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The Nitronome Vial

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Sun, 10/21/2012 - 11:38
Kalaina-Elderfall's picture
Kalaina-Elderfall

This is a pretty simple idea. It's a pickup, a throwable vial like the status vials, except instead of status on the target, it basically does a Nitronome explosion where it hits. Mostly for knockback, it could also deal non-trivial damage. Why not?

It could be rare like mecha knight kits, or as common as any other vial. I could go either way. And no, it doesn't have to look like a Nitronome or be called a "Nitronome vial."

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 11:46
#1
Skyguarder's picture
Skyguarder
I like the idea

The problem is, the vials have elemental power. The vials are a collection. I like the idea of having a blast vial. We can finally have a normal type vial.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 12:08
#2
Luguiru's picture
Luguiru

Stun vials.

If you want the huge area of effect use the bomb.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 12:29
#3
Skyguarder's picture
Skyguarder
I think he just wants a knockback vial

That may work

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 13:07
#4
Canine-Vladmir's picture
Canine-Vladmir
I figured...

he was mentioning the knockback, i believe. not a Blast Bomb explosion animation vial.
If this was added ingame, i would have saved myself a couple of times already.
When i get mobbed and i know im gonna die, i just pull out a curse or poison vial out and just wait for my death ._. but i am being a good team player :)
Knock back vial.....:).....+1

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 14:35
#5
Dukeplatypus's picture
Dukeplatypus
Most underrated item in the game.

Stun Vials.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 14:39
#6
Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances
Listen to the box

Stun vials already produce knockback, plus the stun effect.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 18:04
#7
Kalaina-Elderfall's picture
Kalaina-Elderfall
Compare stun vial knockback

Compare stun vial knockback to Nitronome knockback. They are not exactly in the same league.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 18:25
#8
Luguiru's picture
Luguiru

Because the vial can push about four or five spaces while Nitronome pushes about two in a larger area of effect?

You must be confusing Big Angry with Nitronome or not using a stun vial.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 19:11
#9
Kalaina-Elderfall's picture
Kalaina-Elderfall
I admit I am not well versed

I admit I am not well versed in stun vial knockback but I have never seen a stun vial that explodes outward, knocking back a large quantity of enemies in all directions from the blast location. Maybe I'm just using stun vials wrong.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 19:14
#10
Luguiru's picture
Luguiru

" a large quantity of enemies"

There is your problem.

You want the massive area coverage of a bomb without using a bomb.

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 19:43
#11
Dukeplatypus's picture
Dukeplatypus
Stun Vial has a small amount

Stun Vial has a small amount of AoE, so if you can hit a cluster, it's not unrealistic to send quite a few flying.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 02:36
#12
Derpules's picture
Derpules
@Luguiru

"You want the massive area coverage of a bomb without using a bomb."

Can't speak for Kalaina, but as for me: sure, maybe I do. Problem?

+1

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 04:05
#13
Kraanx's picture
Kraanx
yeah, lets make the screen

yeah, lets make the screen blue. make everyone die. who doesnt love that?

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 06:57
#14
Zeddy's picture
Zeddy

None of the other vials have the full effect of a weapon charge.

Which is kind of why nobody bothers with vials most of the time.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 08:54
#15
Luguiru's picture
Luguiru

"sure, maybe I do"

Okay.

Then make a normal damage Combuster (with no status) charge vial that drops just as often.

And a Leviathan charge vial.

And a Nova charge vial.

In fact, make a vial for every single charge attack mechanic in the game so no one needs to work on building weapons anymore when they could just use the freely available vials. Who needs basic sword and gun attacks when they do less damage than the charge or learning how to use bombs because according to all non-bombers all you have to do is spam them everywhere, right?

How about instead of giving us more offense tools than the copious amount we already have, come up with something like a utility vial? Think of health pills and remedies.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 09:16
#16
Aureate's picture
Aureate
Processing Thoughts of You Always

@Luguiru: I don't think he was asking for something that does lots of damage. Just something that deals knockback to a group.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:27
#17
Shidara's picture
Shidara
Stun vials.

Stun vials.

It's been mentioned a couple of times now, and for a good reason. It does knockback. To groups as well if you throw it at one.
If you want a huge effect radius, there are bombs for that. That's why there are bombs. For, y'know, area of effect.

I'm all for more utility tools, but what is being suggested here already exists in the form of a stun-inducing, knockback-inflicting vial called, can you guess it, the stun vial.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:46
#18
Bugtester's picture
Bugtester
o_o

The idea is not that bad, why is everone flipping right away?
calm down guys, hes not asking for instant kill bullets.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 11:48
#19
Aureate's picture
Aureate
Processing Thoughts of You Always

...huh, I thought they removed the ridiculous knockback on Stun vials with the latest patch. Never mind, it must have been my brain derping or something; they work just as they always have when I tried it in ATH.

Hurr.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:27
#20
Derpules's picture
Derpules
Sure, Luguiru.

A max of three vials is totally capable of replacing a bomb you can use an infinite number of times. Yup.

Vials as they are suck except for the two debuff vials vs bosses. IMO, every vial should be more powerful than a normal attack. I say add this one and amp up every other vial to match.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 12:46
#21
Luguiru's picture
Luguiru

Vials are picked up for free while playing through floors. Weapons are crafted and/or bought and 5* weapons cost a lot more than some vials.

"every vial should be more powerful than a normal attack"

We already have too much offensive power. If you want to play the game without using weapons and just throw vials, have that silliness elsewhere or come up with some weapon nerfs which justify giving us more attack abilities.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 13:00
#22
Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances

Why would you need to knocback enemies at range anyways?
Better get a close range non-throwable "calibur pill" with the strength of a shield bump, to use when shield is broken.
Sounds more reasonable.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 14:42
#23
Skold-The-Drac's picture
Skold-The-Drac
Blue screen of death? Fine, I'll make it RED!

"yeah, lets make the screen blue. make everyone die. who doesnt love that?"

If they don't they're not a bomber. Bombers ftw.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 15:20
#24
Marazo's picture
Marazo

Just get a Nitronome, its a lot better than this idea.

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