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Piercing Variant Of The Brandish Family - Estocius

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Tue, 04/22/2014 - 19:03
Hrpb's picture
Hrpb

http://havenlyschnipes.tumblr.com/post/62903222263/estocius-piercing-var... , whatcha guys think?

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 19:19
#1
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato

I think it would be overpowered and render the FF obsolete if it deals no status because it'll become a Piercing Acheron.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 20:26
#2
Midnight-Dj's picture
Midnight-Dj
:/

I think we are better off making a heavy lance class with piercing and normal damage while deal two hits per combo.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 20:36
#3
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato

So like a Piercing SS?

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 20:45
#4
Midnight-Dj's picture
Midnight-Dj
@solanastrum

Yes, with a wide swipe and a powerful charge for the second attack, the second attack should have a good reach as well as a large AoE.

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 04:59
#5
Holy-Nightmare's picture
Holy-Nightmare
True to my name, I am but a dream....

If brandish lines got nerfed then yes. As is, the brandish has the most lines (for sword) and is considered the best sword line in the game.

And may the energy be with you. XD

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 05:06
#6
Flame-Shinobi's picture
Flame-Shinobi
I'm not guud w/ wep stats but...

It looks very nice. I love it!
+1 if ballanced properly.

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 10:40
#7
Pipipipipi's picture
Pipipipipi
Roses are red, murder is blue, yet they don't have a clue.

We don't need more brandish, balance comes first

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 11:31
#8
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

I think that with the direction the game is heading, this is perfectly acceptable.

Flourishes need to be dealt with in some way already, and we shouldn't base our assumptions of what is and is not balanced on the existence of already outdated items.

For instance: Is the black kat cowl balanced? Well, since it doesn't align with valkyrie's design, no... But that misses a ton of points about the item and the philosophy of the design behind things. Black kat is balanced with chaos. Acheron is balanced with the other brandish swords. Yes, these things need resolving, but that isn't really what we're questioning right now.

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What IS to the point, is that THIS ITEM/MODEL WAS MADE BY YOU OR SOMEONE NOT IN OOO.

Yes, yes I want this. I want community submitted items. Yes yes yes yes yes.

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 11:34
#9
Vanguard-Xelon's picture
Vanguard-Xelon
Cool Concept Comrade

+1 if it is balanced

even if not, it lets us tell the newbies to grab a brandish or 500 and make ALL OF THEM
make it a basil recipe

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:26
#10
Hrpb's picture
Hrpb
May The Energy Be With You! ^_^ ™

@ Fehzor Yes it was made by me ^_^ I played with the skins , opacity and colors.

@+1's Thanks! ^_^ MTEBWY!

I think 40% less damage and the stun status (not strong, only moderate) would be nice. Though, remember, this is the "suggestion" forum.

Im not trying to make everything unbalanced.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:34
#11
Dibsville's picture
Dibsville
no, it doesn't even make sense

Brandish:
• Long-range charge attack
• High damage on charge attack
• Fast attack speed
• Has status variants

Flourish:
• Long-range charge attack
• High damage on charge attack
• Fast attack speed
• Has status variants

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:50
#12
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Well, to be fair its more like:

Brandish:
-3 hit combo; short range on all 3 hits
-Larger, area damage charge attack; offers high single target DPS
-Lunges forwards a bit

Flourish:
-First hit is extra wide; 2nd and third hit are shorter
-Charge attack is high single target damage
-Lunges forwards significantly

They're totally different weapons. Flourish really rewards the player for using only the first hit of the combo to accomplish crowd control, while brandish rewards the player for finishing/progressing in the combo for high single target DPS or for charge spamming to crowd control. Flourish's combo is really best for picking out healers and throwing them out of the group; brandish relies on its charge to accomplish this.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 23:58
#13
Fangel's picture
Fangel
How does it... How does it work...?

I think the piercing element is good here, but maybe instead of making it passive-snarbolax themed, theme it to tier 3 jelly cubes. The explosions could be spikes poking out of the ground.

However, I think it should only deal normal damage and no status on the standard hits. I just can't see how a brandish can pierce an enemy without having giant spikes sticking out of the sword, in which case it might as well be a strange mace.

Then again, I don't think we really need more brandish lines.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 16:45
#14
Draycos's picture
Draycos

I think it'd be fun to see nearly every weapon have multiple options for what kind of damage they deal. That way, people would pick weapon lines because of what they're capable of mechanically, not what their damage type is.

But then that'd be nearly the same thing as making every weapon deal the same type of damage..

Also, Fangel, it'd deal piercing on normal hits for the same reason a Flourish deals piercing on its 1st attack.

It's a video-game.

Sat, 04/26/2014 - 11:41
#15
Bamzalot's picture
Bamzalot
Sure, 4 stars! If balanced anyways.

I don't want this weapon to become some brute with the power of an Acheron but with piercing damage. But it is yellow, and I need more yellow stuff. So it would be great if this was a weapon put in with proper balancing.

That charge attack is perfect...

Sat, 04/26/2014 - 22:05
#16
Akuryo's picture
Akuryo
o....o)

im not so sure on it having stun status but the explosion makes it logical in a way

other than that it's good. but make the the blade more spiky or something. and the blasts should have (instead of pillars of light) mini spiky barbarous thorn bomb explosions (but yellow and small black debris maybe)

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