Spiral Knights - Guide to successful Apocrean farming fast and efficiently + my ranting

Guide to successful Apocrean farming fast and efficiently + my ranting

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Dom, 06/22/2014 - 11:50

Zaderules

I know there are other threads about how to go about Apocrean farming, but I want to someday meet randoms in game that will have seen this thread in some way. And I can die a happy knight.

This guide is for those who decide to go to the Elite Difficulty of the Apocrea mission.

1) Go in a party of 4 that can follow EVERYTHING below. Party of 3 works if everyone is an efficient farmer. Do keep in mind the health of souls decrease due to less people being in the party.
2) After trial and error, you should PROBABLY know what works for you and what doesn't. Get a weapon combination to kill ALL 3 souls without have them all disappear. Doesn't matter HOW you do it, just DO IT. Thats a maximum of 12 sigils PER tombstone. There are other threads with their strategies for killing souls. READ those threads. I don't want to see someone waltzing in with a catalyzer expecting to farm up a buttload of sigils. Ain't gonna happen buddy.
If you see someone with a questionable weapon choice that halts them from killing 3 souls within the amount of time before they disappear,

Leave the party or kick that person
Ask the person. perhaps it is a mistake OR they will respond they know what they're doing. If so, let them be.

3) DO THE non-apocrean LEVELS. PLEASE. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. Make sure everyone has a vitapod + 3 health pills. If not, well, you're at an extreme disadvantage.

If you're in an arena, I suggest you do the entire arena for crowns, heat, radiant crystals (hard to get), and of course the vitapod + 3 health pills
If you decide to not do the arena, it should be for the following two reasons: someone doesn't have enough time to play and is responsible in his/her real life OR your team just has the worst equipment to have in arena (which should almost NEVER be the case)

4) When the Apocrean levels come, JUST FARM. FORGET THE DAMN PUZZLES. My number one pet peeve: people just go searching for the key hole or the key or a puzzle WITHOUT FARMING. Use common sense people.

Let's get an overview of what the puzzles are (from my experience):

Find water + throw onto fire
Find statue + put onto pressure plate
Step onto 3 candles in an altar in the right order. If it's not the right order its the same as getting exploded into the face + reducing your health. You can find the right order by searching for a mound with 3 candles. Look at the order as it rises from bottom to top.
Find key and put into key hole. Keys can come from: walking along the purple circular markings (Note: This is NOT the one from walking perpendicular purple lines. the lines have to be circular for it to be the right one), Kill regular scarabs after activating a skull in the middle of barren ground, Kill trojan statues to release the key, Find the key in plain sight without doing anything

Each puzzle also has a chance to drop a perpexling element. Which is useful for crafting whatever you need. There probably is more puzzles, but this is from my experience. Check out other threads for more possible puzzles to encounter.

Now back to the point. How many sigils is a puzzle worth? In elite difficulty, it's 18. Now let's do the math. 18 ÷ 4 = 4.5 That means 4.5 souls = 1 puzzle. How long does it take to kill approximately 5 souls? SHORTER THAN IT TAKES TO FIND THE DAMN PUZZLE. Damn. Use common sense.

5) What to do in Apocrean levels: JUST FARM. Each party is different in how they organize. But all parties have one thing in common: Kill the tombstones pls.
Also - kill scarabs so other people don't die needlessly.
Another point - if you're being chased, let people know.

Here's several party organizations that have worked for me:

Every man go kill souls by themselves. Whenever a puzzle is encountered, let other people know what it is and how it's completed. DON'T GO SEARCHING FOR THE OTHER DAMN PIECE of the puzzle. JUST HACK AND SLASH TOMBSTONES. When someone is being targeted by the harvester, that is the ONLY time when you DON'T FARM. THAT is the time to go puzzle hunting. I have seen someone open 6 tombstones all filled with souls only to not be able to kill any of them because they were running away from the harvester. When you are not hunted by the harvester, GO BACK TO HACK AND SLASHING TOMBSTONES. (More for those PUGs)
2 groups of 2. Each group kills EVERYTHING even if there is a harvester around. You have a get out of jail free card with your other teammate around. And you guys just farm. Keep note when you encounter puzzles for everybody. That is what the chat is for. (More for those with voice communication + friends)
Have a designated baiter, and 3 farmers that encounter puzzles randomly and relaying information to everyone. This works, but honestly the baiter has got to be bored. haha. (More for those who have a person in the party that doesn't mind getting bored)

