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Need a little advice for my bomber set.

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Wed, 03/06/2013 - 19:07
Soulstaker's picture
Soulstaker

I remembered that I created a thread for help on my future bomber set but I left the game for a long time and here was probably some changes
on a typical bomber set. Please remember that I haven't played SK in awhile. I will accept any well though advice if it makes me change alchemy paths.

Bombs I have right now:
Master Blast Bomb (4*)
Radiant Sun Shards (4*)
Graviton Bomb (3*)
Freezing Vaporizer (2*)
Future Bombs (1-5 rating of priority, 1 being highest while 5 is lowest):
Scinilating Shard Bomb (Not sure is name is right but it is 5* of RSS) Priority Rating:1
Nitronome Priority Rating:2. (While most will disapprove, I like this bomb because its a good way to seperate a crowd of monstors and dish out some quick damage, NOT FOR SPAMMING)
Shivermist Priority Rating:3 (Great for any situation because of large range of freezing and provide support for others.)
4th Bomb unknown but maybe Shocking Salt Bomb
5th bomb unknown

(Reason why I want to at least have 5 bombs because I can have more variety= handling different situations better.)

Armour(But obvious):
4* Bomber set.

Armour I want:
Full Volcanic Bomber Set (I personally dislike Mad Bomber because of its negative status resistance)

Trinkets: Unknown

That's all for my gear, but I might add some more in so it can make people give me advice easier.
Also, please tell me if there are any mistakes, there are a lot of problems when typing on mobile devices.

Bombs I want (From suggestions and my personal judgement):
Nitronome
Shivermist
Scinilating Sun Shard
Electron Vortex (But I'm probably going to have the 3* for a very long time because LD and BN is annoying to spam.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 19:27
#1
Terra-Necro's picture
Terra-Necro
My advice

Looks like you have a straight-forward and good plan for your bombing experience. I have a few recommendations.

1. Remove the RSS. Ever since OOO buffed the bomb, it no longer is viable in PvP or PvE. Just sell it to a vendor or something. (oh, and don't get ANY of the shard bombs. they are ineffective at killing anything.)

2. Change graviton bomb to its shock counterpart (5* Electron Vortex). The monsters that are weak against shadow damage can easily avoid the graviton. The EV is good for FSC and other types of those runs.

3. Make your Shivermist Buster bomb your main priority. It is a "must" in FSC and against Vana. Plus, it works well in other levels (ex. Compound 42).

4. Try getting a Voltaic Tempest (even though the recipe can't be found at the Hall of Heroes, the bomb is very good at dealing with large crowds and giving damage).

5. Your bombing armor/helm choice is superb. Great defense and the ctr VH overall gives max ctr for all your bombs.

As for trinkets, try getting a mix of either damage bonus bombs or heart pendants.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 19:40
#2
Soulstaker's picture
Soulstaker
@Terra-Necro

Only thing I don't like that people always assumes that I spam FSC and other missions with a lot of monstors
The reason why shiver is 3rd because I prefer to use it to freeze enemies and let everyone else have an easier time
But, i am not that much of a support style, I like to do tons of fast AoE damage, while mist bombs are good, they don't do that much instant damage (excluding poison and shiver line) and deal little damage each time the status damages the monstors, they are good for damaging monstors in a long term period but as I said, support bomber is not really my style.
Rest of your advice is really good, thanks for posting it.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 21:00
#3
Qwote's picture
Qwote
From an Experienced Bomber,

-Shard bombs are still good with masses of mobs.

-Electron Vortex is only good because it shocks the mobs and keeps them huddled together (Making it good for that Shard Bomb, eh?)

-Mad Bomber Helm and Volcanic Demo Suit. You still get max CTR and med damage also.

-Two Bomb damage trinkets (To make your overall bomb damage Max!)

-Shiver is nice to have, but I'd prefer Venom Veiler because it lowers defense and attack. I think VV is a better support bomb than Shiver. My opinion.

Thu, 03/07/2013 - 01:39
#4
Terra-Necro's picture
Terra-Necro
.^.

Sorry about the FSC assumption. I was just thinking that because you mentioned your bombing armor/helm to be volcanic demo.

Thu, 03/07/2013 - 03:09
#5
Aureate's picture
Aureate
Eh.

