All items must be 3***
Lets Create the worst Tier 3 load out.
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 22:06
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 03:41
#2
Sure
Scintillating Sun Shards
Deadly Shard Bombs
Barbarous Thorn Shield
Azure Guardian Helm
Azure Guardian Armour
I was initially going to put full skolver as the armour, but then I realized that full skolver would still be better than azure guardian even if you don't use swords due to the freeze resistance. Azure, on the other hand, doesn't even have that.
Note that the sword bonus from the shield is wasted on the bombs. If 3* is allowed put a SwiftStrike Buckler there for even more waste. If the loadout for some reason must have 4 weapons, add Deadly Dark Matter Bomb and Deadly Splinter Bomb to the loadout. If we also want trinkets, use two of the 5* catnip thingies.
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 09:36
#3
Darkbrady, its a star.
Darkbrady, its a star.
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 09:41
#4
Worst T3 loadout?
It has to be:
Volatile Catalyzer
4* Rigadoon
Heavy Demo helm
Vitasuit DX
Sinister Skelly Shield.
In a slime level.
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 11:31
#5
Aye, I'm aware it's a star.
Aye, I'm aware it's a star. But it says 3*, which is by no means a T3 worthy loadout. It also says 3[three stars] which doesn't exist.
And no, the worst 5* set would be mad bomber with swords or guns. Probably iron slug and FoV.
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 13:36
#6
Winmillion (or Callahan, if 4* ending items are not allowed)
Iron slug
Dragon Scale Shield
Ancient Plate Helm (or maybe volcanic/ironmight plate)
Ancient Plate Armor (or maybe volcanic/ironmight plate)
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 13:41
#7
Nah! The tank sets are still
Nah! The tank sets are still useful in the sense that they have ridiculously high normal defence and/or high hp bonuses. Mad bomber produces far less tangible defence and heavy status.negs.
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:05
#8
The tank sets fail though because the defense isn't that noticable, and they nerf your ASI by quite a bit... you get hit a lot in them, and they're generally awful to use. The weapons specified all rely almost entirely on ASI, and not having ASI will mean getting hit quite often.
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 14:21
#9
ASI doesn't have that much of
ASI doesn't have that much of an effect, especially since you could easily use naturally slow weapons or charge-based weapons (or bombs). The defence bonuses aren't hugely noticeable, but they are certainly there. Ancient has a huge HP bonus and Ironmight has no MSI redux (topped by large pierce def). I've used the sets running around teh CW and in pvp and they're not UP at all. They're just fairly underwhelming compared to sets that rocket ASI/damage out the window.
A "worst set" would have to include neg.status, and the chaos set gives universal ASI which was designed to counter the negatives. Mad bombers counter was specifically for bombs, so using a sword with mad bomber would be the ultimate yeildless sacrifice. The next step would be to use a sword that self-inflicts, and since FoV is the slowest med-speed sword that can self-inflict strong fire (which, with mad bomber, would pretty much just kill you) then it forces yuo to use the FoVs incredibly unimpressive regular attacks and denies you teh charge attack (which is the point of using FoV). Even with the tank sets, FoV would still be usable (treat it as a three-swing troika that sets fire) and you'd be free to use the charge without fear.
As a second weapon, I could only think of Iron Slug, as virtually any other sword/gun would be at least acceptable to use.
You're right though, totally forgot abut the shield. Dragonscale would probably be the one to choose (except in C42...Dragonscale is a total BEAST in that map, srsly WOW) My only other suggestion would be maybe Omega, as it's been shown that its defence isn't as high as it states, and has no resistances or spec.types to speak of.
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 18:39
#10
I know the worst one
Mighty Colbalt Armor
Mighty Cobalt Helm
Mighty Defender
3* Calibur
Super blaster
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 18:50
#11
@benightz
Blaster and caliber are pretty decent, and I think the OP is talking T3?
My T3 bad loadout:
Azure helm
Azure armor
Omega shell
SSS
Iron slug
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 19:09
#12
ASI doesn't have that much of
ASI doesn't have that much of an effect, especially since you could easily use naturally slow weapons or charge-based weapons (or bombs). The defence bonuses aren't hugely noticeable, but they are certainly there. Ancient has a huge HP bonus and Ironmight has no MSI redux (topped by large pierce def). I've used the sets running around teh CW and in pvp and they're not UP at all. They're just fairly underwhelming compared to sets that rocket ASI/damage out the window.
I think negative ASI is faaar more noticeable on the slower weapons :x
Bombs and maybe brandish charges can probably get away with low ASI though.
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 19:14
#13
All loadouts must be 3****?
I thought you mean 3* gear.
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 19:20
#14
I'd much rather be able to dodge than have higher consequences for failure to do so. And chaos gives damage+CTR, but no ASI.
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 19:31
#15
My bad about chaos; has been
My bad about chaos; has been a long time since I used it. My point was simply that it has universal bonuses, so no matter what weapon choice you go with it'll be boosted, whereas a specific weapon bonus set can be nullified by merely using other weapons.
