I figured one thing out: No one is really prepared for surprises in LD. And since the extra explosion spikes are like blast cube balls, they don't have a blast radius HAI THAR I AM A BOMB thing, plus the unknown fuse count, which could make less attention-paying enemies successfully die from the shards BOTH in LD and in PVE (duh, the only enemy that actually is intelligent is a gremlin)
Discuss how much the new shard bombs can be field traps or not.
my DCB is only level 8 but so far it's disappointing
Also are you only talking about LD? Because most bombs are useless in LD anyway
@Larry
He's only talking about LD. Bombs are definitely underpowered in LD but some have their use. Like, if you wanna tank with Ironmight, Venom Veiler is a great choice.
@OP
I think they are usable against nubs who can't figure how to dodge them, but that's it. So yeah, what Seddy zaid.
Actually, I was talking about both of them. Anyway, thanks for your feedback. Might try taking the salt bomb 3* for a test run in t2 LD. I suck at LD anyways, so I was just looking for ways to get myself up. hehe.
Just after the ubernerf I spammed the one Crystal Bomb I had on top of the point.
Nobody got onto the point, for long at least.
It actually has a much larger fear-factor than the Lightning Capacitor, which surprised me until I turned on Cull Transients. Then I realize that invisible Lightning Capacitors don't have a fear factor.
It's useless for DPS or if someone works out your pattern and manages to sneak into the ring and silently murder you.
Has anyone tried using the Shocking Salt Bomb in LD? Because I suspect that Shock status would probably outweigh the damage value loss from the Deadly Dark Matter Bomb, if players get statused often enough by it - not to mention you can't be immune to it with UVs.
@Aureate, I've tarried using the SSB in LD, and ir's underwhelming. The blast radius is absolutely tiny, and even if someone deprs into your bombs, the shock isn't consistent enough nor is the base damage strong enough to warrant using it seriously.
Bleh. I guess that kills my idea. Back to the drawing board, then... and SSS is probably even less worthwhile, given the propensity of people to put on full Skolver.
(Note: this is all in T2 LD. I have Bomb CTR max for all bombs due to being Level 10 (med ctr) and recon (glitched vh ctr).)
I've used a Rock Salt Bomb and a Lightning Capacitor together in LD. They have proved viable and even deadly at times. I merely put one down, swap, and put the other down. Things are timed so that I have one in effect by the time the next goes off. It creates a shock haze with a ring of shadow damage. This is pretty nasty for any poor striker who steps inside, who becomes is shocked and then damaged via the rock salt.
There have been a bold few who charge in and kill me despite the storm I've brewed, but it's quite rare, and never happens when I'm with someone. One person, Nottheanswer, has good gunning skills and has caused me big problems. (He uses a Super Blaster.) If I'm not storming (my term for it), he'll cut me up. If I am, he'll shoot me down. I assume either being with a good gunner or getting a 3rd weapon slot for my Voltech Alchemer Mk II.
Oh, and I hope to eventually get a full 3* bomber's set so I can use the guardian class and become tankier. (I only get a med bonus then.) Currently I'm using a full Surge Breaker set with a low pierce and shadow UVs (One on each piece) for the pulsar resistance. I also hope to get a Super Dark Matter Bomb to boost my damage.
The bomb CTR VH on recon isn't bugged. Does nobody see the universal CTR med?
Anyways, I've seen people take at least 12 hits without shadow defense and survive. It would probably be more efficient to just go Lightning Capacitor + Twisted Spine Cone.
I think, its not a problem using shards, i mean, if your teammate and other team's member is fighting, they wont have focus to both dodge the shards and fight, so it will be support, but you still cant use shard alone, this is what makes ppl see it useless in my opinion.
Nott's just an awesome ld player, keeps his head on at the worst of times.
There's two methods of sharding that i've had work...
Two-man shards (one has a gun, the other a heavy sword as backup)
Shard + helper.
If you're alone, shards aren't much but an annoyance. Haze and shards is good but is breakable by well-timed kamikaze / gunner.
If you bomb, you do your best not to do it alone.
I was going to defend shard bombs a bunch but then I saw Lockdown.
Yup, they're useless.