Spiral Knights - Rabid Wolver Set

Rabid Wolver Set

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Sat, 08/31/2013 - 19:05

Oskvion

This Wolver armor is Dusky themed and resembles Rabid Wolvers. It can be crafted from a level 10 Ash tail coat/cap. It's name might be something synonymous to Poison. The aesthetics may be a Poisonous Aura or foaming at the mouth of the cap.

Stats for each item: Resist poison 3 bars
Sword Damage Bonus: Low
Sword Attack Speed Increase: Low

Normal/Shadow (Could be either) and Pierce are the armor sets defense type. The stats are equal, Piercing isn't higher than Normal/Shadow and vise versa.

It's for those who want to be a mix between speedy attacks and doing more damage instead of just having to focus on one. Could be used in conjuction with Vog or Skolver.

Sat, 08/31/2013 - 19:07

Draycos

Snarbolax already covers poison resist, and the Kat Claw Hood covers mixed bonuses. I don't think this'd be too popular.

Sat, 08/31/2013 - 19:11

Oskvion

Both are difficult to obtain

Both are difficult to obtain unless you are P2P, Skolver has a damage bonus of Medium just like the Snarbolax set. Perhaps the Poison resist on the Snarbolax set could be removed?

Sat, 08/31/2013 - 19:32

Juances

If you want asi and damage mix vog with skolver. Give the armor CTR at least.

Make it unique, it doesn't have to suit your specific needs.

Sat, 08/31/2013 - 19:42

Oskvion

Oh no I didn't mean to make

Oh no I didn't mean to make it sound biased. Not for my specific needs, just a suggestion. I didn't put enough thought into attack speed increase or CTR.

Sat, 08/31/2013 - 19:46

Draycos

I'm saying it won't be popular because it doesn't fit a new niche, it just expands on a current one.

Sat, 08/31/2013 - 19:47

Oskvion

You are right... Do you have

You are right... Do you have any suggestions to make this a bit more unique instead of just making it something similiar to other sets?

Sat, 08/31/2013 - 19:57

Zeddy

Turn Snarbolax into this.

Sat, 08/31/2013 - 19:59

Draycos

On second thought, giving Snarbolax split boosts would be a great idea, even if the Claw cowl exists. There's only one piece...

I'd prefer giving Snarby CTR, though. Just so it's *really* unique.

Sat, 08/31/2013 - 20:29

Waffleconecake

sure to snarb.

I agree. Snarby should have charge time reduction.
Each piece should only provide sword damage and sword ctr low to keep it balanced.

Sat, 08/31/2013 - 20:41

#10

Oskvion

Yeah, I agree with what

Yeah, I agree with what everyone said.

Sun, 09/01/2013 - 02:08

#11

The-Mighty-Potato

-1

Firstly, Ill say two words which infact everyone pretty much covered......Snarbolax Set.

Secondly, turning this into Snarbolax would not be a good idea. People originally went for Vog Set because the only 2 Elemental 5* swords were Divine Avenger and Fang of Vog. You couldn't obtain FoV because Vanaduke was "hard" and so everyone used Divine Avenger. It was Slow and so people used Vog for Attack Speed Increase. Now that we have Brandishes if we gave Snarbolax Set a CTR Bonus then Snarbolax would be the New Vog. Just like Brandshes are already the new Divine Avenger.

A better solution is to change Skolver to CTR instead of Damage. That way Snarbolax set wouldn't be OP for FSC. plus it would destroy Skolver Clones in LD.

We also don't need a 4th wolver Alchemy line.

Sun, 09/01/2013 - 02:24

#12

Dust-Dragon

Beep.

I've always thought Snarby should be split DB and ASI. Low of each, of course.

Gets it away from being a Shadow Skolver.

@Potato: That wouldn't destroy Skolver clones. They'd just all carry brandishes (dat CTR Max).
Plus, Snarby isn't really a straight-forward set to get your hands on; so I doubt it would become "the new Vog".

Sun, 09/01/2013 - 08:17

#13

Draycos

Weapon balance and armor balance are two separate things.

