Something just clicked a few minutes ago. What if the 5 star vitasuit had these stats in addition to its surmountable health boost. That'd set it apart from the Ancient Plate set.
Idea for 5 star vitasuit stats
Thu, 08/22/2013 - 00:57
Thu, 08/22/2013 - 02:18
#2
@Thunder-The-Bright
Probably not to the 4 star version: other 4 star armors don't usually have anything fancy about them.
Thu, 08/22/2013 - 03:55
#3
+1
Sure, why not. I haven't seen anyone use the 4* version for anything other than costumes.
Thu, 08/22/2013 - 05:09
#4
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Are you saying it should have Statuses aswell? If so, then -1. If you are saying it should have the Statuses then it would be too overpowered. A health boost + a cover of all statuses and it could practically be used anywhere.
Thu, 08/22/2013 - 06:08
#5
@The-Mighty-Potato
a cover of all statuses and it could practically be used anywhere.
So you're saying Chaos is completely unviable and underpowered and can't be used anywhere due to its status weaknesses?
Ancient Plate has a health boost and a cover of most damage (since most attacks do partial normal) so why isn't it overpowered?
Here, I'll try to put it into a practical situation so you can see how it's not overpowered.
Chaos is considered "overpowered".
Vog is considered "balanced".
Player A equips Chaos Cowl and this proposed Vitasuit 5 star simultaneously.
Player B equips full Vog
Player A has the following stats:
- Full Normal Defense
- Half Elemental Defense
- Quarter Stun Resist
- Uni CTR: Med
- Uni DMG: Med
Player B has the following stats:
- Full Normal Defense
- Full Elemental Defense
- Full Fire Resist
- Swo ASI: VH
Don't those two sets seem balanced to you? And that's even with the first set containing an overpowered piece of equipment.
Thu, 08/22/2013 - 06:19
#6
My question is, OP or not, Would you actually wear it?
Remove stun and curse and put MSI.
Thu, 08/22/2013 - 06:48
#7
I certainly would. I could equip that and then jump into any level without having to bother to check what theme it was. MSI would be nice too, provided it doesn't make it too unbalanced. It would definitely make the equipment a "healthy" armor, matching its intended purpose.
Thu, 08/22/2013 - 08:15
#8
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"So you're saying Chaos is completely unviable and underpowered and can't be used anywhere due to its status weaknesses?"
Not at all, it's offensive stats balance it...
My point is is that it's too overpowered. There's nothing bad about this Armor. It's all good. It's got ALL statuses, pure Normal resistant gear can be used anywhere, plus it has an extra Health Boost. I'd +1 this if there was something bad like MSD High (although that wouldn't make sense because it looks small :P).
Thu, 08/22/2013 - 08:22
#9
Source file: http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Purring_Cap ?
Thu, 08/22/2013 - 08:42
#10
@The-Mighty-Potato
Not at
@The-Mighty-Potato
Not at all, it's offensive stats balance it...
But Vitasuit doesn't have offensive stats, so it falls into the category of a defensive armor. That means it is allowed to have fancy defensive abilities. The health boost offsets the lack of specialized defense (with Ancient Plate the debuffs offset the ridiculously high normal defense) and the defense against all statuses is its "status resist": Most defensive armors (Owlite, Skelly, Scale, Volcanic Plate, Jelly) protect against two status with 4 points, for a total of 8 points of resist. This proposed idea would protect against 4 statuses with 2 points, for a total of 8 points, plus a bonus 2 statuses to make up for the fact that it's unspecialised (Just like how Scale gets a decent boost to Piercing and Elemental/Shadow because it's specialized due to the lack of normal defense)
@Feyi-Feyi
Well yeah, the equipment title was in the URL.
Thu, 08/22/2013 - 09:16
#11
What if the puring cap isn't
What if the puring cap isn't removed... And is just a rare drop from mew kats?
Also +1 but no msi pls. It would be better if it provided faster shield regeneration.
Thu, 08/22/2013 - 09:44
#12
"But Vitasuit doesn't have offensive stats"
I'm aware of that, but it has loads of defensive stats. My point is is that it has nothing to balance it out to make it a fair item. Like I said earlier, there's nothing bad about it.
Thu, 08/22/2013 - 10:24
#13
@The-Mighty-Potato
I'm aware of that, but it has loads of defensive stats. My point is is that it has nothing to balance it out to make it a fair item. Like I said earlier, there's nothing bad about it.
Well, I just explained in my previous post how its defensive stats would be balanced with other defensive armor, if not a little bit better than, since some defensive armor is a little bit underpowered.
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Thu, 08/22/2013 - 11:16
#14
I see that my post had an
I see that my post had an impact.
Thu, 08/22/2013 - 12:05
#15
"But Vitasuit doesn't have offensive stats, so it falls into the category of a defensive armor. That means it is allowed to have fancy defensive abilities."
Yes but you're giving it far too many fancy abilities.
Also, Volcanic Plate Set is a Defensive Set. Does that mean it can have +7/8HP and a cover of all statuses a little bit?
Thu, 08/22/2013 - 12:12
#16
I wouldn't wear it lol. Doesn't give MSI.
Honestly, it'd be really lackluster with just status boosts like that.
Thu, 08/22/2013 - 22:12
#17
@The-Mighty-Potato
Actually, Volcanic Plate Mail does have fancy stuff about it too. Full cover of not one but two status resists, ridiculously high normal defense and a decent chunk of elemental defense. It's basically Vog/Volc Demo with a second resist and boosted defense at the cost of double reduction in weapon abilities.
If you wore Chaos Cloak with BKC you'd have a double-powered set with status weakness, but if you wore this Vitasuit with BKC you'd have a regular powered (comparable to other offensive gears) set with no status weakness.
well, that's a great idea. if you give less normal defense, the same bonus health and the status resistances to vitasuit, it could actually be viable.