Wrench wand and spur line are the only two i can think of, why aren't there more weapons that can act a in between gun and sword? and why are none of them upgradeable to 5 star? Sure you can say brandish line is weapon that can hit from far and close but it can't replace your gun, you can't hit switches and monsters from across traps or gaps. In other words why aren't there any proper all-in-one weapons like gun swords, sword bombs, gun bombs?
More mid-range weapons
Fri, 09/27/2013 - 22:38
Fri, 09/27/2013 - 23:28
#2
Wrench and spur aren't "mid range", their range is as far or almost as far as a real gun.
"All-in-one weapons" defeat the point of specific weapon classes. That's why they changed the shard bombs.
Fri, 09/27/2013 - 23:52
#3
@Batabii
What sort of crappy handguns are you using? Winmillion's projectile has a range of maybe 4 tiles, just about twice of a Sudaruska's swing.
Out of all my handguns (and I have every handgun in at least one variety), the only ones going less than 8 tiles were Callahan, at 6 tiles, Volcanic Pepperbox, at 7 tiles, and Volcanic Pepperbox' charge attack at 6 tiles.
If Winmillion isn't mid-range, what is?
Wrench wand went further than 8 tiles, though. Not mid-range in the least.
Sat, 09/28/2013 - 07:48
#4
Did you try using the charge
Did you try using the charge attack?
Also don't just look at the projectile, stuff like callahan has a longer hitbox than it looks.
Sat, 09/28/2013 - 08:12
#5
"In other words why aren't
"In other words why aren't there any proper all-in-one weapons like gun swords, sword bombs, gun bombs?"
Brandish is your sword bomb, trolarus is your gun bomb
Sat, 09/28/2013 - 08:27
#6
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Pipipipipi...Brandishes are not sword bombs...and the polaris is not a gun bomb. The polaris AoE animation is only an animation. And the brandish charge stops at walls. We need weapons MEANT to bridge the range gap. A tight spread shotgun might work...hmm. I've never thought of making a choked shotgun. For an idea of what we need, look up the Master's Sword Magicka.
Sat, 09/28/2013 - 09:24
#7
@Arkate shotguns:
We should totally take the guns off of the wall of the hunter lodge and use those. Cut of the end of them a bit, get some good spread. Comedian Bill Burr's take on this kind of gun is hilarious. Got a problem over here? Not anymore. I don't know anything about guns, but I'm worried about the zombies. Further away you are the more crap you hit!
Sat, 09/28/2013 - 09:48
#8
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I have noticed those guns too. I thought is was strange that they weren't real guns... then I forgot about them.
Well, they could be trying to keep spiral knights from becoming a sort of...wizardy mage thing, like so many other mmos/games.
They could take on the flavor of magic that is more along the lines of the X-man Gambit, and still feel like SK. Get some punkish grit in it.
It would be rather easy to come up with a 4th weapon type this way. Perhaps they are waiting to build up to that.
And a plethora of other reasons exist, I'm sure.
I'm always for new toys <3.
Edit: oh boo, that's not about magic anymore.
Biohazard/Neutralizer do an okay job at bein...bomb guns.
Do you have any ideas for this kind of weapon you'd like to see?