Spiral Knights - Permanent Color Pallette

Permanent Color Pallette

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Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:30

Uniquevariant

In regards to changing colors:

It costs 50k crowns to buy a 1 time only color and use it, as we all know. Most knights do not switch colors all that often, but on occasion many of us switch after an extended personal color stay.

I propose that we knights should be able to buy a "permanent color slot" for 100-150k crowns. It would then be in our usable menu, to never expire.

How would this work?
Say I am green, but would like to turn blue. I could buy the 50k blue color, use it, and go on about my merry way. OR, I could buy the 150k permanent blue color, use it, and go on about my merry way. Later, I want to be green, so same scenario. If you bought a 1 time use of each, then the game would function exactly as it does now. If you bought the permanent personal color, then you could switch back the permanent colors any time you so desired.

In this way, if one wanted to, they could collect personal colors. Also, you are like me and want to switch to a certain color but know that you'll want to someday return, you could make sure to buy the permanent colors. If you are more htan happy to live out your existance rarely ever switching, by the singles.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 10:51

Forum-Brady

So many people trying to

So many people trying to nullify and negate crown sinks lately. Is there some notion that "now we have cr sinks from the GH, we don't need any more?" floating around that I've not picked up on?

Or is it just not incredibly obvious that crown sinks only work by having more than one? Having them scattered across the game?

Or do people genuinely just not care about crown sinks and the economy of the game, so long as they get what they want (cheaper/free)?

I'm honestly uncertain which.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:32

Uniquevariant

Forum-Brady

Permanent color pallets would be a bigger crown sink than the 1 time usage ones.

I've switched colors 4 times (different color each time) and spent 200k. Had there been permanent color pallets i'd still have used the same 4 colors, but i'd have spent 600k (if they were 150k each). Actually, if i knew i had the option to go back anytime with my previous permanent purchase, i'd have bought a lot more than just 4 of the colors so far, so my total crowns spent would be even higher than 600k.

Color swapping is one of the most negligible crown sinks in the game. I've switched more than just about anyone in my rather large guild--or anyone i know for that matter, and only spent 200k on it. The permanent color pallet would encourage people to buy more colors and spend more when they did. It would be a bigger crowns sink than the current system we have.

--and having more colors would indirectly lead to many players buying and using more accessories and armors, as personal color plays a factor in that too.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:47

Forum-Brady

I've switched more than just

I've switched more than just about anyone in my rather large guild

I know players who switch colours on a near weekly basis. Individuals have far, far outspent you on colour changes. To give them perm items would have eaten up a lot of that sink. Just because you don't doesn't mean that others don't either.
It may not be much each, but keep in mind that crown sinks count from accumulation over time. Perm changes deny that.

Not to mention that even if I wanted to change colours, I (personally) would simply not save up 200k just for that. 50k is acceptable as it's a day or twos worth of FSC spamming; 200k could just be used for too much more. I'd just get the temp one anyways; you're allowing richer players to save money while doing little to entice poorer players.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 11:56

Uniquevariant

i disagree.

I see your point, but i think you are wrong in the total accumulation of crowns spent. I fully believe permanent color palette would lead to more crowns sunk into color changes than the singles.

IMO, it would create a graduated pricing structure, players like you would continue to spend the same amount they would have buying singles, and players like me would work towards getting the entire color palette purchased over time. @ 150k per switch, that would be the cost of returning to a color three times. I doubt the people you know who switch so often have even visited a couple colors 3 times. And if they have, what percentage of the population would that be? .001% versus what percentage of the population would spend more than before because they wanted permanents? (no way to even guestimate).

I 100% believe the price change multiplied by the percentage total of the latter group would far offset the price change x percentage of the former group, resulting in a much larger color change crown sink.

We apparently have different forecasts and speculation on the numbers of each representative group. We will have to respectfully agree to disagree. I suggest whole heartedly that OOO makes permanent color changes :)

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:10

Little-Juances

Ok, buy a permanent color. But rather than costing 3x, it should cost at least 10x over a regular pack.

Or OOO could release special packs like buy 2 and get a 3rd with a 20% discount or 5 at the price of 4.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 12:23

Uniquevariant

@ juances

Yes. Thank you.

Really the suggestion is permanent colors be a purchasable item. The 150k was an arbitrary sum i threw out there. Far be it from any of us to determine what the break even cost is, or where it needs to be pegged to be profitable versus single changes only. I really didn't intend for the price to be part of the suggestion, just spit-balling as I typed.

I suggest a permanent color option, and I suggest OOO look at the color change data and price it so that it is effectively as good or a better crown sink than is having just the single change. I think we could all be happy with that as a reasonable compromise.

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 14:30

Autofire

You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!

I think this should cost CE instead, or a very, very large amount of crowns.

Otherwise, I don't think the idea itself is too bad. The only thing is, though, is that you should have only one permanent color changer in you inventory at a time, or something similar. This way you are can't do rainbow colors and change colors constantly. XD

Otherwise, +0.5

Wed, 11/21/2012 - 15:23

Forum-Brady

We apparently have different

We apparently have different forecasts and speculation on the numbers of each representative group.

Fair enough. I don't think it's a good idea but since neither of us can know the actual numbers unless OOO decides to post here; I could be entirely wrong, so can't debate that point any further. I've stated my opinion and have nothing more to add, so good luck with getting more debate and suggestions towards improving this idea~

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