I agree that the unbinding feature is price, but you could sell the items you don't want for a fraction of what you paid for by selling it to the General Goods buy in Bazaar.

IGN: StWhiteStorm

I try to make sure that I'll actually need the weapon and/or armour before I craft it. If I no longer need it, (although I haven't gotten to that point yet, thankfully) I'll probably sell it to an NPC to make back at least some of the cash I put into making it.

The way I see it, the ridiculous prices for unbinding are to dissuade people from unbinding their weapons to sell for an even more ridiculous price on the AH which, at the same time, prevents merchanting of weapons and armour. With this, you're more likely going to spend time upgrading your weapons yourself than to buy overpriced ones on the AH as it's a shedload cheaper (although with CE prices at the moment that could be argued). And if you put the work into upgrading something to 4* then you're then more likely going to keep it.

If I worked for Three Rings and had the authority I would increase all unbinding prices by 10% for a week because of this thread.

Then I would make it permanently +25% just for the original poster out of spite.

Once upon a time, there was no unbinding system. Gear would unbind when you crafted it up a level, which made for nice industry type things, whereas people could afford to pay other people to make them gear. Then the devs decided that it made gear too common. Rather than increasing the rarity of dropped materials, or otherwise doing something stable and/or subtle that did not mess up the economy, they made all crafted gear bound to your character if it was bound before crafting. After several dozen pages of players quitting, and saying how it hurt the game, nothing was done about it at all.

Good luck trying. I support you.

Thesnipinggod = stupid

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Equipment in this game is pretty much the equivalent of progression.

In very few other games can you sell progression. You can sell things meant to accompany a progressed character (i.e. high-level gear), but not the progression itself. The fact that you can poses a challenge to the whole concept of SK as a game. That unbind cost represents your ability to pass your own progression on to somebody else--a very unique and, if you ask me, controversial feature. So Three Rings balanced it out by making it really unappealing to an average seller. Also, you can buy additional things through the mission shop once you have already progressed to the point of having at least one such set. Those items also set a sort of value floor for most high-level equipment in the game.

So you gotta be rich if you want to play Tier 3 right away. Otherwise, get there through experience. This makes sense. Anything else will mean more newbies in my random Tier 3 runs...which isn't very appealing.

"I completely agree with this I really don't want to have to spend real world cash on this I want to buy more important things like an ipod and a smartphone. I got into this game for fun and my friends told me it was free to play now initially thats true but once you start wanting to get 4 and 5 star items you obviously you have to pay for the ce otherwise you have to save your crowns FOREVER in order to get a single 4 star item. I definately think they should just make materials harder to find and release a boatload more ce and other stuff (or something to compenstate for the lack of people buying ce with real money"

First of all, an iPod or a SmartPhone aren't even that "important." iPods are for entertainment which I don't give a crap about, and you can find much cheaper phones with the same basic functions as a SmartPhone, which you only really need.

Second, sure it takes a long time to upgrade to 4* 5*, but the game isn't meant to be finished in a day or two. I've spent more than a year playing the game so far, and it still hasn't lost any of it's lust. Call me slow, as I haven't even done my first SL yet, but still; take your time.

Third, why should the game give free to play players free CE and stuff for free, just because we don't buy? It's your own fault you aren't buying CE. Deal with it.

@Thesnipingod

Are you really that stupid? You really need to understand the economy better, sonny boy.

The Sniping God just got sniped. Ouch.

I dont see how lowering unbind costs will cause more noobs in T3, it would just cause THE noobs in T3 to be able to buy stuff a bit cheaper and the seller to get a reason to actually unbind.

The most amusing part is how that happens at least once every couple weeks.

a 5 star is supposed to be expensive so that people CAN'T just skip to T3 demonicsothe if someone is really struggling with the amount of enemies and type of attacks you deffinetely won't want to skip to T3 untill you get more skill, the enemies just shoot 5 bullets at a time, more status effects and the flame throwers are 5 times bigger (no joke), there is a BIG jump in difficulty, I once let a friend of mine play T3 on my account, i have full 5 star equip with good UV's and everything but he died very quick. the point of the actual 5 stars, unbinding costs,etc is so that noobs don't come into T3 and piss off all the people who can actually play the game properly. although the point of selling the actual 5 stars is for other people with 5 stars not the new people looking for a shortcut.

I am for reducing the unbind price for 4 and 5 stars but not getting rid of it. i think it will be good and increase the amount of stuff sold. although with decreased unbind prices it is more likely to increase the profit from sold weapons not decrease the price of them

if what?

...If you just said the exact same thing at Demonic but worded it as if you were disagreeing with him.

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@Awsome-One

"I got into this game for fun and my friends told me it was free to play now initially thats true but once you start wanting to get 4 and 5 star items you obviously you have to pay for the ce otherwise you have to save your crowns FOREVER in order to get a single 4 star item."

Interesting. I told my friend about SK, and he started playing it. He got full 5* after about a month, and he was complete F2P. So... What you said, DATS A LIE. :P

@Thesnipinggod

I don't see why people would want to sell stuff that they earned after lots of hard work... IMO they should just remove Vise. Unbinding messes up the game. If some guy is a T1 noob and get a bajillion crowns for some reason, but has only been playing the game for 2 minutes, and he instantly buys his way into T3, he'll think it's too hard. He'd think that with all his pro gear he can solo Shadow Fire Vanaduke, and thus end up constantly dieing in T3, since he didn't do T1 or T2. He'd have no idea what traps and monsters work, have no practice at anything (except for what you do in the crash site and rescue camp), keep dying, spam energy rev, cry, think the game is too hard, rage, and quit the game forever.

All because they've been playing for several minutes and go immediately to hardcore endgame content.

Apparently entertainment is a waste of money, so instead money would be better spent on entertainment.

Both options have merit for different reasons. A phone or music device can be taken with you because it is a real object, however that also means it can be destroyed and/or stolen easier and be more difficult to replace. Virtual products are easier to keep track of and are easier to replace so long as there is evidence proving that it should be replaced and you are not scamming the business for free stuff. An iPod can come with you in the car or at work, but the virtual product requires more commitment to enjoy. Either sit down and play the game or go listen to moozik in the corner.

"DLC", downloadable content. Expansions.

MMO games in particular always require commitment to the game to progress. If you want to get further you have to work for it, though most games try to get a few bucks out of you either by buying access to the game or having premium features in the game. In my experience the only MMO games which do not have a means to make a profit die off due to lack of funding. Games which make you pay up front for access tend to have a more limited community, excluding the common fodder who only play for something to do. This meant the community actually wanted to be there rather than fiddle with something for the moment. This also tends to happen with newer or underrated games, such as Wakfu. You have to want to play the game to enjoy it.