New Sun Shards isn't all that great since the update, due to the explosions flinging enemies around; I'd leave it at the 4* version for the moment. Dark Briar Barrage is generally a better option, piercing-wise, and covers a much larger area, being efficient against gremlins as well as beasts and fiends.
Nitronome is a good basic damage choice for bombs. Go for it.
I personally find Shivermist Buster to be a bit of a pain sometimes, since I frequently encounter people who like spamming the bomb. This would be good, if they didn't freeze enemies in my face and restrict my mobility as well if I'm not careful. It's alright if used carefully, but I find Voltaic Tempest and Stagger Storm to be more party-friendly movement-restricting options, since they don't prevent you from shieldbumping enemies away all the time the status is active. Voltaic Tempest can also rack up quite a bit of damage on clumped enemies, particularly zombies which tend to move fairly slowly.
Shocking Salt Bomb is probably the best of the available shard bombs; the shock status is well worth the loss of damage, since it restricts movement and prevents enemies from being knocked around so much.
Electron Vortex is generally considered a better choice than Graviton Vortex, if only for the shock status preventing enemies from being flung about so much once the bomb expires. Both are great party options, though, and work well with shard bombs.
You might also wish to invest in an Ash of Agni and Venom Veiler; the latter is extremely helpful with large numbers of healers around, or in order to limit damage that bosses can deal, and the former works well synergistically with poison. If you have to get just one, though, I'd go for the Venom Veiler.

And yes, Volcanic is probably the best choice unless you decide you don't care about statuses any more because you love remedy pills so much... in which case, knock yourself out and get a Chaos set.

Thu, 03/07/2013 - 05:13
#6
Zeddy's picture
Zeddy

I have disagree with some of Terra-Necro's advice.

-First of all, Shivermist Buster is terrible for C42. It puts out oilers which make them able to catch fire again. Furthermore, Shivermist is a crutch. You will never learn to fight enemies and bosses properly if you come to rely on it.

-Secondly, while shard bombs are severely nerfed in their current state, Scintillating Sun Shards and Shocking Salt Bomb are still good bombs. Sun Shards is a great way to distribute moderate stun, and since devilites typically don't have a lot of health anyway, they go down pretty quick with the shards. Shocking Salt is the same, but with shock. What's not to like about shock?

Shard bombs can still be murderous in the right situations, but they do need a good bit of damage bonus for it. I would not recommend the rest of the shard bomb lines if you are sticking with Volcanic Demo.

While Dark Briar Barrage is a better option for Gremlins and possibly Undead, Sun Shards are much superiour against devilites and beasts. People assume otherwise these days because Eeks was terrible at using shard bombs and he made a video showing how terrible he was at using them.

-Voltaic Tempest is amazing, I agree.

-Consider putting some priority on Gravity Vortex, or maybe go PvP a lot for Electric Vortex. Vortex bombs are the best at what they do.

-You can't go wrong with Nitronome. Go for it!

-If you're going full Volcanic, you should have Ash of Agni. It's the only thing you need in non-fire arenas.

Thu, 03/07/2013 - 11:13
#7
Poopsie's picture
Poopsie
...

add Operation Crimson Hammer while you're at it. You can buy it from someone else (around 1.5 k CE I believe) if you're using steam. Dark retribution is one of the best dps bombs at clockworks.

Your armor set could be these beside of those general bomber.
Black Kat Cowl, Chaos, Mercurial Demo.
Trinkets most likely are just either bomb damage, ctr or health pendant from those krogmos.
(or may be status effect resistance you hate the most?)

Personally I really want to try Black Kat Cowl + Chaos Cloak + Damage Bomb Trinket + CTR Trinket + Bombs UV CTR Med.
Those will get you movement speed: med, bomb damage: max, bomb ctr: very high (max with bomb uv).

Thu, 03/07/2013 - 12:32
#8
Soulstaker's picture
Soulstaker
@Poopsie

Sadly I missed the Kat event, and it would be too expensive to buy the helmet off of someone.

Thu, 03/07/2013 - 12:48
#9
Zeddy's picture
Zeddy
@Soulstaker

Are you interested in Kat Hiss Cowl? I have pages left after the event I don't really know what to do with. If you're willing to pay for unbinding the 3* hat I should be able to hook you up with what you need.

Thu, 03/07/2013 - 14:43
#10
Terra-Necro's picture
Terra-Necro
My bad

Sorry about the not so great advice, Zeddy xD

I guess shivermist wouldn't be that good (I can still effectively use it in C42 somehow...)

As for the shards, I have scintillating Sun shards, but I guess I'm not too good at using them. My friend had the salt version, but it took him forever to kill a jelly cube in JK :P

I still do prefer other bombs over them, sadly.

Thu, 03/07/2013 - 17:15
#11
Soulstaker's picture
Soulstaker
@Zeddy

Maybe, but after I get my Nitronome which I get in 1-2 days. Please mail me.

@Everyone else

Thanks for all the advice!

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