6) If you die after your emergency revive, you won't be able to receive sigils that your teammates obtain (at least for the majority of the time). I've received sigils after I died sometimes, it's probably a bug. So honestly, if you die, either stay dead for the rest of the level or revive immediately. Keep a goal in your head. Think "I can afford to use 1 Spark of life" or however many spark of lives you think you can use just for 1 level. Is your party worthy of using a Spark of Life? That is all up to your judgement on how good your party is. If your party can't even farm souls and just want to search for puzzles? Leave them. It's hopeless.

7)SO. HAVE FUN AND GOOD LUCK ON FINDING RANDOM GOOD TEAMMATES. HAPPY FARMING FOR THAT GRASPING AURA MATES (10,000 sigils FYI if you don't know already). Thanks for reading!

P.S. If theres anything I'm missing/questions/comments/concerns, let me know. I will update this guide if necessary.

Edit: Added Perplexing Element, Killing scarabs, Say you're being chased

Holy-Nightmare's Information about Puzzles
Glowupball's tactic + insight on Advanced difficulty
Reto-Da-Liz's artistic ways to kill souls

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 12:56

Sandwich-Potato

Puzzles can also give you obsidian materials. I've gotten Perplexing Elements from them.

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 13:06

Sintag

If I May.

First off, you're not the boss of me.

Second off, really, you are NOT my boss. Get out of my office. I just made a coffee run.

And finally, if you DO encounter a puzzle, look for the other piece, BUT take souls out as you go. And if you're being chased by the Harvester, or the Harvester has decided to hate you instead of it's target, then drop everything, no matter what, and either run away, cloak, or get wrecked hard. Sandwich is correct. Puzzles can dole out obsidian mats.

And for an added tip, don't, and I MEAN DON'T, park yourself AFK next to the elevator. Make yourself useful to us or get out.

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 13:26

Mystrian

Hi there fellow spiral knights player! Seems like your aggravated, maybe a pat on the back will cheer you up!

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 13:32

Terrifying-Pancake

You titled this thread with

You titled this thread with fast efficiient farming. Then you talk about joining parties of 4 randoms and doing thenon apocrea levels.

You are misleading people.

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 13:49

Iapnez

Hail Vog

You do the non-apocrea levels so you can have more health to afford going faster. Most of the time I bring a pair of penta hearts and the health boost 6 in the off chance that I don't get any vita. At least then it's the equivalent of starting with a vita 18.

Health is PARAMOUNT in Apocrean.

If I may add something, Zade...

People, for the love of Vog, please kill the scarabs. Not only will it help cut down lag that a lot of people experience, but you won't get annoyed and swarmed by scarabs while you're trying to get souls. Recommended: Voltedge/Combuster charge or Dark Briar Barrage.

More often than not I'm the one with 30+ health and an ER while all the other people in my party have died at least once because of the freaking scarabs.

Also, call out when you're the one being chased! Just type "me" in the chat. Do it when you get the image of the apocrean flash on your screen. This would greatly help others know when they're safe to farm, if you're completely splitting up.

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 13:55

Blazzberry

SCP-96

Are you enjoying the salt, Whimsy?

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 14:01

Zaderules

@ Sandwich-Potato nice. forgot about that

@ Sintag well if someone needed to afk for a real quick moment or needs to d/c and reconnect then by all means park by an elevator otherwise you'll die :l

@ Mystrian yush. thx. such beautiful people like you make my day.

@ Fettuccine-Alfredo yah nuthead. apparently you dont like to read. or you don't understand.

