Sleep max and poison max!

150,000 CE is a lot to pay for something you barely know of.

At the time of this comment, CE is at 7,666 cr/100 CE. You are asking for 150,000 CE as a STARTING BID. Your starting bid is equal to 11,499,000cr. Your buyout is 22,998,000cr. In my opinion that's a bit ridiculous.

Now let's talk money ($).
If 20k CE=$50, 100k CE alone is $250. 150k is $375.
Think about it, your STARTING BID is $375, and your b/o is $750. I think you need to tone down your price a little bit.
You can triple roll 102 times for the money you're asking. I think someone has a better shot at that, really.
Thank you for your time, and good day.

This thread was brought to my attention by a friend, and since it contains erroneous, falsified information about me and my twin brother (pawn) i felt it was only right that i come here and set the record straight.

Xairathan, I have always gotten along with you well, but i'll put this as artfully as i can. Do not presume to speak for, about, or on behalf of me (or pawn). I have no idea why you would come and here and say that "I also know for a FACT that one of the Rommil/Pawn pair offered a solid 450k CE before they quit for this cap."

At best, this is....... i don't even know. At worst, its an out and out, blatant lie to serve whatever purpose, again I don't know. I cannot conceive of how you would come in here and state that you KNOW FOR A FACT that this happened, when it didn't. Did someone tell you that we offered this? Then they lied. Did me or pawn tell you that we offered this, or offer you this ourselves? No, of course not, because it didn't happen. Did someone show you a screenshot of one of us making this offer? Again, no, no one showed you this, because it never happened.

Now, I will like to give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume you meant "i strongly think that pawn/rommil..... etc," but that is hard, because you made it a specific point to claim to know this for a fact. I'm not only offended by this comment, but i'm hurt, too. I am offended because my name is being used to endorse a fictitious price point, and i worked hard to make my good name on this game. I worked hard at knowing the worth of all items in game, and building the reputation as someone who's appraisals could be trusted, someone who would help out friend and stranger alike with honest, researched, and sincere answers. So i do not like my name being used to fraudulently endorse anyone else's goods.

If i wanted to serve as alibi for this piece of gear, i'd have done so myself.

Hurt too, because we were friends in game (still are, i imagine), and i'm confused as to why you'd come on here and either lie, or at best, take hearsay that someone told you, call it a fact, and attribute it to me and my brother. Please rescind, or at least explain your comments.

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IMO, its worth about 100k ce or less. Its obviously only for PvP, it would never be worth this much for PvE. If you are going to spend 100k+ CE on a single piece of PVP gear, i cannot imagine doing it for one that doesn't even let you be a shock walker (immune to shock bombs). The Shadow and Pierce are nice, but they still don't allow you to stand up to that many extra hits. (i believe someone once said its lets you take one, maybe two extra hits--as i recall, not tested this myself). And the elem max is a nice bonus, but not amazingly useful, as DA's are not super popular, and polaris damage isn't that much, its the knock back + shock (which this doesn't help) that make them so common. Bonus points though, because of hammers. I can't imagine it going for more the minimum bid, tbh, or likely even reaching that. If it does, it will be someone who loves PvP and is willing to pay extra just for the prestige and clout of having a triple max helm.

--note: the prestige of having a prism halo is no longer all that prestigious. they are commonly selling for less than 1.5m and will only drop in value as time goes on. Plus, a bound accessory is worth 40-60% of an unbound one. In part, because you are cutting the competition down to only people who want it bound to a skolver helm. Triple Max is awesome no matter what. But by having this halo on a triple max skolver, you are whittling down your target market to only PvP players who want a prism halo on a super helm, who don't mind not having max shock. The smaller your subset of buyers, the less premium you can charge--

Me Personally?
I'd never consider wearing it. I don't like skolver gear for a costume, I don't play PvP, and my MAX+MED snarb cap gives me the same bonus, doesn't have a halo that would be wasted (IMO), and has plenty enough defense for PvE. --the halo isn't wasted if you play PvP, i admit-- Pawn already has a double max Vog piece, so he'd have absolutely no interest in it either. With the exception for both of us below.

