Spiral Knights - Increase Weapon Slots

Increase Weapon Slots

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Wed, 07/04/2012 - 03:00

Dando-Real-Ita

Could it be possible to increase weapon slots, i.e. double them?
For example in Lockdown I would like to bring 3 swords, 4 bombs and 1 gun.
In PvE, I would bring 1 sword, 5 bombs, 3 guns.

Right now, expecially in LD, 4 slots are too few ( 2 swords + 2 bombs -> no room for guns or damage/status resistant enemies ).
I would not mind at all to pay 1000 CE/month more to unlock the extra slots.
To not make things extra complex, you can make 2 sets of 4 weapons, and allow to switch the sets with a key ( i.e. like the W character in diablo 2 ) so no special change in the hud is necessary

Wed, 07/04/2012 - 05:06

Oatmonster

Lick

NO, absolutely not.

4 weapon slots is enough for both PVE and PVP

Why the heck would you need 5 bombs in PVE when you could easily do it with just 2 and even 1?

There are things called arsenal stations. Use them

Wed, 07/04/2012 - 05:19

Zeddy

A magic trick

You have this thing called teammates. You can use this thing called communication to organize so you can cover each other's deficiencies.

Honestly I'd like to see everyone just have two weapons in Lockdown, that's what I use.

Wed, 07/04/2012 - 06:03

Orangeo

Four weapon slots is already

Four weapon slots is already too much as it is. Logicaly, with a scroll mouse you should only have three.

Not only that, but that's like playing rock paper and scissors in a game of rock paper scissors, all at once, and then not using the one that dosen't work.

Wed, 07/04/2012 - 06:25

Dando-Real-Ita

No one will force you to

No one will force you to unlock the weapons slots.

In PvE, I can easily bring a Vortex, a Shiver, a Voltaic, a Stagger, an Ash of Agni, a Venom. And sometimes you want to play in 1 or 2, and maybe your bombs have a better CTR than the teammate one.

But multiple slots in PvE is not as important as in PvP.

Zeddy claims to bring only 2 weapons in lockdown, which ones? Surely you miss one between bombs and guns. And your sword, or is normal and does less-than-average damage to all, or is specific damage and not optimized vs opponents.
If you bring just 2 swords, than you just can't reach a bomber.

If you use status bombs, one is not enough, because there are equips with resistances. And you may want to bring different bombs to deliver different statuses based upon enemies equip & class. Freeze is good vs vog and other general equip but not vs skolver, Stun is good vs strikers, AoA fire keeps recons visible, Shock is all-around usefull but many resist to it. Meanwhile you want 1-2 guns to threat enemies who do not try to approach the mist covering you, and 2-3 swords to fast-kill if someone is hitted by the mist.
It's PvP and the other team can have all sorts of combinations of classes, damage and status resistances, and a serious LD player wants to be able to handle all of them.

I can happily pay thousands CE to get the full equip with best UVs to be ready for every evenience, and I don't see why I am forced to not use it because of only 4 slots. So now, with an ASI max + Damage max BtB, an ASI max + Damage max GF, a CTR max Stagger, a CTR max Voltaic I already have to keep out my CTR max AoA, while with extra slots I would equip it, search for a CTR max Shiver, then I would search for an ASI VH alchemer and AP/Senteza: 8 slots.
As unlocking more than 2 slots is optional, no one who would not use the extra slots would be affected

I don't see why I should have deficiences to start, and why it should be covered by someone else ( which is not assured he is logged in to play when you can play ) when I can afford to cover them, and it's the game limiting me.

Orangeo:

There are binding keys. I currently use Q E R F. I can set up the switch on tab or V and have fast access to all 8 slots.

Wed, 07/04/2012 - 06:37

Zeddy

Swords are boring

Primarily I use Voltaic Tempest and Polaris. Within the range of VT I don't have to worry about (most) swordsmen so I've turned it into a gunfight, in which I use my gun. I've held many control points completely on my own against multiple enemies with this loadout. If I have a teammate with me the control point can be considered unbreachable.

If some jerk is resistant to shock, then either my teammate can take care of it or I'll bring Venom Veiler and a sword. You can't win a swordfight against someone who does more damage and takes less damage than you.

Wed, 07/04/2012 - 06:50

Dando-Real-Ita

So with the 1st loadout, a

So with the 1st loadout, a fast gun - AP or alchemer will always outclass you.
A simple fast gun can block you from charging your VT, then they can come close to you and finish with sword.

With the 2nd loadout, you are just completely open to gunners.

Wed, 07/04/2012 - 07:15

Klipik

This is unnecessary

I have only a few weapons that i use: Nightblade, KIlowatt, antigua, toxic needle, TSB, avenger, and faust. i can use any combination of these to do guaranteed critical dmg to up to 4 families and no weakness to any. i can do it with 2 slots, you don't need 8.

Wed, 07/04/2012 - 07:19

Aplauses

Disagree.

I disagree because
> So irritating.
> If this implement, then the lockdown will be ruins.
> I think 4 is enough.
> It will allow us to be greedy.
> Make new player jealous.
> Where to put the icon while the knight tab is already full enough. (Maybe you not understand this)
> Unfair.
> Bad Crown sink.

I have 100 reason for it. You are lucky because you got only 8.

Wed, 07/04/2012 - 07:22

Dukeplatypus

4 slots is a luxury, you can

4 slots is a luxury, you can do pretty damn well with 2 weapons in PvE or PvP.
PvE, just take 2 different damage weapons or normal.
PvP, just take a toothpick and either a heavy sword or Polaris.

If you need much more than 4 weapons, there's something wrong with you. Not to mention the nightmare of switching to the right one.

Wed, 07/04/2012 - 16:57

#10

Zeddy

@Dando-Real-Ita

Someone using Antigua-type guns are very, very easy targets for Polaris. I can knock them away and maybe shock them and that'll give me an opening to charge VT.

With the second loadout I just slash at gunners. They're not hard to chase with a combination of flailing at them between their shots and blocking or dodging what they're shooting at me.

You are correct that those are weaknesses of my loadouts, but that's what teammates are for. Even if Lockdown wasn't a game you're not at all supposed to play and succeed in all by yourself, don't you think I could cover all the weaknesses I had with just 3 or Vanaduke forbid 4 weapon slots? There's a reason Lockdown has several classes, and that reason is to have different players fill different roles and compensate for eachothers weaknesses.

Wed, 07/04/2012 - 17:51

#11

The-Ark

There is absolutely no need for this whatsoever. Not only would it be a complete nightmare to switch to the right weapon, but it would coat you an extra 900 CE A MONTH, and make LD even more unbalanced.

With 4 weapon slots you can cover each special damage type, each being a different weapon type, and one extra for you to chose. If you actually feel you need to carry 8 weapons at a time, your not thinking right.

Wed, 07/04/2012 - 20:25

#12

Nechrome

._. /facepalm This game does

._.

/facepalm

This game does not center around PVP. No need to change several game mechanics to make Lockdown more horrible.

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