@ Malsvir-Branea nice stuff. added. thx for input.

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 14:37

Whimsicality

I don't like when my pasta is overseasoned.

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 15:06

Darkriod

Thanks

Thanks for writing this

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 15:26

#10

Bopp

so puzzles or not?

Zaderules: [Rant about how not to do puzzles, because they are inefficient.]

Sandwich-Potato: Puzzles can also give you obsidian materials. I've gotten Perplexing Elements from them.

Zaderules: nice. forgot about that

Okay, you now recognize that puzzles may have more benefit than you originally acknowledged. By doing a puzzle, I might get 18 sigils and a 3-star material worth 65 sigils, for a total of 83 sigils worth. So how does this affect your advice/rant, and how are you going to amend your original post?

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 15:44

#11

Flowchart

I guess that would only matter if you still wanted to craft weapons and weren't trying to get auras to sell at increasingly dropping prices (for now).

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 15:52

#12

Holy-Nightmare

Various other monsters can

Various other monsters can spawn in puzzle rooms, you mentioned Trojans and grave scarabs but devilites, regular bonbies, toxigels, blech bunnies, plague scarabs, and frozen dreadnaughts also spawn from puzzles (that is not counting the tomb spawning pale scarabs, freezing bombies, and lost souls). Some spawn after puzzle completion and some must be killed to complete the puzzle.

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 16:13

#13

Zaderules

@ Bopp does getting a CHANCE for getting 65 sigils justify spending all of your time finding puzzles and NOT even hitting a tombstone? no. Why do something that has such a low occurrence of happening, where getting 12 max sigils a piece is more guranteed. 83 ÷ 4 = 20.75 souls. That would mean you would need 20.75 ÷ 3 souls per tombstone = 6.917 ≈ 7 tombstones.

In all the time it would take you to open 7 tombstones I'm pretty sure you can kill tombstones much faster than solving a puzzle WITHOUT hitting any tombstones. The perplexing elements are just a small bonus. its all in the tombstones for massive farm.

The point is, just hit the damn tombstones and farm. Don't just walk by like 20 tombstones without hitting any. Thats what I'm getting at.

@ Flowchart yeah. thats also a factor.

@ Holy-Nightmare yeah too much stuff I don't want to list, but yeah you're right i've encountered many variations of puzzles. too much too type up haha.

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 16:21

#14

Batabii

@zaderules

Solution: have one person responsible for systematically "combing" the level for puzzles/solutions while the others hit the graves.

OR have all four people responsible for one corner of the map so you don't waste time overlapping.

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 16:43

#15

Bopp

Zaderules

Zaderules, your argument in post #13 is fine. But that is not the argument that you're making in the original post. I'm just trying to help you make your original post better. Cheers.

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 17:09

#16

Zaderules

@ Batabii I guess if you want to just have 1 person responsible for that but why don't hit tombstone? I don't understand the word combing, but yeah like if you hit tombstone while you are searching then i have no problem. Because you are being efficient in reaching the ultimate goal: farm sigils.

As for the responsible for 1 corner, it'll be kinda hard without and reference point when you first get dropped onto the map. So you'll probably need like good communication and other stuff like that.

@ Bopp Well thanks I guess. The original post is trying to farm Apocrea fast + efficient. All of my arguments are made to help people farm the level fast + efficient and not waste time by wandering around basically. (If you're being chased by the harvester yes thats a different story)

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 18:23

#17

Glowupball

Yo.

I myself found dropping electron vortexes to break tombstones makes the run much safer. Whatever gets stuck in it is generally easier to kill, whether it be the bomb skellys, scarabs, or the three spirits. Also the EV stays for a few seconds (sometimes acting as a wall of protection) and sucks up stray scarabs, eventually cleaning them up or shocking those that live. (damage ultra EV explosion does a good amount)

Shock goes good with hammer if you did not know, it helps the dash connect (hammer dash itself hits three times). The hammer is good for chasing the spirits too, just make sure you are used to using hammer. (AT helps if you like, but from my experience it has its downfalls.)

