Spiral Knights - New weapon: glue gun

New weapon: glue gun

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Thu, 08/15/2013 - 12:59

Inf-Stand

3* weapon

damage type: normal

normal: shoots a glob of glue 2 tiles away (can be changed). If it hits an enemy, it does damage and slightly slows them for 1 sec after hit (can be changed).

If it falls on the ground, causes no damage but enemies will be suffer medium slow while walking on and 1 sec after walking off 'glue' tile.

reload after 4 shots, glue tiles disappear after x amount of time,

Charge: Fires a spray 6 tiles wide and 3 tiles long that damages enemies within up to three times and slows them like the normal shot. Also transforms any 'glue tile' into a solid structure that disappears after taking a hit from knights and 2 hits from enemies.

The upgrades of the gun could function in the same way, except inflict statuses, have higher damage, and the 'solid glue' takes more hits from enemies before being destroyed.

Thu, 08/15/2013 - 13:09

Juances

http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Stun

Thu, 08/15/2013 - 13:43

Inf-Stand

@juances

the effects of stepping on the glue would have similarities to stun, but it would not be stun, thus the stun affect would be stackable.

Thu, 08/15/2013 - 13:48

Pipipipipi

you mean add a totaly new

you mean add a totaly new effect that is the exact same thing as stun but not stun and make it exclusive to just one thing

wow, just, wow

-1

Thu, 08/15/2013 - 14:01

Inf-Stand

@pipipipi It's not a totally

@pipipipi

It's not a totally new effect, it's simply a decrease of one stat: speed. Monsters of the same class and type move at different speeds depending on the difficulty level and depth, that's all this is, a decrease in speed.

also, no need to get all bent out of shape. IF you want, just replace the speed decrease with stun so it's not stackable, now what is your input about the mechanics of the weapon?

Thu, 08/15/2013 - 14:15

Pipipipipi

fine, my imput on the mechanics

"shoots a glob of glue 2 tiles away"
ok, that is just really short, increase the range, by like 8 tiles, otherwise it will be like a sword

"If it falls on the ground"
they could probally do that, after all, the old pots did that

"reload after 4 shots"
too much, change it to 2 or 3

"glue tiles disappear after x amount of time"
you should make it 3 seconds

"Fires a spray 6 tiles wide and 3 tiles long"
too short, make it go further, and how many bullets will there be?

"damages enemies within up to three times"
good thinking, we don't want this to be the next blitz

"transforms any 'glue tile' into a solid structure"
not sure if they can make that happen

"disappears after taking a hit from knights and 2 hits from enemies"
make it only 1 hit from anything

there you go, my imput

Thu, 08/15/2013 - 14:26

Inf-Stand

@pipipip

thank you for your input

just wanted to tell my reasoning for a couple of the points you addressed

"ok that is just really short, increase the range, by like 8 tiles, otheriwse it will be like a sword"

I wanted it to be a short range projectile because it doesn't plop on the ground if it hits an enemy. so if it travels 8 tiles til it plops, its going to be hard to set up plops in between you and the advancing enemys. Also, it will be hard just in general to set up an area of plops if you gotta stand 8 tiles away from where you want to set them up.

"too short, make it go further, and how may bullets will there be?"

well, when i meant spray, I was thinking more along the lines of an actual spray, not a spray of bullets. So like an AoE of 6w 3l with plops becoming solids and enemies taking damage and slowed (or stunned).

"not sure if they can make that happen"

don't see why not? Just replace the plop with a different model and give it a box.

just wanted to say again, thank you for your valued input.

Thu, 08/15/2013 - 14:53

Juances

I'll try a different, more direct approach:

http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Stagger_Storm

A bomb that lingers for a few seconds and slows down everyone on a pretty big area.
Your gun leaving a small patch of glue is useless in comparison. Why a gun when you can cover a whole room with just 2 bombs?

Thu, 08/15/2013 - 17:23

Inf-Stand

@Juances

"Why a gun when you can cover a whole room with just 2 bombs?"

well IMO that would be a very good question to ask only if it weren't for a few things:

1) glue patches don't cause stun, so it would be stackable with staggering storm or stun weapons
2) developers could adjust glue patches to stay significantly longer than the bomb's haze
3) 4 and 5 star patches can have added status effects and/or damage from walking over them
4) you can fire the glue at an enemy for damage while moving
5) the charge attack allows you to make physical barriers that can protect ur party and trap enemys.

Thu, 08/15/2013 - 20:43

Hexzyle

Yeah that pretty much covers everything a Stagger Storm does.

Thu, 08/15/2013 - 21:17

#10

Terrty

okaaaaaaaay??? DONT CONTINUE IF YOU WILL COMPLAIN FOR NO MERCY

im not gonne be mercyful here this is horrible idea and this entire thread has just been a 2 way fight about what it should do, one person who adds wiki links to repel the weopon and say it already exists in the game just not the weopon iself, and a person who confirms thats a stagger storm eith a different status annd in gun form sorry to be mean dont complain me like i said i wasnt gonna be merciful and if you ask me its not mean its the truth and all of you deep down will complain me and feel bad XD

Fri, 08/16/2013 - 03:29

#11

Iapnez

@Terrty

For your viewing pleasure.

Fri, 08/16/2013 - 04:01

#12

Thunderbog

How is a glue gun logical? Does it work like chromalisk spit? hm.

Either way, looks confusing of how do ye want it to work. Slowing means stunning the target, and adding another kind of 'slow' would make monsters have a crawling speed, which is giving higher chance to act and destroy. Ye need more specific usage with this weapon.

Fri, 08/16/2013 - 04:23

#13

Iapnez

-1

We don't need a status effect that's like stun but isn't stun. We already have this status anyway. It's called the swarm seed. It uses the stun icon, but it only slows the player's movement.

You can
Slow enemies some and damage them: Voltaic Tempest
Slow enemies more for your team mates to damage them: Stagger Storm
Stop enemies in their tracks: Shivermist Buster

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New weapon: glue gun