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Fri, 11/23/2012 - 01:42
Aotr's picture
Aotr

i think there should be a 6 star weapons category for all your tier 3.5 runs, this category of weapons would be extremely op (4 to 5 times stronger then their 5 star version) with a crafting cost of 1600ce and 10000cr to craft and can only be crafted by the sanctuary alchemy machine . they can only be used in tier 3.5 (shadow lairs and firestorm citadel) , they can't be used in pvp or any other missions/depths

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 01:46
#1
Apophis-Set's picture
Apophis-Set
... ... ...

Where do I even begin...

1. Extra programming pain
A lot of people are looking forward to new material in the game, such as Operation Crimson Hammer part 2 (check other thread). Would you really want OOO to spend a long time to code this? Especially making it only used in tier 3.5 (think you meant stratum 6) which was never done before, what would be the point?
2. OP much?
4 or 5 times the strength of a 5star... That's around a 1-hit KO for slags, and such... again, OP
It would ruin the entire game, 6 stars would completely unbalance the game

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 01:47
#2
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer

...

No.

Search up similar topics and see why.

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 01:48
#3
Forum-Brady's picture
Forum-Brady
I was about to say "never

I was about to say "never even read the post; no."

But I did, to be fair.

I want to just leave it at "no", but I just could not escape from "would be extremely op".

Never, ever, ever make a suggestion if even you can admit, in the suggestion post, that it would be OP.

No.

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 01:50
#4
Forum-Brady's picture
Forum-Brady
In fact, the fact that you

In fact, the fact that you even considered this, and suggested that they be OP, I'm going to emphasise my point by saying it again.

No.

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 02:43
#5
Uniquevariant's picture
Uniquevariant
welp forum-bradY

We have found common ground. This idea reeks of NO.

HOORAY for have a shared opinion. /hi-fives

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 02:49
#6
Forum-Brady's picture
Forum-Brady
/me hi-fives

/me hi-fives Uniquevariant

Imagine that o:

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 04:43
#7
Marlwoof
@Apophis-Set

Extra programming pain should NEVER be a reason as to why a good suggestion shouldn't be added. Programmers are here for a reason.

That said, this idea is wrong on every other level, and isn't a good one.

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 05:01
#8
Persef's picture
Persef
No, no no, no.

Approvers of this suggestion no es here.

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 05:44
#9
Dendios's picture
Dendios
Oh god...

We, Spiral Knights, need nerfing not overpowering us with more overpowered weapons to make us much more overpowered than we are overpowered right now.

/closes the thread and continues his researches

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 05:49
#10
Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances

" extremely op (4 to 5 times stronger then their 5 star version) "
" they can only be used in tier 3.5 (shadow lairs and firestorm citadel) "

As if SL and FSC where that hard... Why dont you suggest a WIN button too.

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 06:18
#11
Marlwoof
That pretty much sums it up.

That pretty much sums it up. SL's can be unbalanced in some situations, but it doesn't require more might to overcome, it requires being more careful than usual. FSC is simply not hard.

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 06:37
#12
Forum-Brady's picture
Forum-Brady
Clearly when I said that I

Clearly when I said that I read the post, I was wrong; I saw the "6 times stronger than 5*" and just zoned out, apparently...

" they can only be used in tier 3.5 (shadow lairs and firestorm citadel) "

T3.5? FSC is in T3...
Besides, half the point of SLs being difficult is that the mobs are harder than T3; if we had megaweapons that could onehit everything including the bosses then...it'd defeat the point?
And not being able to use them outside of that would be...pointless....no one'd even bother...

God, imagine a Blitz that rattles out 20k+ damage (and I guess it also inflicts poison, fire, shock and death?)....

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 06:59
#13
Marlwoof
implying that it deals 20k

implying that it deals 20k damage also pertains to not living anymore, yes

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 07:01
#14
Forum-Brady's picture
Forum-Brady
Vana could totes tank a 20k

Vana could totes tank a 20k hit~

He's a champion like that~

S'why he's da' Lord!

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 10:41
#15
Apophis-Set's picture
Apophis-Set
@Marlwoof

I simply meant that the programmers could make better use of their time...

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 14:00
#16
Severage's picture
Severage
rofl.

this category of weapons would be extremely op (4 to 5 times stronger then their 5 star version)
this category of weapons would be extremely op
extremely op

Why would someone..in their right mind...suggest something and blatantly say in the suggestion that it will be extremely OP?

Like really, not sure if troll (you know the rest).

~Sev

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 15:16
#17
Marlwoof
There's a time and a place

There's a time and a place for everything, and that includes intentionally overpowered weapons or attacks. You kids old enough to remember Omnislash?

That said, once again, this is not the place nor the time for it.

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 15:39
#18
Severage's picture
Severage
@Marlwoof:

I'm not a Final Fantasy fan...

Now I know why.