And fair enough, but in my experience a slow tanky set is still safer than taking on a lot of risk for no reward, but then again I actually use tank sets in both pve and pvp, and never see any major downside. *shrug*
Sat, 10/06/2012 - 13:22
#16
.
heavy plate mail
heavy plate helm
stone tortoise
khorovod
jalovec
faust
avenger
what makes it a bad loadout is not the armor set, but the stone tortoise. now replace it with a swiftstrike buckler.
also, raise your hand if you got the jalovec*.
*: not saying jalovec is bad.
Sat, 10/06/2012 - 13:31
#17
I could run FSC with that
I could run FSC with that loadout. Hardly what I'd call "bad", regardless of shield.
5*...do w get Volcanic Plate or Ironmight?
Mon, 10/08/2012 - 21:21
#18
Almarian crusader armor with
Almarian crusader armor with FoV would suck, toss in a winmillion and a shard bomb and you will suck.
Btw volatile catalyzer is a great weapon against slimes. They are easy to place charges on and group for a big explosion.
Wed, 10/10/2012 - 12:33
#19
4*- heavy plate helm &
4*- heavy plate helm & Vitasuit deluxe with a winmillion and a volatile catalyzer. In a schock construct theme. with a stone tortoise.
5*- Full ancient plate mail with triglav/sudaruska, iron slug, the omega shell. mostly in a fiend stratum, or construct again
Thu, 10/11/2012 - 17:03
#20
I feel so sucky...
By the end of this week, my loadout will be:
Chaos set (With a low fire resistance on the helmet)
Swiftstrike/APS (Because all other shields save for Stone Tortoise suck.)
Winmillion/Triglav (ASI low on Triglave)
Biohazzard/Blight Needle.
I love my sucky weapons and how awesome they are.
Fri, 10/12/2012 - 01:53
#21
Processing Thoughts of You Always
fff
Don't you even dare diss my Blight Needle.
Besides, Swiftstrike is awesome, and Biohazard is fun, if somewhat impractical. Triglav is actually pretty useful, too. The issue is that other weapons are overpowered instead... *cough*BRANDISH*cough* Chaos is good for an all-rounder set for people who are indecisive as to what weapons to use.
I mourn for Winmillion.
Fri, 10/12/2012 - 09:46
#22
Chaos Hood
Valkyrie Armor
Iron Slug
Heater Shield
Fearless Rigadoon
Fri, 10/12/2012 - 12:57
#23
Meh, that's akin to saying
Meh, that's akin to saying "just put on Azure armour". It's "bad" but still completely usable; any T3 player could run with that set. You wanna think less "bad armour" and more "suicide setup"! :D
Sat, 10/13/2012 - 03:57
#24
Here goes nothing...
Chaos Cowl
Iron Slug
Sudaruska
Ancient Plate Armor
Ancient Plate Shield (do I even have to include shield, I believe they are irrelevant in LD)
Sat, 10/13/2012 - 02:11
#25
How does one wear Chaos Cowl and Ancient Plate Helm at the same time?
Sat, 10/13/2012 - 02:42
#26
Well...
They could have two heads.
Sat, 10/13/2012 - 03:56
#27
lol
Oops sorry take out the Ancient Plate Helm
Sat, 10/13/2012 - 12:01
#28
This thread isn't necessarily
This thread isn't necessarily about LD, just for any purpose.
But hey, that's not a awful set. Bonus hp, lots of def, bonuses to both sword and gun...
Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:33
#29
You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!
Actually....the worst thing is something I already have tried: any armor that doesn't buff weapons, only elmental weapons, and a gremlin arena. Yes I've done that. I never finished. Two healers just went Heal heal heal heal heal heal and the single thwacker when whack whack whack whack. Hammers don't do justice in some cases. >.<
Thu, 10/18/2012 - 11:45
#30
No one thought of using Mad Bomber without using bombs...?
Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:14
#31
@Draycos:
http://forums.spira
Thu, 10/18/2012 - 12:43
#32
Rather than Azure, I'd choose Heavenly Iron, with the shadow sun shards. Wasted bonuses, almost useless curse resist and weakness to shock.
Thu, 10/18/2012 - 14:24
#33
Remember what I said the
Remember what I said the other day about how I shouldn't post when I'm half asleep?
...yeahhh... This is getting embarrassing.
/sorry
Wed, 10/24/2012 - 06:10
#34
Zip zero nil
Has anyone thought about using no weapons? It's possible.
Thu, 10/25/2012 - 07:18
#35
Worst 5* loadout
MB set with FoV and Iron Slug is the worst, imo. Almirian gives dmg bonus med to FoV (VH to fiends), so, Mad Bomber win. Omega Shell for 5* worst shield. No status, wep buffs or specialized defences.
Trinkets allowed? So, two Sword Focus Modules =]
Thu, 10/25/2012 - 08:24
#36
Two bomb mods would be worse in that load out since they don't help you. At least with high CTR you have more opportunities to nuke everything before you die from fire...
Tier3 loadout with 3***?
Wanna clarify?