Sun, 09/01/2013 - 10:41

#14

Modicu

In all honesty, the "Rabid

In all honesty, the "Rabid Wolver Coat" should likely have a "Charge Time Reduction: Medium", along with the poison resistance equal to that of the Skolver Coat's freeze resistance. The normal and piercing protection could be equal to each other, to make it unique from all the other Wolver coats. Heck, it could even be used to match up the Radiant Silvermail, by providing shadow defense of that amount instead of normal defense.

If I've confused you a bit, here's a fake image of what I'm talking about: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/51015211/Equipment-Rabid_Wolver_Coat...

The 5-star Wolver Coat series was designed to be flexible in use, to suit the player's play style. If you're an aggressive player who'll trade raw damage for attack speed, then you can go for the Skolver Set. However, if you're the player who wants to have a solid offensive output, then mixing the Vog Cub Coat/Cap with the Skolver Coat/Cap will grant you both a medium increase in melee attack speed, as well as a medium increase in melee damage. You will also gain the benefits of maximum fire and freeze resistance, powerful normal defense, and a fair tradeoff of elemental and piercing protection.

If anything the Snarbolax Coat should be unique from the others altogether, just as it carries both poison and freeze resistance, as well as shadow protection. I like what Dust said about having a damage bonus and attack speed increase of low. It is an unusual coat, afterall. Only being obtainable in Sanctuary.

Sun, 09/01/2013 - 10:44

#15

Raisinfist

Chaos Set? What happened to that? Did it get removed or something? Does it still give better bonuses than this (not including status resists; the Elemental defence makes up for that)?

Sun, 09/01/2013 - 13:08

#16

Oskvion

Raisinfist

I wonder what happened to the Mad Bomber set... Chaos completely outclassed it. Also, I edited my suggestion because Cyberpony made a good point.

Sun, 09/01/2013 - 13:35

#17

The-Mighty-Potato

@Dust Dragon

The Brandishes are already the new Divine Avenger. Plus the people who already have the Snarbolax Set would probably change to it from Vog set because of if it had CTR Bonus.

Sun, 09/01/2013 - 20:08

#18

Dust-Dragon

@Potato:

Saying people that have will actually start using it because of the change is a pretty poor argument for its affect on what players aim for. I wasn't around for the beta and SK's early days, so I can't comment on Vog's availability; but if it's like now, making the Snarby set a better option isn't that bad. For one simple reason: You need to complete a SL, twice (if you haven't bought one material beforehand), in order to craft it. Vog Cub doesn't have that issue standing in the way.

Now, unless you're quite happy hitting a SL in 4* gear, be my guest, but I, personally, doubt many new players would want to.

Regardless, I don't actually agree with CTR Medium per piece. Personally, I think it should be the "all-rounder" of the line, and give Low to both DB and ASI. Each to their own, I suppose.

Mon, 09/02/2013 - 10:10

#19

Oskvion

I totally agree with you

I totally agree with you Dust-Dragon, and I edited my post again since your view on it makes much more sense than some of the other people who posted.

Mon, 09/02/2013 - 11:28

#20

The-Mighty-Potato

@Dust-Dragon

How is it a poor argument? The people who already have Snarbolax Set may use it more for FSC instead of Vog, because almost everyone uses a Brandish and Blitz. People would instead use Snarbolax Set if they didn't have a CTR bonus for their Brandish, and I doubt they would spend about 150-200K crowns for a CTR Medium, which is far too overpriced (Auction House). Or people might split it half Vog/half Snarbolax. I personally don't think ASI Medium is even that noticeable, so I do not agree with you on having Low on each piece. Barely anyone uses DA anymore.

Just because it comes from a Shadow Lair that doesn't mean you can give it better stats than the others. It's like giving Arcane Salamander an overall Beast and Slime Bonus of Very High instead of Medium.

Mon, 09/02/2013 - 11:31

#21

The-Mighty-Potato

@Neongolett

Now that you've changed it it's more like the Kat Claw Hood. Which is an event Helmet and so this is too similar. Still a -1.

