Spiral Knights - Poison Buff: LD and Clockworks

Poison Buff: LD and Clockworks

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Fri, 03/01/2013 - 00:54

Xenonguard

Poison. People don't even care about it these days. Besides stun, all other statuses have the potential to deal damage to you, meaning people don't even care about running into a Droul's breath attack anymore. What I'm proposing, is to make poison act like it should. For enemies, when they are poisoned they take damage when healed. Knights just don't get healed. Isn't that unfair? Why should knights get special treatment?

1. Clockworks:

When you are poisoned, for the duration of the poison not only will you not be able to be healed, you also take damage depending on healing source. A normal T1 heart does 1 pip of damage when you pick it up. A T2 Heart does 2 pips and so on. Health Capsules act similarly, with Normal ones doing 3 pips, Super Health Capsules doing 6 pips of damage when you are poisoned, and Ultras do 12 pips of damage.

2.PvP

Poisoned in Lockdown? No problem! Just dash over to a guardian and let him increase your defence to the point of invulnerability! Not anymore. As Guardian Shields heal you, and negate all damage going to anyone inside the shield radius towards the shield health, when poisoned, not only would you be damaged while inside a Guardian Shield, but all damage to any team member within the shield radius will go to you instead. If there are more than one poisoned knights then it would be split between them.

Fri, 03/01/2013 - 01:20

Severage

I think that PvP change is a little much. Since you're already taking, what is it, 30% more damage while poisoned? Being under a Guardian Shield shouldn't punish you. Removing 'invulnerability' is one thing, but making it worse to stand under a shield than to stand outside the shield doesn't really make sense.

The reason Clockworks gives Knights 'special treatment' is so you don't waste hearts on the ground - not being able to walk over hearts in the Clockworks could get annoying. Especially if you accidentally use a capsule instead of a vial - you waste a capsule and basically kill yourself.

~Sev

Fri, 03/01/2013 - 05:14

Little-Juances

Would it actually matter? Are people so easily distracted as to use a pill poisoned?

Fri, 03/01/2013 - 08:04

Zeddy

Nah.

How about poison reduces status resistances just like it does with defences?

Fri, 03/01/2013 - 10:53

Cactac

It already has attack weaker

It already has attack weaker when you have it, we already have statuses that give damage.
I'm fine with the normal poison effects.

Sorry Zeddy, I just don't see how being poisoned makes you weaker to Fire, Curse or Shock, it should make natural resistances weaker, such as stun, freeze, or even sleep, if they implement it.

Fri, 03/01/2013 - 11:49

Mohandar

I like Zeddy's idea.

One way to make it matter is to halve all of your stats except HP and poison resist. This means all defenses, resistances (except poison) and attack power. Movement and attack speed, and charge time reductions would not be affected. The different grades of poison might be distinguished solely by duration, or one could apply different debuff modifiers (like -40% for minor, -50% for moderate, and -60% for strong).
This would have a pretty big effect in Lockdown, and a larger impact in Clockworks (currently, the halved attack damage is the only major threat; the defense penalty seems very low).

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 16:59

Jackaline

Poison can't be reworked that

Poison can't be reworked that way without reworking the C42 prestige mission. You aren't supposed to receive damage from the poison spikes, but are if it catches on fire.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 19:15

Zeddy

@Cactac

I dunno, Cactac. How does poison make your handguns do less damage?

Sun, 03/03/2013 - 23:37

Hexzyle

@Zeddy

It's not a conventional earthly poison. As someone brought up in another thread, it's more of an alien electrotoxin that inteferes with the Knight's armor and weapons.

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Poison Buff: LD and Clockworks