Spiral Knights - Yet Another... Lag, Skippy Game play, Client, issue

Yet Another... Lag, Skippy Game play, Client, issue

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Mon, 09/03/2012 - 10:02

Mad-Hatter-Returns

I know everyone thinks that this thread is most likely going to consist of some poorly educated kid ranting on about how crappy this game is, and i know this subject gets thrown around on here all the time..... BUT! im a massive fan of this game and hope it grows to be more succesfull it just needs some tweaking

I have been a SK player for quite some time and its only been recent to which i have noticed that the game has become almost unplayable.
if it isn't sudden disconnects, its not being able to log on, taking ages to go to haven and switch between lvls etc. etc.
OHH and the most annoying the walking around and suddenly teleporting and Skippy walking.

Now i know everyone will say its a problem at my end of the stick but NO.
I am experienced enough to be able to solve connection issues and crashes in many games when its at my end but no matter what i do these days i cant get this game to run properly.

I can play all today's demanding games on my new PC build yet SK runs like utter trash ive upgraded drivers , opened ports , custom installed 64bit java into the SK directory in steam (which i noticed a massive increase in loading times )

I have a great connection to the server, SO ive come to the conclusion that with recent updates to SK there have been compatibility issues with some PC's (maybe updating steams version of SKs java might be a start a 64bit version would also be a nice addition) but hey what do i know :P

All i know is my System specs and internet connection are overkill for a game like this so there's something wrong some where and it needs to be dealt with as from general conversation with players in haven i know im not the only one experiencing issues of this kind a have a friend that plays the game locally who is having the exact problem too so i can be sure its not a problem with my setup ( With six cores, 8gigs of ram and a GTX670 you would hope not anyway) i have tried it on other pcs in my house just too be sure same issue.....

And yes ive done everything on all of the forums support pages and wiki on connection and game issues

So im asking please can everyone in agreement with this please post and maybe just maybe someone will confront this issue from the SK team because at the end of the day i just wanna enjoy playing the game isn't that what game devs want in order to make some dough from its customers ?

because back when i first started playing this game it played smoothly that's when i shelled out all of my hard earned but at the moment i wouldn't spend a single penny

(EDIT)
Just to clear things up im using a fresh install with the original java sk comes with
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logging on now to find i cannot connect to server FUN TIMES xD

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 10:51

Trying

64 bit Java does not make SK run better. In fact it makes it worse.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 11:22

Mad-Hatter-Returns

Maybe for you everyone has

Maybe for you everyone has there own opinion but thanks for the response, :P

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 11:28

Trying

That wasn't an opinion that was a fact.

Mon, 09/03/2012 - 11:44

Mad-Hatter-Returns

i used to run the game in 64

i used to run the game in 64 bit all the time my frame rate used to be higher and it reduced loading times from the login screen and utilized more ram you cant base your own opinion to be fact its worked well for me in the past maybe not so well for you. please try and be help full and not biased im not looking for a argument on the subject of java just trying to resolve an issue so i can enjoy playing SK...

Tue, 09/04/2012 - 21:48

Ark-The-Monsta

I have the EXACT same problem

I have the EXACT same problem as you. The game is totally unplayable for me, just how unplayable you might ask?

Well you could say that even if I'm lucky to log on and stay connected for more than 10 seconds, doing something as simple as going to the Auction House is impossible. I go to Haven, and all that happens is I just sit in one spot, can't move, can't turn and everyone else walks off the map INB4 "You have been disconnected from the server." screen, and I'm sick of it. 2 weeks ago I had a constant 4 bar connection to the US server, now I can't even check out featured auctions. And going on the EU server isn't any better.

And nobody give me "o ur connecton sux get betr interwebz" because it's NOT my internet, trust me.

I have also tried countless things to fix the problem just like you have, and yet I still lag like I'm on a 1990's 14k connection.

I am so close to just giving up on this game until someone releases some sort of server emulator, because apparently SK is extremely picky when it comes to the way it handles network packets, and anyone without a flawless top of the line PC and/or super low-latency fully dedicated fibre optic internet connection can't play.