I also use Blitz to help clean up the stages before the plateau and EV mixed with blitz is efficient. And this is just my opinion, but I find hammer to be very good against greavers too (I have overall asi ultra on hammer though).

And if you really got a party that listens, you can each start from a different side (the top or bottom or left or right), then work your way to the other side (or maybe just the until you meet up with your teammate/s from the opposite side, if you trust your team can get the desired amount of tombstones in their area).

Ah and a very important piece of advice.

- Advanced mode is not that much less sigils/tokens, if you do not like thinking too hard while you farm or just want to have an easy time farming, then I suggest advanced mode. I'll never understand why people insist on elite when they can't handle it. Imagine being able to rush around because your shield can take more hits and you can bulk more hits. Also, things die faster (or in this case the spirits are saved faster .-. idk are the slags killed again too?) It could arguably help with efficiency, but you decide based on your playstyle.

Remember it's not just how skilled you are, it's how long you can go at that skill level (unless you dont farm for long periods of time like me) and no one is perfect, but with advanced mode, you can mess up a whole lot more. I believe everyone has an easier time on advanced mode, so do it if you want to take it easy.

P.S. If you are crazy obsessed with doing the highest difficulty just to prove how good you are even though no one is watching/cares, then get the excuse ready that you are just helping someone who likes to play on advanced mode, in case someone asks you why you are on advanced mode /winkwink.

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 18:56

#18

Ill-Fate-Ill

Every time that I go to farm Sigils, I am playing when I'm not supposed to which means I can't use a mouse. *click* *click* *click*
Anyway, if I end up joining a noob party, I just rush the whole level, smash all the prize boxes and if it's an arena I force them to do it (4 da radiants bro).
Once we reach the Grasping plateau, I just run around smashing everything, leaving bugs everywhere and every time I get the Harvester following me, I use Shadow Cloak and give it to another guy, but that sometimes fails because I am red bar on the corner of the server and I lag like !@#$.

If I play with my friends or capable people, I would gladly clean up my bugs and help out others, but the sight of people spark begging is priceless.

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 19:22

#19

Zaderules

@ Glowupball Good advice! I will personally try the EV idea. I have EV, I just use voltaic tempest instead because of just general shock. I'll try the EV in elite difficulty. You are awesome! I'll definitely link your post in the OP.

@ Nocturne-Grande yush. the pain is real. THE PAIN. i just use arrow keys and z to go around hack and slash haha. It's understandable with people like that haha.

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 19:23

#20

Zaderules

Fudge Double Post

@ Nocturne-Grande yush. the pain is real. THE PAIN. i just use arrow keys and z to go around hack and slash haha. It's understandable with people like that haha.

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 19:58

#21

Ill-Fate-Ill

Best control setup for my no-mouse Macbook:
W-Move/Face North
A-Move/Face West
S-Move/Face South
D-Move/Face East
E-Weapon 3
Up arrow key-Attack
Down arrow key-Shield
Left Arrow key-Weapon 1
Right Arrow key-Weapon 2
Left Command-Shield Bash
Right Alt-Toggle Auto-target
1,2,3,4- Quickslot 1,2,3,4

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 21:08

#22

Terrifying-Pancake

@Zader You wouldnt know fast

@Zader

You wouldnt know fast and efficient until you get 300 sigils per plateau in 15 minutes.

Stop misleading people with words of your failures. Passing your failures onto the community is pretty lame.

But at least you wont understand. You're stuck in one mindset of joining randoms and yelling and bullying them if they dont follow your majesty's needs in terms of weapons and tactics.

Buddy, you're going nowhere...

Also, don't even try to lie about your post or edit it. You made a failure of a guide, and now you know it. Can't hide from that.

Dom, 06/22/2014 - 22:04

#23

Batabii

@nocturne

Why do I not see "strafe" anywhere on that list?

You can't hit enemies while moving away from them.