I would consider giving 50k ce for it, as a merchant, because i could sell it for profit, i think. Anything over that and i'd not want the risk for the reward, or the burden of having to try and sell it. I imagine 75k-100k is in the possibility of where its value COULD BE. Its hard to say, for sure. The audience for this particular piece is so small, and i'd guess that 90% of them would be really bummed that there is no shock max. Most could get a double max that included either pierce or shock for a mere fraction of ur starting bid, roll on it in hopes of getting the other, or stun as a better third. Then you'd not need to pay for the halo and attach it unless it was your dream piece, as perfect as can be. And by that time, halo's will be cheaper than ever.

Long story short, I think the minimum bid is at the upper end of what it could fetch, and thats with a thorough, patient, long long long search for the right owner. And i don't think it's actually worth it. HOWEVER, i will also say this. This helm isn't worth 1k ce, 100k ce, 200k ce, 500k ce. It is priceless. A thing is only worth what someone can sell it for. Does it have a value? Yes. What is its value? Open to personal differences. The seller values at 450k. I'd value it at b/w 75-100k if i were selling it, and would not value buying it over 50k. Xair values it at......idk, she didn't offer the minimum bid of 150k, and she is a merchant through and through, so its safe to think she doesn't value it at 450k (although I want say that she doesn't, because i won't speak for her. But one can assume that if a merchant saw a chance to snipe an item of 450k ce value for 150k ce, they'd do it).

Note: I try not to come in and pass judgement on the value of other people's goods for sell, unless i have a care to buy them. I'm only commenting here, because if i'm going to credited with endorsing an item i don't, then I feel a debt to the SK community to set that straight, as well as give them my opinion on its value, since I have been brought into the conversation.

TL;DR
Pawn and I have been misrepresented, neither of us thinks this skolver cap (although priceless) is worth its price, closer to less than 1/4 of the buyout in my opinion, unless its your end goal dream to own this exact combination of UVs and accessories on this exact helm. Then knock yourself out.

No one may presume to speak on my behalf, save pawn, and he is banned from the forums. So only Rommil may give Rommil's opinion. Other than that, if its TL;DR idgaf, if you are interested in buying the skolver cap, read it, don't read it, i dont' care.

Edit: I just realized the 450k was the offer claimed, not the buyout listed. either way, my point is the same. i don't care to go back and edit the entire post. The reader can bear in mind the 275-300k CE buyout and make the adjustments themselves as they read through it.

Apologies for that; back in Jempire I know Kyo had an offer of 450k CE. My utmost apologies for bringing your name into this, as it may have been another person and I had your names mixed up amidst the conversations. I'm guessing the name resembled Pawn or Rommil's, and again I apologize for dragging you into this. Screenshot hunting timez.

I hope im not the only who thinks your prices are fair. Good Luck, and good luck with the ragers and the beggers

the other two UVs are Shadow MAX and Elemental MAX

Fehzor's math is close, however, the probability of getting core defenses, in this case pierce, shadow, and ele, is very low.

First chance that your max is a core defense: 4/10
Second Chance: 3/9
Third Chance: 2/8

So, in short, it is ridiculously rare. I rolled a triple max on the test server. I got lucky, it was shock/pierce/normal, but it took me well over 20 million crowns. If that means anything, but I assume the UV rates are the same.

The item is only worth what the buyer pays, no matter what math is used to determine the cost associated with rolling such a triple max supply and demand still dictate what it will sell at even if the supply is one. If people don't want it, the seller will be encouraged to lower the price until it meets a price the demand is willing to pay. Of course a triple max will pull a lot of interest, however if the demand for this particular one is dictated by its necessity then we might find it restricted by the effectiveness of its use in situations. I agree with Rommil that Shock is much more important than anything in a Skolver item, had that been the case this item would be of great use in LD. However out of PvP which this suit may not fare well in due to that annoying shock status, we find the UVs will benefit only in regular clockwork levels and it is restricted at that. In the danger missions in prestige which I am assuming are more popular the cap only benefits the Heart of Ice mission. In the end I think the seller will find the cost to sell this item in a reasonable time frame is too low for their taste and will most likely hold on to the item.

Being a player during the days before UV locking, it seems a great disservice to degrade an item of the venerable triple max status. In the awe of the maths provided by Fehzor, it's simply a gamble which did not pay off. However I do hope you find a buyer willing to agree on a price that suits you, but for that to happen you'll have to market the [scrap] out of this item to buyers with special interests.