Sun, 09/09/2012 - 23:45

Netknight

Similar

I've been having similar difficulties recently.

Say about... 3 weeks ago, I started to disconnect seemingly randomly. Then that seemed to stop the next day, but I started to get debilitating skips and reaction delay. Then it switched back. Then again to skips, then again to disconnection.

It's always one or the other, never both. And I have a 3 bar connection the entire time.

While I don't have computer specs far above the game requirements, I've never had these problems until recently. And after extensive checking I can't find anything I might have messed with to cause this.

I'm going to have to agree with OP on this, I think it's on the SK server's side.

Thu, 09/13/2012 - 19:13

Helios

Game Master

Greetings,

Since none of you specified this in your post, how many have added exceptions for Spiral Knights in your firewall/security programs? Recently it appears that more security suites have been interfering with playability. The port exceptions can be found on the Wiki and the executable files you want to add are usually at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\spiral knights\java_vm\bin\.

As for degrading loading times over multiple patches, sometimes all it takes is a disk defrag to get things moving again.

Sat, 09/15/2012 - 15:19

Geekfox

Those that are having the lagging and skipping issue recently, are you on USA or Europe server?

I'm on Europe server and I'm experiencing this sporadic lag for the past few days.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 01:42

Ark-The-Monsta

Geekfox I get it no matter

Geekfox I get it no matter which server I'm on.

@Helios I have the correct ports forwarded and firewall exceptions for all inbound/outbound connections as well as the TCP/UDP protocols Java and SK use. But sometimes I still get disconnected shortly after logging on, not to mention latency that is probably 10k+ ms. I just don't see how it could be my internet connection though since SK is the only game I have this problem with. All my security/antivirus programs have Java/SK exceptions for them as well so it doesn't interfere with the connections.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 13:48

#10

The-Dragon-Child

I love this thread, just what I needed!

I'm having the exact same issue. I live on the west side of EU and I should get good connection but I keep getting skipping issues and rubberbanding (On EU server). It's becoming extremely unplayable for me. I was always a very polite guy but now I'm starting to swear more and more FROM THIS FREAKING GAME D:<. I'm still getting these freaking annoying rubberbanding, teleporting and giant lagspikes that I am on the verge of quitting this game. My Gaming rig is an Intel 2600k, 8GB of ram, GTX570 videocard and a 1 TB harddrive which was defragmented over 9000 times.

It's becoming worse after the last updates. It's the worst at the mission "Heart of Ice" (Which became totally unplayable for me). It's even totally impossible when I'm playing on US servers. Each mission, which I used to help people with on that server, now decides to troll me with massive lag which I normally didn't get (Only latency and small stutter but now giant spikes, teleporting, all those stuff).

I am getting these problems everytime now. The only thing that I decided to do is slack off in haven because I found myself becoming unreliable as support for my friends. And another thing: I study IT and programming so I know a lot about computers and how to fix stuff but this game is being extremely stubborn to me. (Battlefield 3, Crysis 2 and those sort of games are being ran flawless without a single bit of lag on MAX SETTINGS >:( edit: And I am running this game on lowest settings and I still get all those problems >:/ ..... >w<

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 19:53

#11

Blakknite

Wireless.....

Are you guys all using wireless connections? I had the same sort of lag as well, but I have access to a wired interface. Needless to say, no lag. I do have other computers in the house that are wireless and they too have lag issues. I am guessing that SK doesnt play nice with wireless networks and there are latency issues. I might have to test this to be sure. I'll set up a few labs too see what i can come up with.