Lun, 06/23/2014 - 00:13

#24

Zaderules

@ Nocturne-Grande interesting. you play very different haha.

@ Fettuccine-Alfredo I have done that... because I did it with my friends in my guild... approx 400+ tokens in one area... took a little more than 15 minutes... Yes I do know fast and efficient. Too bad I don't have a pic to prove myself. All I have are my friends that can back me up and confirm. Have you gotten 300 sigils per level? If so, lets see proof? If not, well okay, so you don't know fast + efficient.

What I'm saying here is when you don't always have friends online and you would rather go with a PUG then solo. Have you tried this guide? Do you know what I'm talking about? okay then. If you reply with "why should I try this guide it sucks," well thats your problem. You can't read it and follow it I guess.

Am I misleading people? I've always thought letting people know of one's failures allows people to know and what to expect in the future. Why don't you tell me how I'm misleading people? explain your criticism. I would like to learn from you and make a better guide :D

Yes I am stuck in the mindset of joining random and have them follow what I say because thats what I obviously do every time I join a random party. Yes. please feed me more. I will take in all of your flame for me. Go ahead. I will hug you no matter what :3

Am I going nowhere? I hope not. I hope to help other people reach the maximum amount of tokens that I have achieved with good communication with knowledge. The more knowledge you have, the more informed decisions you can make. Is there something wrong of letting the community know what works for you?

What am I lying about? Am I lying the fact that people are running around not targeting tombstones and just searching for puzzles? I guess I am if you don't take the time to try out a PUG yourself. Am I a good guide maker? By all means no. This is a guide turned from a personal rant of mine. Is this supposed to mean I'm selfish? I guess so. It's a way for people to farm efficiently. Do you think you can farm 300 sigils in 15 minutes by not hitting tombstones and waltzing around for puzzles? Let's see you try! Of course it's not my job to be there and watch you do it. It's just words of encouragement. If you do it, great! Let me know! If not, well there you go. Come hug me. >:D

P.S. Am I misreading this as flaming? Well, my apologies. I don't have much experience with flaming on the internet. Have a good day!

Lun, 06/23/2014 - 01:05

#25

Ill-Fate-Ill

@Batabii

I only shield cancel coz yolo swag

Lun, 06/23/2014 - 03:26

#26

Fehzor

Sometimes I like to join people's parties and rush the party down to apocrea where I will immediatly break all of the tombstones without killing anything.

Then without a word, I just leave and it is the most beautiful thing.

Lun, 06/23/2014 - 04:55

#27

Reto-Da-Liz

How to farm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9qPCPgZ6Sg

Lun, 06/23/2014 - 08:04

#28

Zaderules

@ Fehzor but then like ya get like 0 souls :l

@ Reto-Da-Liz dood. where ya been mate. I miss ya :l

Lun, 06/23/2014 - 09:00

#29

Autofire

You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!

@Zaderules

Well, what I do is find the puzzle, make note of it, and then travel while looking smashing tombstones. If I run across a key, THEN I carry it back.

Also, arsenal matters. What do you use?

Me? When I'm soloing, like usual, I take...

Heavenly Iron Helm
Mercurial Mail (The jelly stuff)
Blackened Crest (Yes it's my best shadow shield :<)
5* Rocket Hammer
Callahan
lvl 95 Drakon with an elemental harness

This is pretty much the best I have for this type of level. Rocket Hammer is great for chasing, as well as taking out Scarabs. Callahan is good for sniping stray souls (or ones that are too close to the Harvester), and also allows me to get Dust Bunnies well. Heavenly Iron is for defense and sword damage boost. (And also for between-levels. I hate fiends.) Merc is for speed...obviously.

Lun, 06/23/2014 - 09:12

#30

Terrifying-Pancake

(No subject)

Lun, 06/23/2014 - 09:14

#31

Terrifying-Pancake

Uh....meant to post

Uh....meant to post something, but site glitched the f out.

