Spiral Knights - Fixing KoA, by abusing the game

Fixing KoA, by abusing the game

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Tue, 08/14/2012 - 08:08

Oceanprince

WARNING! THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR. YOU MAY GET BANNED FOR DOING THIS! It is still a "solution" though.

Since KoA is such big paying mission that everyone does, I figured, let's stop players from doing that all the time. How? Simple. Start a party for KoA, then after everyone has gone down to the first area, kick everyone from your party. They ALL go solo. Repeat as often you can.

There is a problem though, players who actually need to complete this mission, are unable to. Sorry, but fixing the economy seems to be priority #1 around here.

WARNING! THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR. YOU MAY GET BANNED FOR DOING THIS!

Tue, 08/14/2012 - 08:14

Glacies

Better idea: Remove Mission

Better idea: Remove Mission GUI

Tue, 08/14/2012 - 08:15

Goofio

How will that fix the

How will that fix the economy? FSC is easy to solo.

Tue, 08/14/2012 - 08:16

Pokenuevo

This is not the way to fix the economy. Besides, if they get kicked, they'll just go to haven and ask around again (or ask a friend). They'll eventually get another ride to Vana, but next time they won't be abandoned. If people seriously do this, which I highly doubt, I hope they'd get punished. It's a waste of time and effort. The economy will be fixed when new additions are added to the game, or even if the shard bombs get the necessary boost.

Tue, 08/14/2012 - 08:19

Juances

Nah, they'll get smart and go solo on their own at mission lobby.

Then we'll see an army of noobs at d24 dying one by one.

Tue, 08/14/2012 - 09:38

Softhead

OR.

Arcade runs.

My first FSC run was an arcade version....

I usuall get invites by friends.

Just remove KoA and Boss missions if you're so anal about it.

Tue, 08/14/2012 - 10:15

Deltikon

Or just make it available only once and that's it.

That's all you need to make things to almost go back to normal in terms of the arcade gates. Do this with all boss missions and you'll see more people on them. Of course, people who already did it can be invited by someone who has not.

Tue, 08/14/2012 - 10:33

Rangerwillx

Make boss missions available a mere one time = success

Tue, 08/14/2012 - 11:00

Glacies

Except that's kinda

Except that's kinda exploitable. You could easily leave after fighting the boss by pressing ESC -> Return to Haven. It'll only fix those who have never finished that mission.

Tue, 08/14/2012 - 14:15

Byas

Kicking people on FSC is not

Kicking people on FSC is not fixing the economy, that's is just being a [cog].

Tue, 08/14/2012 - 11:13

#10

Dragoonten

OR..

prevent anyone that is not a vangaurd from joining someone in KoA.

Tue, 08/14/2012 - 11:23

#11

Softhead

@Dragoonten

Then by that logic, the same should had been done with lower level tier players going into T3.

Tue, 08/14/2012 - 11:39

#12

Yanos-Aldrin

heheh

I'm with Byas on this one.

Running FSC multiple times for the sake of getting the most crowns out of the time spent playing the game isn't abusing the game at all, it's simply good economic policy.

Lets not discount the fact that anyone eligible to start the KoA mission had to get there by playing through ALL of the other missions, or that anyone at that level of skill & arsenal certainly earned the right to be there as they all started at the same humble beginings when they first installed this game, and that FSC is not without its dangers; it is the bottom half of tier 3 afterall.

Tue, 08/14/2012 - 12:01

#13

Deltikon

@Glacies

Yes, iwhich it would be a vast majority of the players who grind 24/7 on it. Or if that fails, make the coin dropping rate even lower. About the same as the danger missions.

Tue, 08/14/2012 - 12:09

#14

Gwenyvier

@Oceanprince

"Since KoA is such big paying mission that everyone does, I figured, let's stop players from doing that all the time. How? Simple. Start a party for KoA, then after everyone has gone down to the first area, kick everyone from your party. They ALL go solo. Repeat as often you can."

Hahahaha, you think that would actually work? Anybody that does FSC regularly can easily solo the first floor of it. Hell, I know people that can do it without getting hit at all. After they hit D25, which is where the good payouts start actually (and is also easily soloable), they can invite whoever they want. No, all this will do is have people label you as a noob and have you start ending up on a lot of people's ignore lists. At the very most you'll make a few people waste 10 ME to restart... after making sure YOU are not the party leader.

~Gwen

Tue, 08/14/2012 - 14:49

#15

Xylka-Mkii

What everyone said above

What everyone said above me.

And just to back up their arguements, I go through FSC ONLY with full proto (yes shield too) and only bring my average 5* weapons. All solo

And I still get through with a maximum of 2 deaths if I don't try my best (which is usually what I do).

If people can go through it in proto without any effort, then how is making people solo bad?

Worst case scenario is basically they just start over and in a week finish it with some friends. So basically kicking them from the party accomplishes nothing but wasting your own time and energy.

Looks like someone yet again forgot to take time to look over their idea before posting.

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 18:02

#16

The-Dragon-Child

...

Meh... I don't really like people call it "KoA" since I am very used to the nick "FSC". When I first found that out, I had to search up what it meant xD. Though I don't really mind anymore about the economy in SK since I have other games to play too. I noticed some people almost litteraly live this game -__- (Playing 24/7)

Well getting too much people into FSC isn't good but they will eventually have access to it. So it's only post-poning their access but they will still have access to it. Best fix is just to make it only playable once a day or something. (boss missions) Since arcade really is getting neglected now.

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 18:05

#17

Rangerwillxx-Xx

The way to fix it is by having more mature players play it, ones that aren't so silly to make such a topic.

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 18:42

#18

The-Dragon-Child

@Rangerwillxx-Xx

True story... but this game is more focused on the young audience though xD...

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 18:44

#19

Rangerwillxx-Xx

That is true, but there are young people that are mature and older people who are not.

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 18:50

#20

The-Dragon-Child

Quite true also...

... Well, just because I behave quite polite and mature; I almost never kick someone just because I don't like to be rude and I always give people a chance to prove themselves ._.

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 21:01

#21

President-Trump

KoA?

plz enlighten me with the meaning of it (what does the characters KoA stand for?)

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 21:07

#22

Rangerwillxx-Xx

King of Ashes, the mission name.

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 21:26

#23

President-Trump

>.>

ok... I usually say fsc, i thought it was some special term that is associated with gamestyle...
IMANOOB XD

Thats not gonna fix the economy at all insteat it makes you look like an a**hole.
People can solo entire FSC easily, as if they care getting kicked.

Wed, 08/15/2012 - 22:57

#24

Mzculet

we can invite

other people :3

And that idea is rude........and people will hate the party leader (PROBABLY)

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 09:36

#25

Nordlead

What you are really

What you are really suggesting is that other people shouldn't be able to buy CE while YOU should (assuming you would allow yourself to continue running FSC).

How does that fix the game/economy?

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 10:00

#26

Rangerwillxx-Xx

People need to stop bumping this monstrosity of a thread.

Thu, 08/16/2012 - 10:55

#27

Aureate

Processing Thoughts of You Always

Alternatively, we could all be douchebags who kick everyone without a badge next to their name.

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Fixing KoA, by abusing the game