~Sev

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 16:55
#19
Skyguarder's picture
Skyguarder
No Tier 4 or any 5* + gear

Automatic -1 because of your explaination and other reasons on why Spiral knights never puts Tier 4 or Tier 3.5

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 18:57
#20
Aotr's picture
Aotr
@Benightz

tier 3.5 is just a term to describe people who solo FSC in proto set, it's not a actual place to be implemented

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 19:03
#21
Marlwoof
@Severage

This was a very useful and much needed two cents to the discussion. I'm glad it was posted, right down to the silly signature.

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 19:59
#22
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle
T3.5 I believe he is

T3.5 I believe he is referring to Strata 6. This is unnessicary, as 5 star equipment is for strata 6, 4 star equipment for strata 5, all the way down to 0 star equipment which are used for strata 1.

Fri, 11/23/2012 - 22:36
#23
Forum-Brady's picture
Forum-Brady
You kids old enough to

You kids old enough to remember Omnislash?

Counter points: that fit into the game dynamic, the game had bosses that count tank dozens of those "OP" attacks (turning them from OP to nigh necessary), and the game was not an MMO.

Sure, OP attacks can fit in places, but this is mostly certainly, and very obviously not one of those times. Suggesting an OP weapon in an MMO should be pretty obvious even when typing that it should simply not be posted.

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 07:43
#24
Dancinjen's picture
Dancinjen
Did someone say a win

Did someone say a win button...?

YES!

I want it. lets do it.

lol...

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 07:51
#25
Marlwoof
@Forum-Brady

Yes, that's exactly my point XP

That OP attacks can fit into places, but that this isn't one of those times.

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 15:43
#26
Zerokken's picture
Zerokken
Basically, the points of

Basically, the points of almost everybody above is that I'd be saying.

Have you ever heard of a 6 star hotel? No.

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 16:20
#27
Aureate's picture
Aureate
Processing Thoughts of You Always

Actually, there are such things as 6* hotels.
Including 6* items in the game, however, particularly when the OP has mentioned that they will be ridiculously overpowered and only usable in specific situations which most people will never care about, is stupid. In addition, most of those who wish to have such powerful weapons won't be able to craft them, since they're only obtainable and usable at Shadow Lairs - the whole point of which, I may add, is to add a fresh and unique challenge, not to have weapons that pulverise enemies in a single hit. If you then scaled up enemy difficulty and health to match the increase in damage, that would be even worse; let's liken it to having to kill stratum 4 enemies with 1* and 2* weapons. Have fun opening your sealed lockbox with the key inside!

You are essentially asking people to turn perfectly good gear into something both useless and nigh-impossible to get.
There are not enough words for how much I -1 this idea.
/clap

Try thinking your idea through a bit more, then we'll talk.

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 18:17
#28
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer

...

Why is this thread still alive?

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 20:28
#29
Aotr's picture
Aotr
@Psychodestroyer

cause it has a point to make

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 20:42
#30
Softhead's picture
Softhead
Hello!

As you can see, you've necroed your own dead thread.

As you're talking to people who have forgotten, and or, quit, this is not a valid move to do.

This will also cause you to be the ire of all the suggestion regulars.

Goodbye and good luck on what ever suggestion you're doing.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 23:01
#31
Zeddy's picture
Zeddy

Oh, I get it.

I salute you, good Sir.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 00:18
#32
Xxpapaya's picture
Xxpapaya
The papaya is sorry

@Aotr
I'm really sorry Aotr >.> But as everyone mentioned above, its just not..............really......you know. Nonetheless, thank you for your suggestion ^^

Tue, 04/02/2013 - 10:16
#33
Aureate's picture
Aureate
this horse is dead

Please stop flogging it already.

Tue, 04/02/2013 - 14:17
#34
Grittle's picture
Grittle
-1 Why? Cause I dont like you

-1

Why? Cause I dont like you

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 13:23
#35
Xspiral-Ace's picture
Xspiral-Ace
Necroed...lol XD

Softhead, I see what you mean but I think the sixth stratum weapons should only express its power in the Shadow Lair because the five stars have difficulty to deal with the void infected mutants due to their buffness and extreme defense.

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 13:30
#36
Softhead's picture
Softhead
^

But that makes it easy.

Reson for SL is for the Players who hunger for harder levels.

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 14:50
#37
Horseclaw's picture
Horseclaw
REALLY!?!?!?!??!?!?!?

This is crazy! The core would have to be moved to depth 40, there would be a Tier 4, 6 & 7* weapons and a subtown at depth 38. It would also be a huge pain to program and create op, Tier 4 monsters and people who have reach the core, would be very put out

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Wed, 04/03/2013 - 18:37
#38
Super-Ratman's picture
Super-Ratman
For those who want to complain

Pretty much everyone here has made their point. You don't need to leave another comment saying that this is a bad idea.

May I also point out that by doing so, you put this thread on the front page. Personally, when something is on the front page, it should be (a) a fresh idea, or (b) a popular idea. We get it, no one likes this Idea. If you want to say basically the same thing, you don't need to post it.

Now could someone bury this thread in the graveyard already?

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 19:18
#39
Xspiral-Ace's picture
Xspiral-Ace
One more thing..

I'll take your advice Super-Ratman. I just noticed and wanted to say something about it.

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