Spiral Knights - Fixing Radiant Crystals and making arcade more fun

Fixing Radiant Crystals and making arcade more fun

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Sun, 04/27/2014 - 12:00

Blitzsonic

OOO increased the Radiant Crystal droprate, yet it's still hard to get them. The old droprate was nice if you wanted to get Radiants because they dropped mostly from the start(with some shining) of Tier 3, but that made it hard to get the 4* crystals. So we got recipes for crafting 4* out of 5*.
For some reason OOO thought that it would be a good idea to start the drop of 5* crystals on the later second half of tier 3.
This is a bad idea because you'll need to play tier 3 a lot to fully heat your 5* armor and you need to play the complete tier 3, which is fun because it takes a time to get to the later depths and your 5* armor is WEAKER than your 4* armor if it isn't level 6 or higher.
So I got this little idea:
Why not add a new startpoint after the terminal of each tier ?
One at depth 5
depth 14
depth 24
and a terminal before getting to the end of the tier:
depth 7(sells 2* recipes)
depth 17(sells 4* recipes)
depth 29(sells 5* recipes)

This way you can reach the later parts of a tier easier and the firecrystal drops could be changed like they used to be:
Depth 0-4 gives 1*
Depth 5-7 gives 2*
Depth 8-13 gives 3*
Depth 14-17 gives 4*
Depth 18-29 gives 5*

This way you would get the right crystals if you played arcade. 4* gear needs to be heated up to level 10, so it would make sense to get some crystals in tier 2. Tier 3 would probably have 4* crystals for the first few depths, but mixed with 5* crystals and a lot of 5* crystals on the later depths.

Sun, 04/27/2014 - 16:17

Agenta

Or you can just

Or you can just run the missions that are in that stratum.

Sun, 04/27/2014 - 19:25

Dibsville

No to the terminals idea...

As for the crystals, how about

Depth 0-3 gives 0*
Depth 3-7 gives 1*
Depth 7-13 gives 2*
Depth 13-17 gives 3*
Depth 17-24 gives 4*
Depth 24-30 gives 5*

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 03:35

Blitzsonic

So you want to make the core

So you want to make the core useless ? There is no point in going down there and it takes forever to get to the stratum extra terminals give the player a reason to play a full tier and not only until you reached the terminal and extra elevators from haven to the middle of a tier help with finding the right crystals. That was the problem with the original system.
Noone wanted to play the complete tier2 for 4* crystals and now we can't get 5* crystals.
Back when 4* crystals were rare you could do missions to get them but almost everyone said that the 4* ones were too rare. Now we have the same problem with 5*, and there aren't even that good 5* missions, the only good one is probably vana, which is fun, yay vana farming, playing the longest map in the game over and over again and then hope to get lucky on 5* crystals, because even after the fix you still get 4* crystals from the first few depths, so only like the 2 or 3 last ones can drop 5* and even the boss depth can have 4* crystals.
What if there are compound levels which are already hard and even more difficult with unheated 5* gear ? That's an other point on why there should be more elevators to start arcade instead of having to wait forever. I don't see a reason to not agree with this.

The current crystal droprate is almost like that, exept that depth 0-3* gives 1*. The problem is that depth 24 still has some 4* crystals and it takes some levels for 5* to drop. Depth 24-30 is only 5 levels, that and the 4* droprate there.
You can get 0* and 1* crystals from one of the NPCs in haven without getting energy, he sells it for crowns. There aren't a lot of tier 1 missions , tier 1 LD is almost dead and you get a lot of gear that can't be crafted into something, so heating 0* or 1* items isn't even needed.

Tier 2 is where the heating is needed, the player should get some 2* crystals from tier 1 and you probably find some 2* crystals while getting the 3* crystals that are needed. The second half gives 4* crystals so you already have some, you would find some 3* crystals here to level up you gear to level 5 if you haven't done already or if you are missing a few crystals.

Now you are ready for Tier 3. You found some 4* crystals in tier 2, so you can heat the first few levels of your gear. Because of how the crystal drop system works, you will get mostly 5* but also some 4* crystals at the beginning of tier 3, later on you get 5* crystals to heat your 5* gear to level 10. 5* gear needs the most crystals so it probably should have the most depths that drop it.

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Fixing Radiant Crystals and making arcade more fun