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NO SHIELD: Is it possible?

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Sun, 07/29/2012 - 20:12
Soarel's picture
Soarel

Was just wondering:

can you survive the Arcade without a shield?

FSC/Danger Missions, obviously no. Arcade....we'll see.

Answers?

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 20:24
#1
Traevelliath's picture
Traevelliath

Yes

I've done IMF without a shield, and I know there are people who are better than me.

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 20:48
#2
Dukeplatypus's picture
Dukeplatypus
Obviously yes. I've FSC

Obviously yes. I've FSC dozens of times with swiftstrike, and sometimes I don't even shieldbump. Don't really need to if you have smart planning and stun vials (most underrated item in the game IMO). I'm not even that good, It's kinda on and off.

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 20:58
#3
Serell's picture
Serell
fsc obviously no?

Fsc is the easiest thing ever. I can do fsc without a shield. And with chaos.

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 21:21
#4
Magnicth's picture
Magnicth
Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?

@Serell: I wouldnt say FSC is the easiest thing ever,since snarby is,and the twins are a close second....but yes,it is quite easy.

Im sure you could go without a shield in many different situations,but Id have to say its close to impossible to go without a shield in C42.That place is worse than FSC in my oppinion...

~Magnicth the Dragon Mage

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 21:27
#5
Serell's picture
Serell
I know

Just an exxageration xp
And yeah I wouldn't even dare take a swiftly to C42 @_@

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 21:55
#6
Velcro's picture
Velcro
Tbh the one thing I would

Tbh the one thing I would miss more than anything is shield-cancelling attacks.

If you have no shield then you have to go through the full attack animation of whatever you do. AND THAT IS A PAIN.

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 23:29
#7
Zolota's picture
Zolota
Hm

Friends of mine have done FSC without a shield, I've one accidentally even done it myself once because I forgot to bring a shield (complicated story, don't ask)

Mon, 07/30/2012 - 04:13
#8
Aureate's picture
Aureate
Processing Thoughts of You Always

Personally I'd find the lack of shield annoying - I wouldn't be able to start charging without the attack, and I wouldn't be able to shield cancel. The lack of shield-bump ability would be a slightly less major issue, and in t1 and t2 I could probably do okay without the ability to block attacks. You'd definitely be fine in t3 Wolver Dens with a Dark Briar Barrage, though. I've tried that much.

Mon, 07/30/2012 - 08:14
#9
Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances

Shivermist spam. Easy mode activated xD.

Mon, 07/30/2012 - 08:17
#10
Zolota's picture
Zolota
@Little-Juances

Polaris

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 05:35
#11
Passpartough
I am pretty sure you can even

I am pretty sure you can even find some videos on youtube about it. jocurile.us barbie jocuri 3d

Mon, 07/30/2012 - 10:03
#12
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Trying

You can do any level without a shield.

Mon, 07/30/2012 - 19:14
#13
Fiery-Diskgun's picture
Fiery-Diskgun
Newbies

Im prety sure newbs cant go without a shield while the snarbolax fight....

Mon, 07/30/2012 - 19:20
#14
Trying's picture
Trying

Newbies can die fighting snarbolax with any gear including full 5* gear.

Mon, 07/30/2012 - 19:22
#15
Dark-Flare's picture
Dark-Flare
/agree Aureate

If you want "no shield" at least get a swiftstrike. It's cheap, and actually useful.

Mon, 07/30/2012 - 19:24
#16
Fallconn's picture
Fallconn
FALCON PUNCH!

I beat snarbolax in full proto....solo no deaths, Problemo?

Mon, 07/30/2012 - 19:26
#17
Irishespeon's picture
Irishespeon
My bud the other day

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/576709682204120030/E42CFD13C66C81CE895...

Mon, 07/30/2012 - 19:46
#18
Dukeplatypus's picture
Dukeplatypus
@Fallconn

I beat Snarby my very first time while solo, in proto, no deaths, and only using proto gun. Get on my level, son.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 02:10
#19
Chrishin's picture
Chrishin
To be honest, I rarely use a

To be honest, I rarely use a shield other than the Swiftstrike Buckler these days. Unless I'm doing Crimson Hammer, Legion of Almire, or C42, I only use Swiftstrike. It's easy to dodge monsters once you learn how they attack. So, not using a shield is not only possible, but preferred in my opinion.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 03:18
#20
Raisinfist's picture
Raisinfist
Swifty?

The Swifty can take, in the mission version's RJP 1st floor, 1 lumber hit head-on. Then you die slowly and painfully.
...
Never bothered me. I've carried entire parties through the RJP whilst using a Swifty. How? I can dodge like a boss (Chrishin got there before me).

It is possible to go shieldless in Snarby and take no damage, because even the Snarby has attack patterns.

In conclusion: If you can do bosses with little/no shield, then Yes, it is possible.

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 06:45
#21
Tenkii's picture
Tenkii
the challenge

The big challenge with using no shield is that you can't shield-cancel attacks. It's terribly noticeable if you use heavy swords or use switch techniques.

I pulled C42 with swiftstrike fairly easily, but that's using guns. There's no way I could have done nearly as well if I didn't have a shield at all. It's incomparable.

Though, as someone who plays Recon almost religiously in Lockdown, guns are a lot more mobile/viable for safety when shield breaks (exactly the same as not having a shield). Shield cancelling doesn't really do much for them other than let you move earlier, since shooting too often will force you to reload anyway.

If you know how to switch-shoot, you can get a sliiiightly faster-than-normal fire rate by just shooting and swapping weapons, but nothing nearly as fast as if you did have a shield.

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