That sucks, can I have your stuff?

iGN: Betrael

"I don’t like jack to other player’s game but it is the best way to make sure you have a profitable run."

I don't quite understand your problem, doing runs is as it been all the time, the CR energy market price didn't grow too much - energy gates, revives, elevator fees, all those run related costs are the same as they were. Don't make up issues that don't exist. In need of crowns? Sell the excess amount of materials instead of hoarding them, then you'll surely make 5-8k per tier run (which will cost you 70 energy).

I was an idiot. I should be compensated for my idiocy!

Yes... Yes... I agree, sir.

I'm cold-hearted, but I do extremely polite and decent things.

I can't help but think that doesn't make any sense.

That doesn't hold up with the original post. He referred to handing back extra change as a decent and polite gesture, contradictory to a cold-hearted nature, ignoring he's saying it should be a common courtesy to do so rather than the law of his country, wherever that might be.

I was a little surprised that no one seems to be saying he clearly got taken advantage of

He did. It is overshadowed by his completely arbitrary reason for leaving.

and if I were the other guy, I'd feel pretty bad.

Breaking News! Everybody is different! People are jerks! Fire is hot! More at 11.

@ the OP

out of curiosity, how much did you actually lose on this deal gone wrong?

"Breaking News! Everybody is different! People are jerks! Fire is hot! More at 11."

People are jerks? yea, your a good example of that-

he never asked for compensation he was just trying to solve this mistake and once he find out there was nothing he could do, he gave up, he didnt keep on complaining, he didnt push the problem any further all he did was share his bad experience so hopefully us wouldnt make the same mistake, us that still hold some hope for this game (which keeps on getting worst with every update) wont leave it.

...freaking trolls...

btw u should learn what sarcasm is then come back and keep on trolling us, at least next time you would look just look like a jerk and not like an ignorant.

Being sarcastic and snide is what constitutes as trolling these days? The times sure have changed.

at least next time you would look just look like a jerk and not like an ignorant.

Ironic.

Needless to say we are all human (unless ur a very very smart dog, cat parrot or w/e) we make mistakes, its a game we might be thinking something different and click the wrong button it happens... something u lose something small sometimes u lose something big.
so in short you should be thankful that he is sharing his misfortune with us so we can learn to be more careful while trading in this game

@Dirt, Replicant

ima gonna laugh hard when u make a simple mistake...even if you dont share with other so others can learn from your mistakes, and there is no possible way i can know of ur failure, im still gonna be laughing at you. (just remember that next time u fail...im laughing at u)

btw there is no actual definition for what a troll is, since its something internet born it means a lot of things, so yea u look like a troll to me and an ignorant...and a jerk ofc.

ima gonna laugh hard when u make a simple mistake...even if you dont share with other so others can learn from your mistakes, and there is no possible way i can know of ur failure, im still gonna be laughing at you. (just remember that next time u fail...im laughing at u)

Ouch. My feelings.

btw there is no actual definition for what a troll is

Yes, there is. There's a pretty clear definition.

so yea ur look like a troll to me and an ignorant

You use those words, but they do not mean what you think they mean.

Sarcasm can be good in moderation, but can be misconstrued as trolling by people who don't understand sarcasm, so Replicant...I think your sarcasm is fine for now, but I'm sure you've had many instances of people overreacting to your posts. It's par for the course with people like us.

Poe's law never fails.

btw there is no actual definition for what a troll is, since its something internet born it means a lot of things, so yea u look like a troll to me and an ignorant...and a jerk ofc.

Since originally 'troll' comes from 'someone who trolls' - (taken as a fishing metaphor from 'trolling for .. ') for posting controversial or inflammatory comments where many people will see it in an attempt to create an uproar or flame war. So then, a troll is someone who does such a thing. Some people would like to say that a 'real troll' is only someone who pretends to controversial opinions and doesn't actually hold them, but that's a fairly useless notion since we can't know what another person's opinion truly is in their heart of hearts.

In any case, posting a snarky comment to one person might be -flamebaiting- (trying to get a rise out of one particular person, not the world in general), but it's certainly not -trolling-.

A more detailed definition is here: http://jargonwiki.com/wiki/Troll

Just because it started on the internet doesn't mean it doesn't have a definition.