Gist of it was GL for farming! Yeah....WHY DOES THIS USE DRUPAL

Lun, 06/23/2014 - 16:19

#32

Shamanalah

my 2 cents

Well your guide is nice but I'd like to improve a biit upon it since my guild is mostly running it (and mostly selling grasping aura, Warriors of Legends).

The best setup is to be in vocal (obviously) or to have good chatter and listenner. If they chat but never listen it's not gonna help.... The first thing to do is to establish where you are on the map, trying to find a wall is the best thing (elevator, keyhole, keys can be great for that since they show up on the radar)

From there someone grab apocrean and go in a corner of the map while the others farm soul. The apocrean can be neutralized by doing square (or circle) around it with a wide path. I usually go for 7-10 tombs till I turn a corner and when you get the hang of it, he will never attack and will be totally useless. The 3 other can then farm on their own happily for you. Sigils are shared and unlike OP said, the 18 tokens are given to everyone and are worth it. But not to the extend of only searching the puzzle and skipping tombs. Do both.

Grab a Voltaic, grab a brandish, chaos set, slap your dmg med sword from your sprite and charge every tomb away!

We usually separate 1 1 2. The one with apocrean has to move at some point so the other can clear the "plagued corner"

Pro tip: Seraphynx shield render the hands useless. Although if they got you the shield is useless but quite useful when activated before getting caught and walking into hands without a care (I usually break tombstone with apo so we clear faster, I pop it whenever souls are nearby and apo wanna hug me).

Maskeraith invisibility can help you AFTER you get caught by Apocrean, which is why most people like him better. If you activate before he attacks you you can even retain the aggro until you get free.

And drakon is similar to Seraphynx, use the spd buff.

Happy hunting! I'M DONE! I got my aura

Mar, 06/24/2014 - 07:09

#33

Theirillusion

If you have sparks, don't finish regular levels or arenas. If you want radiants you should do it with people who are not after sigils.

As for killing the spirits, hammer helps ALOT. But any 3 swing sword should do the trick. I also started using Voltaic Tempest and switched from shadow gear to chaos. Break tombs with the VT, makes it alot easier to finish them before they disappear. You will even have time to finish 6 at once if done properly.

Mar, 06/24/2014 - 22:05

#34

Sandwich-Potato

Or you could use a Blitz Needle/Strike Needle if Rad droughts affect you and kill 1 soul per charge assuming you have good aim.

Mié, 06/25/2014 - 03:58

#35

Theirillusion

While blitz do work, you suffer from immobility while chased by slender.

Mié, 06/25/2014 - 05:26

#36

Iapnez

All Hail Vog

Now, I know I might get a fair bit of flak for this, but I find an amazing sword for opening up tombstones is my lionheart (accompanied by a hammer when scarabs pop out).

You may ask, "Why are you being stupid? That's useless!" Well hear me out.

If you're wearing chaos and something to give you max damage, then you can quickly charge between the tombstones. You hit each tombstone with a charge. If it's souls, yes they're knocked back, but all of them are taken to about 2/3 or 1/2 health. Then you finish them off with your weapon of choice. If it's scarabs, it brings them all to 1/3 damage and knocks them away. Use an arc-swing elemental sword to finish them off. If it's bombies, they're suddenly 6 tiles away from you!

I love it... I giggle every time I hit souls with the charge.

Mié, 06/25/2014 - 12:57

#37

Sandwich-Potato

Why would you bother breaking blocks if you're being chased by the Harvester? It'd be better to just distract it and allow your team members to have a Harvey-free experience.

...Although I guess you could disrupt the Harvester with a Blitz...

Mié, 06/25/2014 - 21:23

#38

Batabii

Pretty sure he can't be "disrupted".

Mié, 06/25/2014 - 21:38

#39

Sandwich-Potato

On the contrary, you can do it with a flash charge. Probably unintended, but still quite fun.

Mié, 06/25/2014 - 23:29

#40

Pandafishie

Run T2 Elite.
Same drop rate as Advanced T3, plus it's a lot faster.

Jue, 06/26/2014 - 00:32

#41

Batabii

What's a "flash charge"?

