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Sat, 11/24/2012 - 05:03
Faullboy

I have been using bomber for a long time and ive been having to use other shields for a long time. It took me forever to think of a good way to make a demo shield that wasnt to op so this is what i thought of. How about the volcanic demo shield gives your character movement speed increased low when you first upgrade to, but medium msi when at level 10. This would be good for bombers and would allow for faster bombing, i thought of msi because i always find it hard to not take damage when charging bombs so msi would be a great help.

okay ignore what ive put on so far here and instead of making set specific shield there just be 3 sets of shields with damage and ctr low at start and medium damge and ctr at level 10 and each have different defence (elemental, piercing, shadow). but to balance this combo of 3 mediums (from armour, helm and shield)+the medium from level 10 bomb there should be that each of the different types of shield should have a disadvantage like for elemental shield fire and shock disadvantage, for the shadow shield curse and ice, and for piercing shield stun and poison.

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 05:08
#1
Forum-Brady's picture
Forum-Brady
First problem: Volcanic Demo

First problem: Volcanic Demo with MSI? Shouldn't it be Merc Demo with MSI, or Volcanic Demo with CTR?
Secondly, it wouldn't account for much in the end; even stacking it with Merc Demo would be a moderate boost, at best.

A more appealing bomber shield would be bomb damage/ctr, tbh. Simple, but it's enough. I'd cream myself if they introduced a bomb dmg:med shield, personally. Would solve a lot of optimisation issues that other classes don't have as much a problem with.

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 05:14
#2
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Verodius
Damage would be better than

Damage would be better than CTR on a Bomber Shield simply because the two most popular bomber sets (Volcanic and Mad) both have max CTR with a level 10 bomb anyway.

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 05:29
#3
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Little-Juances

All bomb sets have a flaw, being all elemental. A ctr shield could be an alternative to them, letting bombers experiment with other things without using trinket slots or paying for UVs (as long as the shield isnt elemental either). It's 2 different points of view.

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 06:15
#4
Faullboy
i agree

merc demo with msi would make it too easy to dodge enemys (which i would like) and volcanic demo with ctr would make it to easy to spam (which i also like) so i thought that movement speed would help bombers who are not good at dodging enemys like spookats and zombies. but yeah maybe there should be volcanic demo shield with ctr and mecurial with msi but there would have to be disadvantages to balance out the mecurial set and volcanic set, becuase if you had a full mecurial with 3 mediums you would be impossible to hit and if you had 3 mediums of ctr on volcanic you could murder everything.

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 06:25
#5
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Forum-Brady
3 mediums of ctr on volcanic

3 mediums of ctr on volcanic you could murder everything.

The vast majority of bombers roll max CTR on their bombs. In fact, to bomb these days (especially if you plan on dpsing) it's almost a requirement to have max CTR; "murdering everything" is getting a bit too hopeful. To have a CTR shield would be...helpful I guess, but fairly mediocre and would often be found redundant.

merc demo with msi would make it too easy to dodge enemys

What I mean was that even with the Merc Demo set's MSI bonus and a shield MSI bonus, you would still not really notice much/any difference in your movement speed. The bonuses are pretty paltry and leave much to be desired; even a MSI:VH would be pretty unhelpful in most situations. Dodging enemies wouldn't be much easier than it is now, tbph. I'd still rather a BTS or defence shield, personally.

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 16:07
#6
Faullboy
yeah

How about there just be one default bomber shield that has a little of everything like ctr low and damage low so it does not need any disadvantages so it would be like the aegis line of shields but with bonus to bombers. Or it could be 3 different lines that have the same bonus (ctr and damage) but each have different defence (shadow, Piercing, elemental).

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 21:32
#7
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Zeddy

Silly idea:

*** Swiftstrike Buckler
**** Swiftblast Button

The SBB is a detonator held in the knight's left hand. When the player presses the shield button, their knight will engage in an animation in which they raise their left hand and presses the button on the detonator. When the button i pressed, any bombs placed by the knight will explode.

Pros:
-Instant explosions! How useful!

Cons:
-No shielding! How inconvenient!
-DPS will decrease as knight must take time off from charging bombs in order to detonate.

Sat, 11/24/2012 - 21:55
#8
Forum-Brady's picture
Forum-Brady
like ctr low and damage lowI

like ctr low and damage low

I wouldn't like that, personally. Bomber bonuses come in twos, so having two +1s would result in me capping at VH or having redundant bonuses; neither of which I like. I'd far rather a single +2 bonus that allows me to cleanly cap the bonus at Max

@Zeddy:
I approve~.
I imagine "using" the shield would just instantly "break it" forcing you to wait the [x] seconds for it to regen to full health before being used again, to prevent spamming.
It's a nice touch since the whole shield bomber discussion is that "we don't need shields anyways" so it feels like a win:win, but when those times come that you do need a shield....oh, you'll feel the toll being paid. Puppy rooms will make you just wanna give up and die. But during the rest of your run; would be so much fun~

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 01:31
#9
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Oatmonster
Lick Number 58425

First of all, suggested before. Secondly, I'm gonna use this thread to post my own ideas because I'm just that kind of obnoxious person.

MSI would probably not be something you could put on the shield. Non-bombers benefit from it and I don't think there's a way to make "bomb MSI."

Because bombers can't depend on shielding, let's make it relatively weak with high bonuses, like the Swiftstrike! I'm thinking defense equivalent to the BTS, minus the piercing defense. As for bonuses, let's toss on a bomb damage bonus medium, to put it on par with the BTS. Oh, but what about the inferior defense? How about we slap on a bomb ASI max? Any less and some people wouldn't think it made a difference. Hmm, does that justify having about half the defense of other 5* shields? I would think so, but it it doesn't, maybe we could add some shock resistance.

Thank you for reading my parasitic post.

Sun, 11/25/2012 - 02:05
#10
Forum-Brady's picture
Forum-Brady
Oh, but what about the

Oh, but what about the inferior defense? How about we slap on a bomb ASI max? Any less and some people wouldn't think it made a difference

I know we've had this debate before, but I'd rather defence over bomb asi, even at max. That's just me, though; am just puttin' it out there for the sake of discussion. Personally I'd even just settle with a 3* Swifty that gave bomb:dmg+2, I'm not picky~

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