Spiral Knights - unlocking events permanently by DLC

unlocking events permanently by DLC

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Sáb, 03/01/2014 - 13:07

Thunder-The-Bright

people sometimes complain about the fact that events don't cover enough playtime to get all the things you can. they also complain that it's not fair not to get a chance on an event because they can't access SK for reasons. there were suggestions to fix this (namely, put the events in a "very very low chance of happening" while playing, or cycle them more often), so here is mine.

yeah, making them unlockable by paying real money (or ce if OOO decides to be gentle) would be great. at least there would be a way to satisfy everyone. obviously it would work like OCH: you have to get it if you want to join a party in the event level. we could also give more of a use to the expansion tab, since right now it's next to none.

the events should be Shroud of the Apocrea, Grinchlin Assault, Kataclysmic Confrontation and March of the Tortodrones.
March of the Tortodrones should have an attached level in which you can get the glyphs.
Katacysmic Confrontation should be replayable.

Sáb, 03/01/2014 - 16:35

Skepticraven

Question:

Which events?

IMO Save Winterfest would be a horrible mission to unlock via DLC because that allows for farmable slot usables (via the boxes).

Would there be limits on the daily runs? (Ex: Kataklysmic allows one run per day but as many encounters in the arcade during the event - would this be reproduced if the DLC is bought? How would this work?)

I think you need to develop a strategy, list of events that could be bought, and so on.

Dom, 03/02/2014 - 03:19

Krakob

I do not oppose this idea but I wouldn't like to see it added if the costs are going to be silly high or if you can't use E to make purchases. I mean, no event has added even half of the content that O:CH did so I don't see why one would pay more than half of its cost.

@Skepticraven
I'd see this working with March of the Tortodrones, Shroud of Apocrea, and Grinchlin Assault. I don't think it'd work with seasonal events or Kataclysmic Confrontation, though.

Dom, 03/02/2014 - 05:19

Thunder-The-Bright

gods ain't gonna help you, son.

of course winterfest and dark harvest are left out, I didn't even consider them events (they are bound to a strict date, you can't just have the punkin king or impostoclaus get out of nowhere). besides, the tokens they give expire, and there is no use for them since there aren't the appropriate NPCs.
the events should be Shroud of the Apocrea, Grinchlin Assault, Kataclysmic Confrontation and March of the Tortodrones. MotT should have an attached level in which you can get the glyphs, and Kat Confr (yeah, I couldn't use the KC abbreviation) should be replayable.

editing OP...

EDIT: oh, yeah. thanks krakob for reminding me. the Book of Dark Rituals would be unavaiable because the event mission for the Kataclysm is only the mission, not the whole event itself. there is the guaranteed BK encounter, but being guaranteed means it drops nothing.

Dom, 03/02/2014 - 06:01

Vesperaldus

How would it work with MotT

How would it work with MotT though? Unless the Fiendish Glyphs are a permanent drop that everyone can get. Which at that rate, there would be a superabundance of the Glyphs and hence ID cards. People could stock up in the mean time waiting for the next time it comes back. And there would be so many Glyphs in the market that people who had the DLC would be able to get them cheaply. We don't have our own separate mission specifically for Glyph drops either and making one now would be silly.

Dom, 03/02/2014 - 08:11

Thunder-The-Bright

gods ain't gonna help you, son.

"MotT should have an attached level in which you can get the glyphs" is a part of post #3. and OP. thanks for reading.
I was thinking of a drudgery with 100% chance of final mysterious room, btw, so it shouldn't be that bad for the glyph market.

Dom, 03/02/2014 - 13:36

Vesperaldus

I did read it. I just must

I did read it. I just must have missed that part since I do a lot of skimming and I don't remember every last word I do read. But on that note, " We don't have our own separate mission specifically for Glyph drops either and making one now would be silly."

Lun, 03/03/2014 - 08:16

Usevnsevnsixfivfor

+1 but no Save Winterfest! or Punkin King stuff plz

So from the KC event, there would be no page drops?

Lun, 03/03/2014 - 09:22

Thunder-The-Bright

gods ain't gonna help you, son.

the page would drop as the reward of the mission, like the prestige mission that is in the kat event, except it should be repeatable.

Lun, 03/03/2014 - 09:58

Valorai

Heart of Valor

I would buy this. By events, I assume you mean Shroud of Apocrea, Katyclysm and Tortodrones? I think I missed one or two.

Lun, 03/03/2014 - 10:02

#10

Sandwich-Potato

What about Cakestrophe?

How much would each event be? 3200 Energy, like OCH? But then the Deluxe Starter Pack gets 2 events worth.

Lun, 03/03/2014 - 11:05

#11

Neko-Ultima

No, they're called events for

No, they're called events for a reason.

Lun, 03/03/2014 - 13:30

#12

Krakob

@Sandwich Potato

The Caketastrophe was a celebration of SK's anniversary and is thus bound to already known dates, just like Winterfest and Dark Harvest.

Lun, 03/03/2014 - 18:04

#13

Klipik-Forum

I think this would be bad for OOO in the long term, since events are used as a vehicle to drive traffic of returning and new players to SK. If you can just buy access to them, they wouldn't bring back veterans. Not to mention, BKC would be the most widely used and OP thing in existence.

Lun, 03/03/2014 - 18:07

#14

Fehzor

Black Kat Cowl is already the most widely used and OP thing in existence..

Lun, 03/03/2014 - 18:10

#15

Klipik-Forum

Most OP yes. Most widely used, only among LD elite veterans. Most people can't actually afford one.

Mar, 03/04/2014 - 05:52

#16

Thunder-The-Bright

the Book of Dark Rituals

the Book of Dark Rituals would be unavaiable because the event mission for the Kataclysm is only the mission, not the whole event itself. there is the guaranteed BK encounter, but being guaranteed means it drops nothing.
quote from: post #3

I have no idea about pricing, actually. to me it could range from 3kce to 6kce for all of them.

No, they're called events for a reason.

trying to quote fehz: it's pretty dumb to put effort in something you close off after a while. if they would be unlockable, they could be more enjoyable.

We don't have our own separate mission specifically for Glyph drops either and making one now would be silly.

I disagree. that's all I've got.

I don't think veterans have that much ce in their storage to use like that. besides, it would make them stick around a bit in crafting new things, and maybe they could remain a little bit more.

Mié, 03/05/2014 - 13:47

#17

Headhonchoburnside

neat idea ~ I like it +1

Cool idea. For me, the events help make the SK world somehow feel a tiny bit "larger", but with them being taken away with the thought that they may come back at some point, it feels more like a manipulation of how big the SK world is or could be.

I thought OCH as DLC was a neat idea and I bought it immediately. But, I wonder what sort of feedback they got at that time -- did a lot of players cry out "SK is now pay-to-win"? I could definitely see that happening. Some players opt to not spend money (for many various reasons) and they may see this as simply letting players who decide to spend money to "get ahead". So yes, perhaps making it available for both $/CE would be best.

All in all, I'd like SK to have more levels to run, and adding these events as a permanent feature would be a great way to make SK a bigger world.

Neat idea -- I like it.

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unlocking events permanently by DLC