Title says it all.
Seems to me like heating and leveling your weapons is a result that shows you use that weapon enough for it to become stronger.
However, why isn't it possible to heat a weapon in LD while you're using the same weapon as well? Doesn't even have to be a lot, like 5 matches for lvl 2 on a 5* weapon, 6 matches for lvl 3 etc etc.
It would certainly make heating way less of a pain and the game overall more enjoyable to me if this were possible.
Last time a knight wanted to warm up another knight with their heat it didn't end well. A lot of it involved cursing and poking each other with sharp things.
It's fine just the way it is causing genocide on monsters out of self defense.
Edit: Knights don't have heat to begin with. We need to kill monsters to get heat to make our weapons stronger. What this suggestion is basically asking is that we can we be allowed to steal heat and decrease the heat levels of others weapons.
Would you want that? Your 5* to have to get even more radiants? If your answer is yes, you must be foaming with radiants oozing from your arsenal.
If knights dropped a small amount of heat when they died that might be neat. It could also be factored in as a new score mechanic with "heat obtained".
Seriously, Knights killing each other for heat? Is this what goes down when all the monsters are killed?
Idk man,
We rip the wings off of dragons and then tear the tails off of wolves and duct tape them to our own armor. We run into LD with weapons meant for killing monsters to kill our fellow knights for special tokens and bombheads, and you find it morally wrong to kill eachother for heat? I'd much rather tear you up for any amount of heat than a stupid bombehad costume I'll probably wear about 2 times.
Back to the topic: I hate pve of sk and I enjoy the pvp a lot. I don't think it's right to punish people by making them grind something they hate in order for them to get stronger weapons, because let's be real here, an unheated FF is pathetic. I wanna go full power in LD, but in order for me to do so I need to grind several hours of a repetitive, boring and just plain stupid mission in order for me to get the amount of maximum of heat and rads to make my gear stronger. A lot more people would play this game if you could just heat in pvp and buy rads with krogmo coins.
I'm pretty sure OOO isn't doing any of this (this stupid heating system, forge, no more mist, rads) to improve their game, it's simply to get more cash so they can waste their time designing trojan buttplumes and prize boxes with an 80% of getting [scrap] UV tickets even though you just wasted irl cash on it.
"Back to the topic: I hate pve of sk and I enjoy the pvp a lot. I don't think it's right to punish people by making them grind something they hate in order for them to get stronger weapons"-Scirio
Again, you can apply that to the opposite arguement, why should anyone endure being called noob get killed by 3 MAX UV GF/FF skolver clones for 8 minutes when they can arcade run or vana farm to their heart content? Again, it is really up to a player's preference, you can't apply your own mentality to everyone in SK Scirio.
Yeah exactly,
if you don't like pvp go heat in pve
if you don't like pve go heat in pvp
That's the solution right there. But as of now the only way to heat is pve so you're screwed even if you hate pve
What is a LD?
Just joined SK last week so don't judge me.
Welcome to Spiral Knights and the forum. LD is Lockdown. Basically a game mode that pits players against players in an arena to capture 'points' and win. Think of it as Domination in Call of Duty.
@ Scirio; it's a good idea but then again LD isn't the focal point of SK. Mixing important elements of the 'game' with LD will just cause more suggestions similar to this to pop up later. Next there will be crown drops when you kill an enemy, then material drops then even weapon drops.
Basically what I'm saying is, LD is for the elite, to test our skill and pimped up weapons against other players. I don't want some noobs only joining LD to heat up their weapons because they don't like heating in the clockworks. On top of that you'll have players camping in the ready room thinking about how many fire crystals they should use in the forge. It'll slow LD down considerably.
This should also be in the Suggestions forum :/
Where do we even get heat in LD !? From Players ? FYI players can't drop heat untill they have heat...Think before you post...
EDIT :Do you even know how The heat system works ? You collect heat, then it enter your weapon....Not "play 5 match and you complete 2 lvl heat on 5 star "
If you can't read, don't respond.
I suggested maybe getting a full level of heat for level to complete lvl 1 from 5 matches, then to complete lvl 2 you play 6 matches, so on and so forth. Heat from matches, not from players. I can't teach you how to read, you'll have to learn that yourself.
I also did not put this in suggestions because I asked 'why we can't heat in LD' I want answers.
To use your own words, 'think before you post'
Edit after your edit: they can easily adjust the heating system to suit PvP. Don't act like that's impossible.
