/ab8.jpg

Now give me more time to think of something worth complaining about.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 19:44
#24
Bernston
Uh... does anybody make any sense here?

Some of you are being a bit off-topic about this. If you want to speak something unrelated to this game, I recommend you go to the off-topic section of the forums and just yap on about it like you don't care. And for the record, my idea won't forcibly decrease Crystal Energy purchases... EVER. I am certain of that.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 19:53
#25
Emerlite's picture
Emerlite
Free Trinket Slots

Read the above... (The first few)

'Nuff said'

:x

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 19:45
#26
Damienfoxy's picture
Damienfoxy
Nope. You could win em all if

Nope. You could win em all if you're hilarious enough

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 19:47
#27
Serell's picture
Serell
Ok... complaitn and get trinket slots...

...
...
...
Dang it, that sounds easy, but i really don't know what to complain about ._.

/emote punch's himself in the face

WAIT!!!
It is totally unfair becuase I'm too stupid i don't know how to be stupid and complain about stuff!!
This puts smart ppl like psycho at an advantige cuz he smart enuth to be stupit but i dunno how to be stupid you have to explain to me how to be stupit!!!!!!!!
smart ppl alwys get evthing they get jobs they get munny but what abot us stupit ppl?!?!?!
you need to make ur thing moor user fwiendly cuz rit now oly smart ppl like psycho can win tell me how to complain and sutff!!!
i shud repot u fur u bein mean 2 stupit ppl u tink ur all smarts and stuf!

(....Thats the best i got, sorry ._.)
/emote crosses his fingers and hopes he wins some trinket slots

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 19:53
#28
Softhead's picture
Softhead
-_-

How long HAS he been playing to be sure?

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 19:56
#29
Emerlite's picture
Emerlite
Hmmm

No idea. :P

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 19:55
#30
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer
Fine, a little more on topic discussion then.

"And for the record, my idea won't forcibly decrease Crystal Energy purchases... EVER. I am certain of that."

Ok, you are incorrect in stating this.

In shorter terms, buying Trinket slots costs CE. By taking away the cost of even ONE trinket, that's a few hundred ce that could've been spent in that month NOT spent.

Most people only want/need 1-2 trinkets to use anyway, bigger spenders will use three of course.

But most people, the people that are still moving through the game an prioritize their spending will probably only ever use the ONE trinket slot.

As it stands currently, if someone needs a Trinket, they're pressured into getting one by their circumstances, and will likewise limit themselves, but still get it.

If this is implemented, they won't NEED to pressure themselves, and just use that trinket. They won't really think of buying ce until MUCH later.

Overall, this causes less people to buy ce (cr or cash, neither matters, because all lead to the same thing) because they already have PART of what they need. Getting the other parts will increase their advantage, yes, but they're less likely to want to do that, for want of doing other things with their cash.

@Damienfoxy: I'll link you over to a thread in GC for this when I get around to whining about something.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 19:56
#31
Damienfoxy's picture
Damienfoxy
... Nope.avi.

... Nope.avi.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 19:57
#32
Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
What you say

Yes, they are getting off topic; why? This concept is selfish regardless of your unsupported denial. Trinkets are as their name implies; trinkets, frivolities, extras. They should only be usable for those willing to support the upgrade. What are you going to do, whine to mommy no one wants Three Rings to lose money for selfish and unhelpful reasons?

"Giving everyone a free trinket slot will not influence the CE market for Three Rings."

Driving a car with your forehead instead of your hands is legal under this logic.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 20:00
#33
Damienfoxy's picture
Damienfoxy
Ok to the link. Holy crap, i

Ok to the link. Holy crap, i should post this as a contest! *does so*

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 20:19
#34
Serell's picture
Serell
DANG IT!!!!

... Didn't win any trinket slots ._.
/sad
/cry
/goes emo
/cuts himself

WHY CAN'T I BE STUPID AND COMPLAIN ABOUT SOME STUPID THING!!!
THINK, BRAIN, THINK!!!
WHAT CAN YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT?!

This is all your fault, Damienfoxy!!
You SUCK!!!
I can't think of anything to complain about, and everyone else is going to win those trinket slots!
GAHHH!
I hate myself!!
You... you remind of how much i hate myself!
Every day of my life i will always renember of how i could have won those trinket slots if i could have thought of something to complain about!
And all that could have been avoided if you weren't giving away trinket slots to people who could complain.
But no, every night i will cry myself to sleep q_q
And dream... dream... of never waking up.
But I'll wake up, depressed, alone, unloved, and... *tears start falling*.. no trinket slots.
Your game is totally unfair for people who don't know what to complain about, you are such a jerk!
I hope someone bans you from SK for the rest of your life so you cannot hurt people like me anymore D:<

/yeah don't take that seriously that is my 2nd fail attempt at complaining ._.

EDIT : Ima copy-paste this in your new thread for my 0.00000001% chance at winning :S

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 20:19
#35
Damienfoxy's picture
Damienfoxy
I got a slight chuckle...

I got a slight chuckle... Nothing major. But i will award one trinket slot. Please repost on the gremlin chatter contest board.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 20:21
#36
Serell's picture
Serell
WHAT?!

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!!
I WON A TRINKET SLOT!!!
I AM SO HAPPY!!!
Oh mah gosh if i ever see you in-game remind me to hug you ^_^

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 20:27
#37
Damienfoxy's picture
Damienfoxy
Hugging me will result in the

Hugging me will result in the loss of trinket slot.