Mon, 09/02/2013 - 13:46

#22

Oskvion

An event helmet. Not everyone

An event helmet. Not everyone can obtain it so easily, and the Kat Claw Hood helmet is not popular because its not compatible with anything, except for the Snarbolax set. Which Snarbolax helmet totally outclasses. If the Rabid wolver armor set where to exist, it would be compatible with all swordie armor sets except for Snarbolax. But barely anyone mixes Vog or Skolver with Snarbolax anyway. Also, Kat Claw Hood has a debuff to some status effects.

It would be nice if you could help contribute to this suggestion to make it better and constructively criticize it instead of just trying to find every little flaw. I don't really see why you HAVE to use Brandish and Blitz with everything, I enjoy using my Chaos set and Dread venom striker together, what about those weapons and armors? It seems that you only acknowledge the Wolver sets existence, Brandish lines existence and Autogun to Blitz needle lines existence.

One last question, should the Snarbolax set be removed from the game because it gives the same damage bonus as Skolver? This suggested set has the same bonuses as the kat claw hood. It isn't even in the game and probably never will be. I bet that if the Snarbolax set never existed and someone suggested it with its damage bonus you would give it a -1 for similarity to a already existing set. Look how popular and sought after the Snarbolax set is, probably the most popular set in the game despite it being close to Skolver.

Mon, 09/02/2013 - 14:08

#23

Donald-Jtrump

U ARE ALL SEEING ERRORS HERE

1. I saw many ideas saying they should remove poison resist on snarby stuff. If you were to do that then put curse resist on snarbolax coat because the description of the coat and helm says the gear is too sinister to look at and you take full resist against that. As well, snarbolax coat and helm was made to PROTECT YOU AGAINST THE RABID SNARBY SL PEOPLE???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2. Why would you put ctr medium on snarbolax gear? It makes no sense because it is a shadow lair armor/helm and I JUST GOT 2 DAYS AGO?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3. This is crazy what you people are thinking these days.

Mon, 09/02/2013 - 16:33

#24

Oskvion

I totally agree with you

I totally agree with you about Snarby set switching out Poison with Curse, it would then be a perfect set. One thing I have to say is you might want to tone down your typing a bit... You come across as aggressive.

Mon, 09/02/2013 - 23:48

#25

Terrty

a bit of advice

how about make the helm have dmg bonus med swords and the armor have asi med swords

Tue, 09/03/2013 - 02:20

#26

Thunder-The-Bright

snarby has a curse weakness on the damage taken. also, curse resitance is valued more than any other status becuase of the curse strenght, so you can't just trade poison with curse.
besides, you want to make snarby unique, but it is already. it has shadow resistance. it's good enough. then we need balance on many other things, but that's another story.
ah, the story of "should protect from rabid wolvers" doesn't work. salamander set and ash tail disagree with you.

Tue, 09/03/2013 - 03:10

#27

Zeddy

@Thunder-The-Bright

Turns out Snarby doesn't have curse weakness after all.
Sorry about that.

Tue, 09/03/2013 - 03:52

#28

Thunder-The-Bright

mmm, I thought something like that, I was planning to try when I had a GF. ah well, thanks for doing work for me.

Tue, 09/03/2013 - 08:11

#29

Oskvion

@Terrty @Thunder

You should of put a bit of thought into what you were saying before you actually said it. Rabid Wolver Coat with ASI Med on Swords and Rabid Wolver Cap with Damage Bonus Med on swords would be the exact same with each one having dual bonuses as low. Also, Thunder I myself should of put a bit more thought into what I said about Snarbolax resisting Curse instead of Poison as well. You make very valid statements.

Did you know that using armor with Shadow resistance and a helmet with Elemental resistance, you would actually not really have as much potential at resisting said form of damage than if you were wearing a full set of a shadow resist armor or Elemental resist helmet. Which is usually why people don't bother mixing and matching a Azure guardian helmet with a Volcanic demo suit. It just makes you more vulnerable to two different forms of damage, instead of resisting one form of damage a bit better.

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