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Mon, 11/04/2013 - 02:58
Aotr's picture
Aotr

A 5 star gun that shoots both cr and ce (if you have no ce it will check and buy 1ce for the current cheapest on the market), the gun is not a upgrade of a 4 star anything, has a 1 in a million chance to appear basil's inventory on any mission/arcade's depth 23 elite difficulty, the gun (not recipe) costs 10 million cr . When fired the bullet (looks like a gold crown) is can't be dodged by any monster due to it's speed, a normal shot always uses 100cr and does 500 normal damage regardless of armour, shield (including the battlepod, snarbolax and player ones), monster or tier, charge attack uses 1ce (or cr equivalent) and will always do 5000 normal damage regardless of armour, shield (including the battlepod, snarbolax and player ones), monster or tier. Firing method is exactly the same as the antigua line, expect instead of six shots per reload you can fire until you run out of crowns, once out of crowns it takes away 1 bar of health per shot until players runs out of sparks(inspired by weapons like the big 100k from AQW and the coin gun from terraria).

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 03:02
#1
Damienfoxy's picture
Damienfoxy
No. Because then people with

No. Because then people with money will truly be pay to win

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 10:38
#2
Misty-Wellington's picture
Misty-Wellington
<insert witty comment here>

Troll thread.

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 14:59
#3
Aotr's picture
Aotr
@Damienfoxy

I don't see how when the chances of getting this is probably much lower than the darkfang shield (and seeing the number of those around,i doubt it'll have any economic influence).

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 15:03
#4
Aotr's picture
Aotr
@Misty-Wellington

How is it a troll thread when I have given thought into keeping it balanced and kept it in theme to the game? (not to mention given examples where it worked fine in other mmo's)

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 15:54
#5
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato
Well, Mr. Aotr.

AQW (and probably terraria) is pretty much P2P after a week or two. Not P2Ping? You might as well jump off a cliff. The death would be faster than the mental agony of watching P2Pers decimating all the monsters before you can hit them.

Also, don't double-post. It's annoying, and it ruins your social status.

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:30
#6
Skyguarder's picture
Skyguarder

This gun is very unbalanced.

-If this weapon is used in LD, everybody could be defeated by someone with this gun quickly. That'll make LD more unbalanced.
-Nobody's going to waste their money to waste crowns use this weapon. Yes, it would cause high damage (unbalanced at the same time). Just imagine someone had this weapon with 100k crs. You're saying that each shot takes away 100 crs. With 100k crs, they would be able to do 1000 shots. It'll be easy to lose crowns.

10 mil crs is overpriced. The weapon is overpowered also.

-1

[EDIT:]

Mon, 11/04/2013 - 16:01
#7
Fangel's picture
Fangel
No.

This weapon doesn't fill a niche, doesn't promote teamwork, and doesn't do anything to make the game any better. Even with its rarity, only the rich would be able to afford it, use it, and obliterate with it. All other weapons in the game you can get as long as you have high enough rank or patience.

Tue, 11/05/2013 - 20:12
#8
Destroyerofthenort's picture
Destroyerofthenort
-i am not even bothering typing that number

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioICCvXxRlc

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 21:14
#9
Qwote's picture
Qwote
Let's balance this

- Make it shoot crowns collected from the level -- Maybe have a special display on the HUD to show the player how much crowns they've collected for that depth.
- Each shot costs x crowns and does x damage
- It has an attack speed that is slower than the Antigua Line
- No reload
- PvE only, since you cannot gain crowns from any PvP games

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 01:51
#10
Aotr's picture
Aotr
@Destroyerofthenort

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyPlhJJNnos

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 19:58
#11
Destroyerofthenort's picture
Destroyerofthenort
Because hands will block a car bumper real well...

look, buddy... i appreciate the outside the box thinking (hinted by the fact that i bothered to drop in), but... seriously, this is bad and you should feel bad for having conducted creative energy and so much writing into it. The prospect of firing off all of your hard-earned money (mind you, after spending an amount that only about 6 people have just to get the thing) is wrong... firing off paid currency, even moreso. (burning off real money every time i shoot all in the name of killing ONE foe... did you take a blow to the head there, or did you just get a bit carried away?)

