Spiral Knights - Separated Bonus Trinkets

Separated Bonus Trinkets

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Thu, 07/05/2012 - 03:32

Ewbte

Only 5* trinkets which have two low bonuses.
Would be helpful with Low/High uv'd gear and will bring new interesting gear combinations (like fallen pieces and chaos pieces).
Also sometimes you have bomb or sword or gun with CTR High, and at lvl 10 it has Ultra.. equipping trinket with ctr med will become in loosing of one "low". Same things with ASI or DMG.

Types:

• DMG Low + ASI Low (guns or swords)
• ASI Low + CTR Low (guns or swords)
• CTR Low + DMG Low (guns or swords or bombs)

Obviously for each types of weapons, not for all at once.

Added:
For example, you want to make a CTR Low + DMG Low trinket, so you need to craft CTR Low trinket and DMG Low trinket first, and only then you combine them into one. Total spend will be 1600CE + 10000cr, when one Medium trinket costs only 1200CE + 7500cr. (excluding mats)

Added too:
Leave the crafting system and just adding them to featured auctions with fixed price - would resolve a lot of troubles in bringing this to game.

Discuss.

Thu, 07/05/2012 - 05:35

Exerpa

As far as I comprehend it,

As far as I comprehend it, the equations of deciding how many units of attribute gear receives suggest 2 lows are worth less than 1 medium. The most obvious indicator being 2 trinkets offering a low each are cheaper to craft than one offering a medium.

That being said, being able to increase the stats of some gear by small amounts with out squandering the bonuses of another could be be handy, but is possibly too conditional to be widely used.

Thu, 07/05/2012 - 08:47

Luguiru

Hurp

Low = +1
Medium = +2
High = +3
Very High = +4
Ultra = +5
Max = +6

The reason why the Krogmo gauntlets give +1 at 4* and are cheaper than making the 5* is because the +2 bonus is greater than the +1 so you will want to upgrade it, therefore spending more resources to upgrade it.

Thu, 07/05/2012 - 09:42

Juances

Not to mention you waste more slots. In the long rung, having equipped 2 lows is more expensive than just 1 medium, besides limiting your options.

Thu, 07/05/2012 - 11:06

Ewbte

Luguiru, sorry, I should tell

Luguiru, sorry, I should tell about prices and crafting system in first message..

It should not be cheaper than making current 5* trinkets.
But that will be hard to bring in game, and I think much easier way is:
For example, you want to make a CTR Low + DMG Low trinket, so you need to craft CTR Low trinket and DMG Low trinket first, and only then you combine them into one. Total spend will be 1600CE + 10000cr, when one Medium trinket costs only 1200CE + 7500cr.

Thu, 07/05/2012 - 11:17

Ewbte

Juances, another example to

Juances, another example to you.

maybe I have a Divine Avenger with CTR High UV and an Acheron with CTR High and I also use Swiftstike Buckler. So if I will equip one trinket with CTR Low + ASI Low and one trinket with ASI Med I'll have CTR MAX and ASI MAX on both swords.
There is a lot more interesting sets that could be done with this trinkets, as armor of the fallen with this ASI Low, Chaos Set with it's poor stats and even more. This trinkets will open big amount of different equipment choice, which results in more CE spend by players.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:02

Maharito

Am I the only one who

Am I the only one who comprehends what Ewbte is getting at??

The 4* trinkets are worth less because you could only get two levels of enhancement with two of them while you could get four levels of enhancement with two 5* trinkets. Ewbte is talking about more ways to get those four levels of enhancement that are friendlier to optimizing equipment with odd-numbered levels of enhancement. For example, if wearing a Vog/Skolver split set (and not a Swiftstrike Buckler) and two of your swords are ASI High while a third is ASI Medium, what are the odds you'll want to use a 5* Sword ASI trinket instead of Sword Damage?

I get where Ewbte is going and I support it, but not emphatically. There are lots of bigger fish to fry, man.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 08:06

Orangeo

I think there are better ways

I think there are better ways to do this. Not that this is a bad solution.

Always thought it would be nice if you could pick what your heat bonus was. Swords should get ASI or damage, guns should get ASI or CTR, bomb should get CTR or damage. Your choice, you can pick one of each or two of one. Of course, swords base strength would have to be nerfed a bit if this happened. It's obvious though that bombs benifit more from being heated up than swords right now, but swords are dangerous as they are. Also, this would mean no damage from being heated up, because then you'd stack with low or medium damage easialy. As in without adding the bonus you should do the same damage at level 1 as level 10.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 13:23

Rommil

well...

with all due respect Orangeo, but i think Ewbte's suggestion for how this could be employed is perfect.

i.e. make to low trinks as 4* and then you have to combine them to make the 5*. I really like it for the cross-pollination opportunities this would create. The idea of being able to run a bomb damage bonus low + gun asi low trinket. then your other trinket could be sword asi low + ctr low. OR whatever.

The idea of creating the two 4* low trinks first would really work well for letting you to create whatever trinket it is you wanted/needed.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 17:00

Derpules

+1000

Yes. This.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 17:16

#10

Canine-Vladmir

-1000

No. The universe is balanced again!!!

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:31

#11

Serell

yes

Great idea. +1

Sad thing is... it's another ce sink ;_;

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 03:15

#12

Ewbte

Oh.. "Obviously for each

Oh.. "Obviously for each types of weapons, not for all at once."
It means NO "sword low + bomb low", "gun low + sword low". it means only "sword + sword", "bomb + bomb", "gun + gun".

And in this case it's not affect balance in game, when "bomb + sword" like trinket might affect, but probably could work too..

Please read more accurate.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 05:00

#13

Orangeo

I get it, I just think we

I get it, I just think we shouldn't really have trinkets like that in the first place. It's another place where OOO has turned a crown sink into a net CE sink. I can't name a place that really only sinks crowns other than the AH. I was pushing for being able to get different bonuses from heating your weapon other than CTR.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 08:37

#14

Ewbte

Okay, another way is featured

Okay, another way is featured auctions with fixed price in crowns. That will resolve the trouble of crafting system.

Sun, 07/08/2012 - 14:54

#15

Serell

bump bumpa bumpity bump bump

Wed, 07/11/2012 - 02:34

#16

Ewbte

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