Also t2 shouldn't be dropping the same tokens as tier 3. It's totally not fair.

Also you can't do lower tier runs unless you join a friend.

Jue, 06/26/2014 - 13:57

#42

Sandwich-Potato

A flash charge is when you unleash any attack (usually a charge, as those have the most significant impact) as soon as your attack speed changes. For example, getting stunned and throwing a Blitz charge at a monster will let you do 2 Blitz charges in the space of 1 on that monster. A safer option is the Maskeraith Deadly Cloak, which adds +6 ASI for a few seconds.

Mié, 07/02/2014 - 00:20

#43

Batabii

Isnt that a glitch? And incredibly unreliable...

Also I thought you meant when you shield before holding the button.

Anyway sorry to bump this thread when the event is already over, but I didn't find it soon enough to reply. Stupid drupal garbage.

Mié, 07/02/2014 - 03:39

#44

Dibsville

Yes, it's a bug/glitch.

"And incredibly unreliable..."

Woah woah woah, no. Flash charging is extremely easy, safe, and very reliable to do. As of right now there are three main ways of flash charging:

Drakon's Ultimate Firestorm, which gives you the attack speed increase.
Recovering from the stun status.
And Maskeraith's Deadly Shadow Cloak.

Now, any good Deadly Shadow Cloak user can tell you that flash charging with it is extremely easy and reliable. It's so reliable that it's not even funny. You literally just let go of the attack button right when your ASI buff ends and you straight-up double your attacks done. It allows for double bomb placement, 6 Divine Avenger swords in one charge and, among other things, 30 shots with a Blitz charge, 15 of which will get an attack damage bonus, allowing upwards of 15000 damage for something as simple as activating the ability and letting go of the charge when your buffs run out. There's nothing about it that's not reliable, it's just broken.

Unless you're doing it by abusing the stun status. Because, you know, stun is still broken.

Mié, 07/02/2014 - 12:58

#45

Batabii

You call a technique that REQUIRES one of two ultimates (which require level 95 or higher mind you), which most players will have a 33% chance of getting (you CAN'T have seraphynx, Drakon MUST have Frenzied Firestorm [I assume that's what you meant], or Maskeraith MUST have Deadly Shadow Cloak) OR getting hit "safe, easy, and very reliable"?

Jue, 07/03/2014 - 04:28

#46

Dibsville

@Batabii

Yes, considering Vengeful Shadow Cloak isn't really worth getting, and although Explosive Firestorm has its uses, people usually go for Frenzying anyway.

When I say reliable, I don't mean every player ever can get it. I mean that if you have access to it, then the fact that it's very quick and easy to pull off makes it a very reliable source of flash charging. The stun status is obviously a bit gimmicky, but you shouldn't be forcing a hit on yourself to be stunned anyway.

Something can be reliable even if setting it up can be a chore or it requires something you may or may not have.

Jue, 07/03/2014 - 22:17

#47

Sandwich-Potato

Don't forget how cool it is when you Sudaruska flash charge, since the screen shakes twice! :D

But yeah, Deadly Cloak just beats its counterpart, and Explosive is gimmicky at best.

Sáb, 07/05/2014 - 14:50

#48

Tech-Star

Ultimate Way to Farm

Necro'd! (Maybe. Last one was 2 days ago).

Mercial Helm.
Mercial Mail.
Omega Shell.
Electron Vortex.
MSI increase or health increase.
Speed + Able to absorb all tentacles + Ultimate Bomb for scattered enemies that don't resist elemental damage.

Too bad I'm T2.
Without a guild (formerly).

Dom, 07/06/2014 - 00:54

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Batabii

I actually started out with MSI very high (merc DEMO > mercurial) but I found it far more useful to use chaos and max out my damage. If you can kill most mobs (including Souls!) in a single blitz charge, running isn't important. If I need to cover ground, I can just Backfire.

Buscar

Guide to successful Apocrean farming fast and efficiently + my ranting