Nah i kid.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 21:18
#38
Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
What is this silliness

This conveys my thoughts properly.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 21:57
#39
Rommil's picture
Rommil
didn't read any posts but OP

luv it. should be so.

edit:
reading a bit more.
I think it should be 1 free slot, and four total. They could easily implement 2 per of each. only 2 ctr trinkets or 2 asi trinkets or 2 health trinkets. this would disallow some game breaking features, while encouraging trinket purchases (in much the same way the give newbs 2 free accessories to get them interested early in accessories).

or, if worried about game breaking, they could force "4th trinket is a status affect bonus only" so that we could do 2 of any 1 trinket (health, damage, asi, ctr) and one of another (same) and the 4rth as a status bonus.

i feel like it'd encourage CE spending, while not breaking the game. still love the idea. and i think this amendment would keep the game from becoming any more broken while adding more ce sinks.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 22:17
#40
Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
Rommil is a troll

Anyone who supports this idea does not realize what it is suggesting or is the same selfish fodder; not because I personally dislike it, but because it is entirely selfish and harms everyone except the less experienced community. Imagine stabbing your parents in the stomach then asking for them to make you dinner.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 15:19
#41
Bernston
Well, I SAY! The very thought about that!

No means of intentionally offending you, mind you, but, this is no time for thoughts about parents, Luguiru. Hope you're being sarcastic about that. Your last comments at the end are just... pure balderdash! But at least, SOMEONE agrees with this suggestion... thoroughly, though. Sorry if I'm being a bit harsh about this. Don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.

EDIT: Serell, don't mind Luguiru's comments about your mind. It's fine as it is, functioning and well-made. Remember these words, "sticks and stones". Just don't mind these insults.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 15:27
#42
Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
Stop crying

I have not referred to Serell in any manner in this entire thread.

I am going to make this very clear so even the most ignorant and simplistic users can understand:

A third trinket slot would be overpowered. Giving a trinekt slot for free would only hurt Three Rings and regular CE customers while the less wealthy users gain. This concept is selfish because it rewards fodder for doing nothing while making everyone overpowered. Three Rings does not want us to be overpowered. Three Rings would not want this idea because it conflicts with what they want which takes priority. If you want to reply to a post it is mandatory to read the post first.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 15:49
#43
Rommil's picture
Rommil
Wow

Luguiri is awfully full of herself. Your analogy made no sense given the context of the discussion. Just because you do not endorse an idea doesn't make it bad. There are lots of different suggestions, and lots of them have merit, wether it fits you 'rubric' or not.

You areby no means the good idea police, and your opinion holds little to no weight outside of yourself, just like everyone else here to make suggestions.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 16:19
#44
Mk-Vl's picture
Mk-Vl
Rommil

I think Luguiru's opinion does hold weight because they stop and think about posts, hence the usual massive walls of text. Now and then they do get massively condescending but that is usually only after someone posts a few inane posts in a row.

Edit: also they way trinkets are now is that with 6.4kcr you can get 100ce. Giving one day for mist runs to get the crs and two days waiting for mist to fill you can get two trinket slots for the month. Not that expensive or time consuming.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 16:07
#45
Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
Da poleece

You are a troll/spam alternate and hold no bearing to the discussion. My opinion is not relevant because I do not give it, I state the facts and await a competent response which addresses its issues. My rubric is entirely based on the content of the thread with no opinionated influence and has not been used recently because none of the new threads have their base content or are too horrible to have their issues properly addressed.

Yes, I am part of the fuzz; I break into your house and point my fingers up your nose until I hit brain and then wipe that finger off on your shirt because it is disgusting in there. In this thread I have only given the facts based on experience with balancing theoretical content and frontline mechanic use. The difference between you and I is I am able to prove where something is right or wrong and you are an alternate used to support yourself because you are too cowardly to do so yourself.

Keep in mind no one else supports this thread; they are all distracted with silly shenanigans while you and your alternate play patty cake. Do not bother responding until you get rid of the diaper and put some pants on. This is a respectable establishment and we will not have you soiling the freshly cleaned carpet with the vomit and feces you insist on bathing in.

Apparently I now have the female alter ego "Luguiri". Should I make an alternate to "feminize" my posts for all the whining children rolling around?

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 16:50
#46
Voxren
The truth

complaining about trinket slots being unfair purchasing with CE is the equivalent to complaining in an RPG about a great weapon being too expensive, seriously though if you want a trinket slot you have to work for it not sit and whine and complain about it (not trying to be a troll just saying the truth)

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 18:10
#47
Serell's picture
Serell
Derp ._.

"EDIT: Serell, don't mind Luguiru's comments about your mind. It's fine as it is, functioning and well-made. Remember these words, "sticks and stones". Just don't mind these insults."

Em yeah i don't like Luguiru, but he hasn't said anything to me in this thread.
His posts can be very condescending, but if you look behind all the fake attacks he can sometimes make sense.
I believe he is right here.
3 trinkets would be OP.
Please don't make me look bad ._.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 18:28
#48
Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
Herp

Not to worry, no one likes me; this way I can never be biased in favor of anyone or receive biased support from others.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 21:31
#49
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
Unique peoples here.

Truthful, but hurtful. That's our Luguiru.

Sun, 05/06/2012 - 21:40
#50
Aemicus's picture
Aemicus
Look at it this way. Luguiru

Look at it this way. Luguiru keeps the weak ones, the ones who shouldn't be playing online games, off of the forums. And btw, when I looked at the suggested spelling for his name, it was Lugubrious. Which for some reason I find hilarious.

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