Spiral Knights - FSC loadout (Need help with what upgrades to choose first)

FSC loadout (Need help with what upgrades to choose first)

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Sun, 05/20/2012 - 08:46

Psykoglory

I was wondering what swords to upgrade first, for FSC purposes.

I currently have a silent nightblade, avenger, bts , vog cap, ash tail coat, twisted snarble barb, and all hammers. I also have a spiral demo set freezing vaporizer and crystal bomb (2*s).

I have the recipes for btb, but not dtb, and vog coat. I already decided on upgrading to vog coat first.

Should I build a blitz, da (I like the charge a lot, but I already have elemental sword), btb, perfect mask of seerus, or a bomber loadout with shiver and rss first?
(Considering I already have a hammer for elemental dmg, and sword bonuses already.)

Yes, I am planning to do vana.

Any suggestions/opinions welcome.

Sun, 05/20/2012 - 10:27

Bopp

for FSC

It helps if these things are in a list:
* Acheron: Shadow weapons are nearly useless in FSC. So, while I love Acheron in general, someone focused on FSC should just ignore it.
* Divine Avenger, Warmaster Rocket Hammer: I definitely prefer DA over WRH in FSC, but if you have WRH already, then upgrading to DA is certainly a low priority. Just use WRH for now, I agree.
* Barbarous Thorn Blade: This is great for trojans, especially if you're solo. Some people use it against Vanaduke's body, but that requires careful water management. If you're going to get Blitz Needle, then BTB is even less useful in FSC. So ignore BTB for now.
* Blitz Needle, Shivermist Buster: These are now the default weapons for Vanaduke. If you have one or the other, then you are much more valuable to a typical party, than if you have neither. If you have both, then you are very versatile, but you can't really use both in the Vanaduke fight, so they are ultimately redundant. While you're first learning FSC, Shivermist Buster can be handy, for keeping monsters under control. But after a while you realize that almost all fights are better without it.
* Vog Cub, PMoS, bomber gear: In defense, you want normal, elemental, shadow, and fire. Of these, I think that shadow is the least crucial, because the zombies are not really very difficult. After that, choose based on the mix of offensive bonuses that you like.
* BTS: This is a great shield for experienced FSC sworders, but when you are first learning FSC, a more defensive shield such as Grey Owlite Shield might be a lot easier.

Sun, 05/20/2012 - 10:38

Atacii

Assuming you upgrade to full

Assuming you upgrade to full vog...

Blitz build: Perfect Mask, Vog, Swiftstrike, Hammer, Blitz. Get blitz first.

Shiv build: Full vog, BTS, Hammer, Shiv. Get shiv first.

After you have both builds, you can work towards a more bombery shiv build, but you want to be able to fill either role early on.

If you already have the 5* hammer, you can focus on upgrading your other gear for now. But if you really want to upgrade your swords, I would suggest BTB first, then DA, then Acherron.

Sun, 05/20/2012 - 10:55

Fradow

I agree with Bopp, and

I agree with Bopp, and especially on the shield issue. If you use a BTS right off the bat, you may have trouble, as it can't take as much hits than more defensive shields (let alone the Swiftstrike Atacii advise .... seriously, don't get that).

Also, see for yourself if you can use the Hammer without walking too much into the fire. The dash really is dangerous there, and if you don't use it you are better off using a DA.

Sun, 05/20/2012 - 13:38

Psykoglory

I use bts, and it very rarely

I use bts, and it very rarely breaks, so I'm fine with it.

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 04:31

Delardino

Go for the DA the charge is

Go for the DA the charge is very useful as it can push back zombies approaching you in tight places when you have nowhere to go.. For the Vana floor either upgrade the Shivermist or Blitz..

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 07:00

Halifix

4 major points in FSC: 1st:

4 major points in FSC:
1st: AoE for slags.
2nd: Something to occupy you during Vana fights.
3rd: Defense as needed.
4th: A method for dealing with Trojans.

If you're good with your hammer, then get a blitz. It's useful both against Vana and against Trojans. Otherwise, I guess get that DA. If you're going to bomb, try to get at least ctr vh (altogether) on your bombs.

I find the polaris to be highly effective. It's safe AoE damage, even against Vanaduke. Although, some newbie Blitzes may complain if you defreeze Vana too much.

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 11:45

Atacii

Guess I'm a newbie blitz as I

Guess I'm a newbie blitz as I don't think the paltry 150 or whatever the polaris does is worth interrupting blitz charges doing 3~4k...

I used BTS at FSC when I first started and didn't have any problems with it, but then again I've never bothered with anything but BTS or Swiftstrike at FSC, so maybe something like Crest or VPS makes things easier.

Don't see why Owlite would be such a great shield for FSC. Most everything does shadow and/or normal.

Tue, 05/22/2012 - 18:23

Halifix

Not what I meant.

Trojan melee attack is pure normal damage (his other moves deal some shadow, though). Also, Vana deals some elemental damage.

With zombies nerfed so heavily, the only defensive shield worth getting is the Volcanic Plate Shield, so that you can likely survive a Vana mace strike. Crest of Almire and Ancient Plate Shield are nice cheaper alternatives.
And when I say newbie blitzes, I mean those that don't position themselves well enough to dodge Vana's mace if he's not frozen. It's not hard to sync dual-tap pulsar and blitz charge, though.

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