Spiral Knights - Make more achievements

Make more achievements

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Sun, 10/14/2012 - 08:21

Derpledorf

there aren't very many achievements in this game, and the ones we do have are pretty easy.

Many games have tons of difficult achievements, which people look forward to completing and feeling like they have accomplished stuff on their characters.

There could be some for getting certain amounts of money, some for doing things like boss runs without taking any damage period, some for reaching certain prestige, one for collecting x amount of costumes, one for collecting every 5 star gun in the game, etc etc etc etc.

Also, I think that it would be very fun and motivating if achievements gave rewards. If there is any way they could make that happen, it would likely be done using the in game mail system, sent to the player that met achievement criteria through mail. You could have multiple characters that acquire achievement rewards, simply by meeting the achievement criteria on a different character again. Rewards could include accessories, costumes, etc (mostly non-combat items).

This could also open up many opportunity for them to exercise their pun-making skills, since most achievement names are like that. Judging from things, such as "Punkin king", they would enjoy creating the achievement names.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 09:09

Skyguarder

How about doing all shadow lairs?

We need more. +1

Also the rewards should be bound

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 10:12

Darkbrady

a/ We have a fair number of

a/ We have a fair number of achievements already
b/ I find it refreshing to have a long list of achievements that are all actually achievable and not including "secrets" or infuriatingly time-consuming of challenging to get (which ruins the fun). Collecting money achievements are boring and pointless, and many people aren't cash-hoors. There already are achievements for collecting 5* gears and prestige is already ranked with icons; why give achievements for the same thing?
c/ You want more free stuff? The mission system gives rewards after virtually every run, many weapons and recipes included. Not only is it blindingly greedy of you to want more stuff, but what stuff do you want? Accessories/costumes? You mean promo/ILB items that are meant to be random or p2p? You want them for free? Shocker.
d/ http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/58831

Fact is, we have a lot of good, fair, balanced achievements already and there's really no need to implement harder, annoying ones that some people will never be able to complete. If you want to do challenges or certain things yourself...go and do it. Take vids/screenies for proof, but there's no reason for it to need to be implemented as an official achievement. Hell, go make your own "these are my achievements" thread loaded with pictures of 100m cr, 200k prestige, 100k LD points, full proto darkfire 0 damage runs (etc etc) if you want to show off.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 10:49

Derpules

Uh, what?

Agree with you in the main, Darkbrady, but where are you getting this from?

"Not only is it blindingly greedy of you to want more stuff, but what stuff do you want? Accessories/costumes? You mean promo/ILB items that are meant to be random or p2p? You want them for free? Shocker."

How do you figure that? I assumed the OP meant new stuff, similar to the crests that were added with the mission system.

And I don't see how merely wanting more stuff is "greedy". This is a game about earnng stuff, and this system--if added--would be one more way of earning stuff. It's not like the OP suggested a daily income for just logging in or whatever.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 10:58

Luguiru

Try this.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 11:27

Kazujaxyz

The current achievements are thrown towards the player

That's my only real complaint. Except maybe dauntless delver and this achievement that requires you to throw like 50000 crystal-thingies into the gates, none of them are particulary challenging or something, and are likely to be achieved in regular play.
Just some achievements that are pretty hard to achieve. Or that document self-induced challenges, like "Beat a full Tier 3 with 0*-equipment". Or just documenting special combat-events like "Defeat 3 enemys with the same charge-attack". Just something that requires actual effort, and isn't rapid-fired at you, losing the purpose of "achievements": Working to get something like a trophy.
Of course, this would also require that people can see what you achieved. Here the accessoiries come into play.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 13:25

Darkbrady

And I don't see how merely

And I don't see how merely wanting more stuff is "greedy"

Hey, I may have misunderstood him, but he said "accessories, costumes etc", not anything that suggests crests or anything small/token. Anything "costume" so far has been pretty much promo items, expensive items, and there are plenty of people who look for any excuse to get some free [expensive stuff]. Sure, it's not just daily-login stuff, but achievements are there to "achieve" something, not for the sake of a reward. The achievement alone should be enough for you for what we have (I refer again to Doc's thread).

Maybe I'm just cynical, but after years on MMOs, whenever I see someone asking for free stuff, rewards, compensation etc, it tends to just be out of greed when it really comes down to it.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 13:54

Derpules

Still don't see how wanting stuff = greed.

This game is about wanting stuff and earning that stuff. The only reason 90% of players are still here is "greed" by your definition. ;P Of course, you might say that merchants and FSC-grinders earn their stuff. Well, so would someone who completes difficult challenges to get the assigned rewards, IMO. What the OP's asking for, even if it's significant (costumes--though obviously not Rose sets or anything!!), wouldn't be "free" if implemented, but earned through effort. Much like event helms.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 14:05

Darkbrady

Can't tell how in jest that

Can't tell how in jest that is precisely, but I do understand what you mean...just, I feel there's a vast difference between people wanting goodies, and people just being plum greedy. For example, I see a difference between merchants and beggars, despite them being greedy for the same thing.

Again, I get the achievement concept that it wouldn't be directly free, but short of giving small token items like crests (which was not implied in the OP) then the rewards would either be essentially free (due to the easy 'chievos) or demanding annoying/hard achievements that don't fit the vibe the current 'chievo layout has, which promotes just playing the game and having fun. Hardcore chievos should be aimed for hardcore players who want something challenging, but there shouldn't be rewards restricted to that. It'd be like giving out rewards to the top LD players each week, which the game doesn't do for this very reason.

Even then, I just don't really get the idea of rewarding on an achievement system; redundancy and all~

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 14:08

Skyguarder

Well

Let's put good costumes for looks only, but they are bound too. Because they are a 1 time reward so yeah, you should have a different reward or make OOO put new costumes and accessories. Either way no promotion clothing.

Sun, 10/14/2012 - 19:42

#10

Spyash

use the convenient search button

There's this nice little search button on the forums. Have you heard of it? maybe you've seen it but next time I'd prefer just adding on to older topics or looking to see what the results of it has been.

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