the Terraria video doesn't do you much good, either. I'm pretty sure anyone will tell you that making this game like others, our majestically crap servers taken to heart, is the surefire way to make them leave. The fact that we aren't other games is what makes people stay, it is because we are different. The fact remains that we are NOT Terraria: we are not a gimmick 2D platformer flash-game-for-20-bucks with guns, and while 90% of anyone who holds a gun uses it by firing off as suppression through glitches or the actual nature of the weapon, we aren't all running about firing off miniguns, either (yes, some people use iron slug. It isn't broken just because polaris is).

And again, we refer to real money... as much as you may take those lovely coins for granted, there is just a lot more value to be spoken of for every last little coin that drops than the ones in Terraria. Every 8k translates into 100 ce. 750 ce translating into 5 bucks leaves us with .66 cents per 8k you earn in SK. and of course, every now and then, you will be able to successfully get into the 100k range on crowns, where people on steam can actually start getting entire GAMES for their hard-earned crowns. Terraria, fire off a coin, what have you lost? absolutely nothing. fire off a few thousand in SK (and trust me, to see practical use above being a novelty, you WILL NEED that much), and you basically end up eventually getting to the point of firing real money.

You seem to identify with other games, so, to put it in analogy; it would be like logging on to the steam workshop and creating a gun for heavy that fired off refined metal that instakilled, but used up 1 refined every time you fired 10 rounds. Assuming you only played for an hour a day, never died, and conserved ammo TO THE LAST, SOLITARY ROUND (but used all of them by the end of a match), in a mere day of games; you would have lost enough for a pair of earbuds... that, to stamp a value, is $32 USD. This suggestion is not really that far from this. It won't work, because the stuff in terraria is literally worthless... but with games which have established trade and interract with the steam trade system, you actually start to clash with the real economy... and get an ACTUAL, monetary value stamped on each of those lovely shines.

So, to sum it up, even the savviest of Jemps and skolver clones would cringe at this. No worries... there is one place that will still house this thing with open arms

Wed, 11/06/2013 - 22:14
#12
Aotr's picture
Aotr
@Destroyerofthenort

Since no admin/devs have eagerly stepped in yet, proves that they are not money (if it's filtered in-game, please don't use it on the forums. Thank you!) that so many updates have seemed to imply.(And "a gimmick 2D platformer flash-game-for-20-bucks with guns" has 2 million more players then SK, what is the world coming to?)

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 00:35
#13
Destroyerofthenort's picture
Destroyerofthenort
That...

... had no connection to anything i said beyond the end point, which in itself was pretty vague... seemed as if the word money was all that registered.

The entire point was that you have created a gun that is fueled by what is basically real money, which is bad. Then used another, unrelated game we shouldn't even attempt to conform to that had it to cite that it works, which is bad.

Now, abridged post added, how's about we actually analyze this with a proper defensive rebuttal or recourse... sell the idea, make it something i want, prove my point wrong; or of course, you can always hit that lovely link above and throw this in to a welcoming home... *grabs popcorn*

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 04:06
#14
Aotr's picture
Aotr
@Destroyerofthenort

Which part is there not to get? The whole point of the thread was to see if anyone important was going to do something when I directly point out OOO's "issues".

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 04:17
#15
Damienfoxy's picture
Damienfoxy
YOUR IDEA IS BAD AND YOU

YOUR IDEA IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 05:05
#16
Red-Right-Hand
lol, no

'Hey guys! Look at this super duper OP (if a word is filtered in-game, please don't use it on the forums. Thank you.) gun i got! **** the world!'
Bad idea man.

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 10:24
#17
Klipik-Forum's picture
Klipik-Forum
._.

"[terraria] is pretty much P2P after a week or two."

no get out.

Oh, and the coin gun in terraria is a joke weapon.
-1

Sun, 11/10/2013 - 22:22
#18
Aotr's picture
Aotr
@Damienfoxy

copy paste?

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