@Epicshunk

""as slow as Callahan/Iron Slug" and "as fast as Callahan/Iron Slug" means the same"

Apologies. I didn't understand the part where you said "As fast" and "As slow".

I like the shotgun idea, and I have even seen an icon related to it (it's not related to the gun update though).

But instead of separate projectiles, I think it would be best if it could shoot in a similar fashion as the Metal Slug's shotgun, being the damage calculated by how close the opponent is from the shooter, mainly to lower the number of objects in the screen, preserving the game's perfomance for toasters.

Knockback's a good idea, and the charged shot would make the target fly even further, but I'm not sure if it should stun. I agree that its speed should be similar to the magnus line though.

Two normal shots is a good idea, in which a double barreled shotgun look would fit in perfectly. The charge shot would be both barrels shooting at the same time, with a much larger length range and similar wide angle, but instead of knocking the user down, it would make the user reload instead (I don't think the knockback of a shotty is even that strong, but what do I know about irl guns?)

As for damage values, I don't really know. All I'm sure is that the charge shot should deal 2,5x more damage than a single shot.

autogun IS your shotgun

I can assure you I'm real (if I was imaginary, I'd hope to pay less tax), and that there have been untold thousands of permutations on the "why not get shotguns" suggestion since the game launched in 2011. Almost all of them have been received negatively by the community. Exactly none of them have been implemented.

Here's the thing. The differences between weapon classes in SK boils down to how they distribute damage. Guns apply it linearly over distance, Bombs apply it locally over area, and Swords provide a mixture of the two at a shorter range than both. I can't find the thread, but that's not something I've extrapolated - that's direct from Three Rings, that's how they describe the weapon classes. There are variants - Flourish line swords that deal with strict linear application (but at short range), Pulsar line guns that deal AoE damage (but only at distance) - but that's the stratafication, as used by the designers.

So: shotguns. Short-range, damage over area, focused in front of the player. You've come up with a couple of (wildly conflicting) variants there, but that's what the "shotgun" archetype is in video games. Which means, under SK's weapon classification system, what it actually is...is a sword. Perhaps a slow, longer-ranged sword...oh, we already have them? Either way, you're describing a weapon that does heavy damage over a short-range arc. That's what swords do. If you're decribing a weapon with a cone of fire closer to an Autogun, except it fires all the pellets at once...that's...not that useful. Especially at pure-Normal, which gets less and less useful as you get to higher Tiers.

@Epicskunk

what Effrul is trying to say is that SK has its on mechanics and classification requirements for weps

Sword = shorter range than gun and bomb with frontal angular/linear attack range
Gun = longer range than sword and bomb with linear damage path
Bomb = wide range AoE and has blast and detonation time

now according to that definition, shotgun is a sword (because of its close proximity to target/s), a bomb (because of blast/explosion) and a gun (for obvious reasons)

I don't recall any SMG's in games that cause a 45 degree angle between the bullet range.

You DO know how large a 45 degree angle is, right?