Tue, 09/18/2012 - 20:38

#12

Geekfox

I can tell you that Spiral Knights used to play nice with wireless connection, if you think that's the issue. I set my laptop close to one of the Wireless Access Point in my campus. Unfortunately, my campus wireless internet is my only choice for an internet service provider, but I haven't had any lag or connection troubles with Spiral Knights before September 14 or prior.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 08:30

#13

The-Dragon-Child

Nope

Using wired. Still getting this annoying lag from time to time. It's so freaking annoying XD

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 14:15

#14

Dipsy-Diamond

Same

I have the exact same issues. When I first started playing I had the typical "Mac issues". Gradually they issues seemed to go away. Then, remember when they did that update where everyone was lagging so badly we couldn't walk 3 steps? After they cleared up the lag issue my Mac issues came back with a vengeance! My keyboard stops responding for no apparent reason so I have to click somewhere on the screen with the mouse to make them work again, keys get stuck and I'll go walking into fire, I disconnect with 4 bar connection and lag spikes of death are a frequent problem. Right now (as with the last patch) each time I log in and try to enter the ready room I'm kicked from the server. It's extremely frustrating, I love this game.

Wed, 09/19/2012 - 17:20

#15

Ark-The-Monsta

I'm on wired and I still get

I'm on wired and I still get lag/disconnections. Wireless isn't any better either. I don't what I'm going to do now because I love SK so much and USED to play it all the time but the lag and disconnecting all the time has made it unplayable to the point where logging on just to chat with friends/guildies isn't possible anymore. Any help I try to get just results in "lol your internet sux its your fault you dont know anything" and I'm getting sick of hearing that because if it really WAS my internet, then how come when I ragequit SK from being kicked for no reason 5 seconds after logging on, I can go play any other MMO without problems? Like seriously the next person to tell me my internet sucks just because I can't play SK is gonna get raged at. So what do I need to play SK? The minimum requirements plus a place of residence in the State of Virginia or wherever the EU server is with a 1 GB/s connection just to be able to stay connected for more than 5 seconds or be able to move?

Mon, 10/01/2012 - 00:35

#16

Ranzoh

Man, I thought I was the only

Man, I thought I was the only one with this issue, I thought it was a PC issue, but the keyboard locking or being on autopilot is interferring with how we would actually play. I was about to finish Ghost Machine solo with no revives yet and 20 mist left on the last floor, and lost some health because 2 bars kept increasing in frequency near the end, and then all of a sudden my character goes on pilot mode and moves my knight automatically into a shock pad and kills me. So I used my only revive and I'm about to finish the boss, but lo and behold the visual info lagged and I got hit out of 6 health or so and died. I hate it when I get things that make you in the losing outcome of the game but of no fault of your own. Why does OOO think we should adjust to this and make us pay for nothing we did?

Tue, 10/02/2012 - 23:27

#17

Soulrazer

I have problems with my

I have problems with my mouse, which is kinda weird.... Don't know if it has anything to do with this? Sometimes I can't attack using my mouse button, but I can with my keyboard. Same with my trackpad... So trust me, it's NOT my mouse's problem.

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 05:43

#18

Mitzhawk

Kinda same problem

I leave in europe and I have kinda same probblems .My internet speed is something like 90~100 mb/s and sometimes(I had 1 period when I had it alot..almost every log in)when I log in I get disconected .Not to mention the LD probblems: all the ppl hit me from a very big distance(once the guy was off my screen and managed to hit me) and the alchemizer bullets(I think this is becose of bullet's code) ,if I hit with a alchemizer a guy and hes walcking in other direction than going straight the bullet the bullet seems to see the collision (it bounce) but the player dosent get any damage O_o.

Thu, 10/04/2012 - 11:33

#19

Canine-Vladmir

this is a needed bump.

was gonna make my own thread regarding this but i can see a few already beat me to it.
My non Steam Spiral Knights is haywire. im laggy for n reason whatsoever. Its not my specs or connection, i already played other multi games with higher graphics (BF3, TF2, some unity games) and my fps and ping was so low. Yet after the patch, SK is just trolling with me.
now prior to this, i did have lag issues but it was resolved with the help from you guys but its back!

Fri, 10/05/2012 - 03:08

#20

Bugtester

U so silly

I thought everyone knew that OOO recently switched from running SK on servers to run it on toasters? It's cheaper and now your graphics should be really crisp.

Needless to say, that I also have gotten my fair share of this, despite having 4 bars like, all the time.

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