hey guys. im relatively new to the game and i've set my eyes on this build:
Skolver cap
snarbolax coat
grey owlite shield
and so i was wondering what you guys think of this. is it good? bad? if its bad, can i get an armor set you would recommend? thanks for your time :3
i was thinking maybe these weapons?
brandish line
divine avenger
snarble barb
autogun line
antigua
Two things, though:
1) Are you aware that you need to do a Shadow Lair to craft Snarby helm/armour? SLs are quite tough.
2) Why Skolver instead of Vog? Your first 5*s should be geared towards end-game content--in particular, FSC. Skolver won't help you there.
You'd want skolver only if you are a PvE'r. I would recommend getting a Vog cap first for FSC runs. Also, I don't recommend getting snarby the first time because you need to do a shadow lair, which will be difficult if you don't have full 5 star, or if you aren't a veteran.
If you want an armor set with all round defence, I'd recommend getting a Divine Veil, Skolver Coat, and a Grey Owlite shield. If you do get that, it also looks pretty sexy!
Note, I am assuming you are a swordsman from the armor you want.
The others here are giving you good advice, although I feel that they underestimate the value of the damage bonus that comes on Skolver. You might find my detailed sword guide useful.
hmm... you guys have a point. i dont think i'll pvp that much at all, but i do see myself doing boss runs. would this be better then?
vog cub cap
vog cub coat
grey owlite shield
regarding the snarble barb, cant i just do regular snarby runs instead of SL? are there materials only available in SL?
egarding the snarble barb, cant i just do regular snarby runs instead of SL? are there materials only available in SL?
The shield, sword, and bomb come from Frumious Fangs, traded in at Brinks. So you just do regular runs.
The armor suit and helm can be crafted only in the Shadow Lairs. So they require shadow runs.
ohh... thanks Bopp, for clearing that up :3
I would recommend using the Barbarous thorn shield instead if the Grey Owlite though it won't be so helpful in FSC the Vog Cub will make up for it. I would also switch out the DA for the GF because the brandish line swords can make up for the elemental damage. You should also get a Royal Jelly Band And a Dread Skelly Charm to round out your defenses.
I would also switch out the DA for the GF because the brandish line swords can make up for the elemental damage.
But the Brandish-line swords can also make up for shadow damage...
@lezlynblade: lolwat
The amount of defence provided by token trinkets is absolutely pitiful.
If we are going to take trinkets into account, then the best ones to use would be either health or damage/asi, depending on current armour.
There is also the Acheron, which deals shadow damage and has an excellent charge, whereas GF has good damage/swings on a slow sword, but an absolutely piss-poor charge that takes about twice as long as its companion, the DA (to say nothing of self-curse).
@Qseawd: That loadout looks pretty solid, although you may wish to get some BTS too in order to get a Max! Damage bonus.
Dude ur kidding rite? The Archeron does not have half the respect as the GF! I will give u that the token trinkets suck but no one has the time for charge when in the heat of battle its about shield and the strike with elite quick strike it will out preform Archeron by tenth fold charge or not. And if you just want to bother with it get elite sword focus on top of that.
In case this is not a troll: You have multiple misconceptions. One often has time to charge in battle, and Brandish users often do charge. In regular attacks, Acheron has better single-monster DPS than Gran Faust. ASI and CTR trinkets certainly help GF, but they also help Acheron, so I don't understand that part of your argument.
I have used each of these swords for many months, and I still use both occasionally, but I generally prefer Acheron. See the "Shadow Swords" section of my sword guide linked above.
Hmhmhm, one makes mistakes while charging. u are forgetting this knight is inexperienced he does not have the sword skill. He doesn't know the advances techniques and likely never will, such is the way with most of these newer knights I've come across. There is no challenge in this and as inexperienced as u are making him sound he might as well go with the levi.
Srsly. It's not an "advanced technique"; on the contrary, it's a noob's best friend.
And Levi is generally much worse than the appropriate 5* Brandish.
There is no challenge in this...
I don't understand. In what is there no challenge? And why? And do you consider that to be bad or good?
...and as inexperienced as u are making him sound...
How am I making him sound inexperienced? Why are you so pessimistic about this knight's future? You assume that he's terrible at kiting and charging. Even if that's true --- I have no idea --- he'll learn.
...he might as well go with the levi.
I strongly disagree. It is never too early to plan for the 5-star items that you truly want. Someone who is into swords, and plays with two or three swords at once, has no use for Leviathan Blade. (The charge is great, but you will eventually replace Levi with Fang of Vog anyway.)
Edit: Agree with Derpules.
@Les: ...congratulations, you just lost all my respect. Again.
The sword is Acheron. Not Archeron.
Gran Faust is a sword for large crowds, with a lot of knockback and interrupt. It looks badass, but is slower than the Acheron and its charge is much less useable unless you're packing max CTR and double max (or greater) curse resist.
Acheron has a pure-damage charge which is safer and much faster, although no status. It also has a smaller hitbox, but this is compensated for due to the sword being much faster, and its charge covers a large area which more than makes up for the size of the standard attack.
Gran Faust users will quite definitely not be able to charge in the heat of battle. An Acheron user can, though.
Why the hell would Acheron not have respect? Unless by 'respect' you mean 'commonly used in t3 LD'.
Also, I would say that Acheron requires less skill to use than the Gran Faust. You can get by just spamming the charge attack on pretty much anything, that's not exactly advanced. A Gran Faust user is going to have to shield cancel quite often rather than pulling off full combos, unless they want a faceful of attack.
A Brandish line sword would be much easier for a new player to use safely than a Levi. They don't need to even get into melee range to use the charge on an enemy.
Also, nobody actually said the OP was inexperienced, except you.
@Bopp: Duly noted. :B
@OP: For boss runs, you may also wish to get a set of Skolver if you plan on doing Jelly runs very frequently. It's not vital, though.
Aureate, would you mind editing your post to make it clear that you're responding to Lezlyblaze (not me)?
I think we're being trolled, so I'm going to stop. Cheers.
With all due respect Lezly, your advice really isn't newb friendly. People like Bopp have been giving advice for a year now, so they know the ins and outs of weapon/armor efficiency.
thanks for all the feedback guys! i know im not that experienced yet and all these 5* star items are way ahead of me, but at least i'll be prepared in the future right? so yeah thanks again... i look forward to seeing you guys in game if i can xD
Depends on the weapons you want. If want to look cooler, get full Snarby, they both have damage bonus anyway.