Have you tried talking to one of his guild mates(preferably one with the power to kick him out)? I'm fairly certain that they don't like the idea of a guild member cheating someone out CE. It may be a slap-on the wrist but, it's better than him patting himself on the back.

That sucks. It happened to me also but it was a petty amount so I let it slide. Now if it was a big amount, well, that would be a different matter.

In "real" life this would not slide at all. The person would be in a big altercation and the >>authorities<< called or someone would get stabbed/shot. In this case OOO is the ruler of the land and should have the power to help you out. Even if it was a mistake by the OP, normally there would be some way to get it back. Many games have ways to resolve these kinds of issues with helpful GMs on a ticketing system that can access the backend. What's the purpose of GM if not to help players out.

Hopefully you can get someone to help you (and if you got screen shots). Keep at it and see where it leads. And if all fails...

You can come to a conclusion that:
Sloppy design with no logs, tracking, or they just don't give a sh** (they cut corners on personnel until they really need it; here's looking at you PR). Either way, good luck elsewhere. Plenty of other F2P games to play.

by no actual definition i mean it is differently interpreted by different communities

here you go 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29

and here 2. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll

hell even this is trolling 3. http://artoftrolling.memebase.com/

and of course 4. http://skepacabra.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/do-not-feed-the-troll.png

his original post was this
"I was an idiot. I should be compensated for my idiocy!

Yes... Yes... I agree, sir."

so this person falls into this category

quote-
"1c. Noun
A member of an internet forum who continually harangues and harasses others. Someone with nothing worthwhile to add to a certain conversation, but rather continually threadjacks or changes the subject, as well as thinks every member of the forum is talking about them and only them. Trolls often go by multiple names to circumvent getting banned."

from the second link in this post.

hes clearly using the straw man fallacy since he is distorting the actual position in which xbigbobx is, he is not asking for compensation he was just trying to solve his problem, there was nothing he could do, the end. Replicant flat out call him an idiot when its clear that xbigbobx merely made a simple mistake (which could happen to any1 since we are all humans)

keeping this in mind u could say that i am a troll since now the original topic of this thread has completely changed. so HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! im a troll and i just did my job today.

btw @Replicant i was trolling since 2 posts ago, since you dont quite rise and argument backed up with any kind of actual information your just no material for debate so i just reduced that to a troll discussion

oh and another thing, getting under my use of language is stupid since english is not my first language and thus im bound to make a mistake or two (lol) i would like to see you debate on a spanish or french forum see how u do there.

-google ftw-

EDIT: after actually going tru the definition that Senshi provided i found something interesting

"1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that they have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand"

note "personal attacks, for no other reason than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion."

there you go... you should read what you provide before posting it, it could come back to hit you on the rear.

what would this world come to, if u were rewarded for ur stupidity o.O

and also why on earth would u insert CE and click on confirm??

learn from ur mistakes..

This isn't 100% correct, I accidentally put in buy 6x 100CE for 5965 when I meant to do 4965... I wish they did have an are you sure button for thinking twice..

I accidentally sold a Vog Cub Cap recipe for 40 Crowns instead of 40,000 Crowns, in the Auction House today - bit disappointing, instead of making 15k I lost 25, but I move on, keep playing, won't cry about it :)

"Allow me to give you another example. Suppose you press wrong button for buying a recipe from the Action house. Instead of paying 32,500 for a recipe, you paid 325,000 for it. How do you complain about such action or a way to resolve the problem?"

You can't. No one broke the rules. You made a mistake, you tried to work it out with the other party and they took advantage of your mistake. You'd hope that people would see the mistake and correct it themselves, but frankly this is the Internet. It's made people basically unaccountable for their actions. Unless they have their own self-governing morals to guide them you can't expect anything different.

Also the disclaimer is there to tell you that they aren't going to do anything about your problem. It's there to set reasonable expectations of a response. Of course everyone would like the gorey details of the outcome of every complaint. We all want to see that d-bag go down in flames, but in reality that just can't happen. For one the other person deserves as much privacy as you do and OOO has in game mechanisms from preventing what happened already. You're asking for them to reverse potentially hundreds of transactions since the report. So if that person has already spent all your energy on crafting should they then also revoke all those items? What if they already sold some of the crafted items to other people?

This situation sucks, but in reality there is nothing that OOO should be obligated to do other than what they've already done, which is provide a safe environment that has mechanisms in place to protect people. Which they do...