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Sun, 10/06/2013 - 13:29
Autofire's picture
Autofire

With all the HoH suggestions flying around, I wanted to say something to the topic in general. (Yes, the solution is to make another thread. Reasoning FTW!!)

Some people say it's necessary to have the HoH because it removes the "grind" which Basil forces...

Fun fact: You guys grind FSC all the time. Would you rather play FSC all the time or play FSC until you have the money and then go to the Arcade until you have your recipe?

Fun fact: UV rollers have to roll a bunch of times, leaving it up to chance. UVs play a large role in the usability of certain sets and weapons. (Like CTR on bombs.) UV rollers aren't asking for a way to chose particular UVs.

Fun fact: If you have to go to the Arcade 10 times, that is still more fun than going in RJP or FSC 10 times, is it not?

Fun fact: Boss recipes are Basil only, yet most boss only recipes are much worse and much less popular than Brandishes and Blitzes. (Excepting Polaris) By this viewpoint, boss weapons should be in HoH.

Fun fact: Merchants are already merchanting a lot of things related to gear...make suggestions to remove this or stop saying it's not fair for recipes.

In OTHERWORDS, unless you have ANOTHER argument than what I've listed, you APPROVE of constant boss grinding.

I rest my case.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 13:45
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Ghret's picture
Ghret

People would gladly let a man grind their souls for money under the assumption that is "only for a few minutes". And when they have forgotten the pain they will let him grind their souls again. And again. And again. Until they have become so numb to the pain that they recognise it's existence but choose to concentrate on the money in order to ignore their pain.

wut?
People will ignore logic and do things they hate if the reward appears to be the best they can get within their current situation. These same people can then complain about things which resemble their current state - aware or not - since they simply have learnt to accept their situation.

Still wut?
These people know that they could have more (subjective) "fun" playing the Aracde and yet they will always go and grind the most consistent source of money because it gives out money; And last time I checked people really, really like money.

TL;DR
You cannot use logic on these people since they have long since accepted your logic as true and yet they still disregard what it means in the pursuit of material wealth. Because that is what is drawing these people forward, material wealth of crowns and materials; not spiritual wealth of having fun running with pick-up groups.

Have a song.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 13:47
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Thunder-The-Bright's picture
Thunder-The-Bright

revert "you guys" to "many people (maybe even you)". I am grinding FSC, but some may feel offended and skip the argument.
EDIT: please explain why BYOB.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 13:48
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Khamsin
@OP

"In OTHERWORDS, unless you have ANOTHER argument than what I've listed, you APPROVE of constant boss grinding."

Yes, I approve of constant boss grinding because they choose to do so. I don't think people should have a gun to their head in either scenario. Arcade should be run because it has the rewards there to motivate people, not because they have to continue to run it to get something I want or pay out the nose to merchant scum.

As far as UVs, I think there should be ways to get UV tickets aside from crowns. Trading eternal orbs or krogmo coins for UV tickets would be fantastic in my opinion.

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