Spiral Knights - Looking for a new Shield

Looking for a new Shield

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Jue, 07/05/2012 - 19:18

Theopholis

I've been using the Barbarous Thorn Shield for sometime now, for it's damage bonus, but have reached the point where I'm using trinkets, and can achieve both a Max Damage bonus and a Max ASI without my shield. I'm currently running with swords exclusively (WRH, FF, and Acheron), and wouldn't mind having a shield that could stand to take a few more hits.

Any suggestions?

I'll likely put one UV on it, at least, and will keep trying until I get a Max of that UV, so that can be taken into consideration as well.

Alternatively, I could use a Penta-Heart trinket and keep the shield as is, would that be better? I feel like I'd rather get hit less than be able to take more hits.

Jue, 07/05/2012 - 19:49

Demonicsothe

Grey Owlite Shield or Heater

Grey Owlite Shield or Heater shield for elemental defence.

Crest of Almire or Skelly Shield for shadow.

Your bts or ironmight for piercing defence.

Just wondering, are you using swords with vh asi uv's? Would your armor set happen to be vog/skolver, with 2 damage trinkets?

Jue, 07/05/2012 - 20:32

Bopp

some UVs

"Max Damage bonus and a Max ASI without my shield"

Assuming he means DAM+6 against all enemies, then he's using armor and trinkets to get DAM+6, so he can get only ASI+2 from armor and trinkets, so he's got ASI+4 UVs on all of his swords. That's nice.

To add to what Demonicsothe said: There are four piercing shields: Aegis, Royal Jelly, Ironmight Plate, and Barbarous Thorn.

But really, if I were you, I'd keep BTS and switch in a CTR trinket, to beef up my CTR.

Jue, 07/05/2012 - 21:06

Traevelliath

Actually, if you get to the point of not using your shield to block, I would just switch it for the Swiftstrike Buckler, and then using trinkets for damage, CTR, or heart trinkets.

Or, go hybrid and use the trinkets for your secondary weapons. For example, I use a Penta-Heart Trinket and Elite Trueshot Module while wearing full Skolver, firing a Sent and AP like a madman, and slashing away with a Glacius and Acheron.

Jue, 07/05/2012 - 22:23

Theopholis

I still need my shield to block.

But you do make a good point @Traevelliath. I'll keep that in mind for the future.

I wear full Skolver, and have Very High ASI on my Flourish and WRH. Working on it for my Acheron. The CTR is okay, but I'm not using swords with great charges. I use the WRH's rarely, as I can usually do more damage with the combo than the charge, and the Flourish's only to pick off Trojans and the odd Alpha Wolver. The Acheron does have a great charge, but nothing I never find it's too slow.

It's looking like Owlite for Elemental, It seems to have higher defense than the Heater. And I can get the Crest of Almire cheaper than the Skelly, since I'm pretty sure I have nearly enough tokens for it's 4*.

Three specialized shields is definitely the right way to go, so would the Aegis, or Ironmight be a better bet? The Ironmight has higher normal, and stun resistance, but the Aegis has higher piercing.
Although it appears the Ironmight has the SAME piercing defense as the Barbarous Thorn Shield . . . which would make it a nearly pointless buy.

I'll save the piercing for last regardless . . . And probably do the shadow first since FSC will pretty much be funding the rest.

Or maybe I'll get tired of my WRH and get some CTR for my Divine Avenger :P But not anytime soon!

Jue, 07/05/2012 - 23:27

Derpules

Still don't understand why you wouldn't keep the BTS.

Full Skolver = VH sword damage, not Max. Why not use the BTS and save one trink slot for something else? There are more trinkets than just ASI and CTR (which IMO is worth having even on a Flourish). Throw on a heart trinket, or some damage or status resist.

Vie, 07/06/2012 - 01:00

Theopholis

BTS is a weak shield.

And only really good for it's bonus. If I don't NEED that bonus, I feel like a better shield would be more useful.

And I feel like a stronger shield is better than stronger armour defense or life (from trinkets) because having a good shield means my armour will be taking less hits :P

If there was a movement speed trinket, I would take that. I wanna run.

Vie, 07/06/2012 - 01:42

Derpules

I was unclear

I meant to address specifically the replacement pierce shield, where the performance difference is tiny. I agree that for the other types, the increase in shield strength is indeed worth it for people who can't dodge everything. I use a Grey Owlite and Dread Skelly myself. (Yes, CoA is better, but I got this before I had FSC access.)

Vie, 07/06/2012 - 05:52

Bopp

some plans

Plan A (what you already have, or similar to it):
Skolver Coat, Vog Cub Cap, BTS, damage trinket, damage trinket
resulting in ASI+6, DAM+8 (wasted), CTR+2

Plan B (what you seem to favor):
Skolver Coat, Vog Cub Cap, IPS, damage trinket, damage trinket
resulting in ASI+6, DAM+6, CTR+2, but better shield defense

Plan C (what I proposed in post #2):
Skolver Coat, Vog Cub Cap, BTS, damage trinket, CTR trinket
resulting in ASI+6, DAM+6, CTR+4

Theopholis, you probably know this, but a shield protects you only while it is activated (and unbroken). You should get a more defensive shield only if you find your shield breaking a lot. Even then, the IPS may or may not last many more hits than the BTS in your key situations -- I don't know. But I do know that the difference between CTR+2 and CTR+4 is noticeable, so I'd do that still.

Well, in any event you'll be fine. Cheers.

Vie, 07/06/2012 - 08:03

Demonicsothe

IPS does not have that much

IPS does not have that much better defence than a bts. At the very most, 1 more hit from a weak piercing attack. Bts is a very good piercing shield, even without the sword bonus.

Vie, 07/06/2012 - 08:05

#10

Derpules

Yep.

My point exactly.

I'd swap BTS for other damage types if more def is needed, but not for any other pierce shield.

Vie, 07/06/2012 - 12:15

#11

Theopholis

Ah, I see what you mean.

I would like to get shadow and elemental shields then, but may just use the BTS with a CTR trinket. It's not that I find my shield is always broken, but I do find I have to give up a few good swings once in a while because my shield is orange.

I can dodge most things, but every now and then you get stuck in a corner with a Trojan and you just NEED your shield to take a few hits while your party get's his back. Or you find yourself surrounded by Devilites, and need your shield to hold out for quite a while :P

Thanks for the advice!

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