Spiral Knights - Why are Most of T3 events & etc. Shadow themed?

Why are Most of T3 events & etc. Shadow themed?

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Tue, 09/30/2014 - 12:34

Hinotan

Let's think about it. Most of them are shadow themed in some way.

Danger Missions that have shadow theme: Legion of Almire, Heart of Ice, Ghost in the Machine
Events: Shroud of the Apocrea, Black Kats, Fiendish Tortodrone Invasion, Dark Harvest, Winterfest*
Boss: Firestorm Citadel

Then there's everything else:

Danger Mission: Compund 42
Events: Winterfest*, Caketastrophe
Boss: Crimson Hammer

What gives? Where's the T3 monster homing wolvers from yore?
Oh yeah they got turned into shadow fiend Gorgos...

Tue, 09/30/2014 - 12:44

Klipik-Forum

Because Shadow is Eeeeeevil!

Also, the Swarm is normal damage. So there's that.

Tue, 09/30/2014 - 12:44

Vohtarak-Forum

im vohtarak

I thought the exact same thing

and dont forget the champion missions r mainly shadow too

Tue, 09/30/2014 - 12:48

Holy-Nightmare

The tortodrones throw all

The tortodrones throw all damage types at you but yes it was initiated by shadow type monsters. I'm still hoping for a Jelly green giant event or something mained by something other than shadow monsters.

Tue, 09/30/2014 - 13:20

Skepticraven

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Caketastrophe - A gremlin in knead = elemental
Caketastrophe - Total Caketastrphe! = normal
Shadow lairs = 2 pierce, 1 elemental, 1 shadow
Save winterfest = elemental+shadow (listed as winterfest* is not shadow - initiated by gremlins and devilites)
Grinchlin Assault = elemental (listed as winterfest)

I think you are missing/have errors on a few.
That being said about 50% of T3 is shadow.

Tue, 09/30/2014 - 13:27

Vohtarak-Forum

im vohtarak

grinchlin is a mix of a lot, it has humbugs for example

his point is there are more shadow things in comparison to others (10 shadow, 8 other pointed out)
do u see it now

Tue, 09/30/2014 - 13:33

Bopp

not exactly

Why do you call Ghosts in the Machine shadow-themed? It's undead and constructs, and the constructs are the bigger threat.

Your other points are essentially correct. Shadow monsters disproportionately occupy the higher missions. (Terminal Meltdown and the Great Escape are notable exceptions.)

Tue, 09/30/2014 - 13:36

Vohtarak-Forum

im vohtarak

although its a mix, there are more undead than construct by my findings

Tue, 09/30/2014 - 13:43

Skepticraven

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"although [ghosts in the machine is] a mix, there are more undead than construct by my findings"

Unless you continually spawn more of the undead bombs, the quantity of elemental and shadow spawned monsters are about the samel. The undead ones just respawn making it seem like there are more.

"grinchlin is a mix of a lot, it has humbugs for example"

Vast majority (~60-80%) of the monsters that spawn are elemental. Check the wiki for all monsters that spawn if you've forgotten. All damage types are represented there.

Tue, 09/30/2014 - 13:57

Hinotan

It's me Paintool

Double fault.

Maybe I'm wrong and T3 whatnot has just a fair amount of shadow.

There's just a distinct lack of wolvers everywhere in the above listed.
We need a VOG themed event of some kind.

Tue, 09/30/2014 - 14:00

#10

Skepticraven

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The interesting part about danger missions is...

Shadow = LoA
Shadow + Elemental = GitM
Shadow + Pierce = HoI
Elemental + Pierce = C42

Tue, 09/30/2014 - 15:03

#11

Vohtarak-Forum

im vohtarak

no I dont respawn enemies yet I still find more undead

I didnt say that grinchlin assault had mainly non elemental, just that it's a mix

Tue, 09/30/2014 - 16:26

#12

Bopp

wolvers

There's just a distinct lack of wolvers everywhere in the above listed.

Heart of Ice is loaded with them, as has already been discussed.

In general, beasts are the easiest monster family in this game, and fiends are the hardest. And the top missions are supposed to be hard. These two facts account for much of the trend that you've noticed.

Tue, 09/30/2014 - 16:35

#13

Fehzor

Because those nefarious beasts, slimes, and construct just don't have what it takes to be evil, while the gremlins are already busy with their Herex subplot, as well as their grinchlin assaulting.

Tue, 09/30/2014 - 21:43

#14

Turn-Me-On

@Bopp I gotta disagree, I

@Bopp

I gotta disagree, I think slimes are the easiest, followed closely by undead.

Fiends are definitely the most difficult though.

Tue, 09/30/2014 - 22:27

#15

Exerpa

3 of the 4 danger missions

3 of the 4 danger missions are grouped to effective damage type, not defense.
Piercing for HoI, Elemental for GitM and Shadow for C42.

Wed, 10/01/2014 - 04:20

#16

Forum-Brady

*sigh* I remember when beasts

*sigh*

I remember when beasts were harder. Poor guys just stuck with the "easiest monsters in the game" rep, or the idea that they "don't know how to attack and turn" anymore.

Poor guys. Someone should just put them out of their misery.

Wed, 10/01/2014 - 04:22

#17

Vohtarak-Forum

im vohtarak

I find it annoying that they removed "attack and turn" on every enemy but fiends, who actually needed it

Wed, 10/01/2014 - 05:10

#18

Spark-Of-Hope

lol

I've been over this we need a gremlin based event

Wed, 10/01/2014 - 19:58

#19

Euclidean-Space

Well that answers your question then, not all the T3 events and missions are shadow themed, just a majority. Bad word choice in my opinion.

Wed, 10/01/2014 - 20:22

#20

Hinotan

It's me Paintool

Fixed and updated. ^

Wed, 10/01/2014 - 20:35

#21

Trats-Romra

I've been over this we need a gremlin based event

No, we need a beast based event.

Wed, 10/01/2014 - 21:47

#22

Klipik-Forum

Darkbrady :o

No major T3 content can ever be beast-based, because Blitz and DBB and Acheron chew through beasts like nobody's business. It would be a cakewalk.

Thu, 10/02/2014 - 06:16

#23

Bopp

and piercing swords

...and Final Flourish/BTB, and Gran Faust, and Dark Retribution. But DBB in particular means that I don't have to pay any attention while fighting beasts.

Fri, 10/03/2014 - 12:37

#24

Trats-Romra

If it's beast based event, isn't necessary to involve just the monsters we have in game. OOO could design and develop beast(s) that are specific to the event, difficult ones to beat. And I said "beast", simply because we don't have too much things based on beasts on game. And I'm just dreaming. I can dream, right?
I know that people like very much of gremlins, but there's a major lack of beasts on game than any monsters. There's no beast that is interesting to fight, except Snarbolax and Rabid Snarbolax.

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Why are Most of T3 events & etc. Shadow themed?