Sorry, I thought you were suggesting heat from players after I read this
if you don't like pvp go heat in pve
if you don't like pve go heat in pvp
my bad.
Also you are technically suggesting that heat should be obtained from LD. You have explained a way for players to get heat and you have given an opinion on how it would be beneficial.
You shot yourself in the foot in your little rage;
I suggested maybe getting a full level of heat for level to complete lvl 1 from 5 matches, then to complete lvl 2 you play 6 matches, so on and so forth. Heat from matches, not from players.
This belongs in Suggestion forum.
However, why isn't it possible to heat a weapon in LD while you're using the same weapon as well? Doesn't even have to be a lot, like 5 matches for lvl 2 on a 5* weapon, 6 matches for lvl 3 etc etc.
[no personal attacks please]
Do any games give experience from PvP?
~Gwen
Ok what ever.
Back on topic; I just think SK shouldn't revolve around LD. This way of heating is far more convenient than heating in the clockworks thus more people will stray from the clockworks. Sorry if I misunderstood your initial suggestion. But now I get it, and it just doesn't seem right to me. You can say then stick to pve don't do pvp. Well I would find it unfair if pvp heated my weapons up faster than pve. I'll also get pretty bored if lots of people are doing pvp to heat their weapons and clockworks are deserted. How long on average does it take to finish one round of LD?
Sorry for the edit guys: How can you say I don't read when you clearly contradict yourself? Do you even know what you are talking about?
and you find it morally wrong to kill eachother for heat?
I'd much rather tear you up for any amount of heat
So here you guys are talking about getting heat from players, yet you then turn around to me and say we are not getting heat from players rather from the match itself?
Arc, ya seem moody. SMILE! ^_^
If there was ever a time we kind of...well... upset each other. Honestly these gifs, they always put a smile on my face.
When a fair amount of the players are only still playing this game because of the pvp, it's probably a good idea to expand pvp. Or balance it. Idk I'm not a game designer, I'm only a gamer, I probably don't know what a gamer would like in a game. Sorry I'll graveyard this immediately.
Also, arcknightdelta, [image removed - please do not link to images which contain language that violates our forum rules]
Because you see a fair amount of players in PvP doesn't mean it's the game's majority.
I play the game for fun, and I love the clockworks. PvP is also fun, but it's not the reason I play this game frequently.
No one is hating on you, so can you just stop with the petty insults.
Don't get me wrong PVP is very fun to play but the heart of SK revolves around PVE. It only makes sense for OOO to focus all their attention on PVE, make that solid then add bits and bobs to PVP. Right now there are more important things than implementing a new heat mechanism for PVP.
Edit: and now you are editing your comment. From Majority to Fair. Make up your mind please.
and then there's this gem
weird how i'm the one advocating for pve and basically saying pvp can take a backseat to the main content of the game, and somehow that's what elicits a comment about credit cards - it quite simply doesn't make sense considering the implication is that i swipe a credit card to do anything in the game, and yet i'm basically saying that your idea is flawed at the core because it would detract from what little value replaying anything in the clockworks currently has
but i guess with comprehension skills like yours, it's not hard to see why your previous endeavors in things like guild management and pvp have been such a success
anyway i have to go back to work to fight my way out of mountains of endless debt, later taterbater
Oh, you're trying to insult me by saying my guild has failed. But in order for you to do that, I would first have to value your opinion. Ish funny because even though we closed the guild, we're still getting more applications than most other guilds, haha. This is not the eos recruitment thread and though derailing the topic may be some of your finest skills as seen on said thread, this discussion with you is not going anywhere
I'm just asking why there's no room for the option of which I build this topic on, anything else you have to say is fairly redundant and doesn't really add to a solution
As I said previously I think your suggestion is good. There may well be an option to add it. But how will OOO know you want it added if you have it in general discussion and not in the suggestion forum?
Also the main reason for me, is heating is one of the main focuses of PVE so it should remain specific to PVE. One of PVP main focus is for players to fight each other so that should remain specific to PVP. It's like saying team killing should be allowed in PVE. It's absurd. Although your idea isn't absurd it's just not something that should be done. Am I making sense?
:/ well, OOO never intended PvP to be the major element of this game, it is simply an end game player luxury. I really don't want the heating to be involved with LD, the toxicity in LD is so high, I have to farm the darkwood forest for hours to get enough moss to cure the poison.