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Alright fans of spiral knights time to learn the truth behind this game!!!

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Thu, 10/23/2014 - 04:24
Xxdarkridexx

Ok so, we have seen that the game has a nice set of weapons and reskins we give it that and the armor has a somewhat good collection but what about the weapons huh???!!

To begin with. The so called "Gunner Update" will never come... the only thing you're ever gonna see in this game is costumes and crap reskins.

Speaking of which... are we ever going to see this game get anything else BUT costumes and skins??? we've got tons of em...

So if you have already spent money on costumes and therefore this game you are HIGHLY cheated my friend... cos.. what's the point of buying costumes as they do not give you a single thing!!!

To end this game has no collection of weaponry... no collection of armory... its not interactive and only has few bosses including shadow lairs and prestige missions and therefore has no real value...

So think about it... is it really worth playing a game that you basically don't play? But dress up for a beauty contest instead??

EDIT: The game itself is not really a game since most people i saw just show off costumes... the game is TOO SHORT HAS TOO LITTLE WEAPONRY AND THEREFORE SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A GAME AT ALL ITS JUST MAKING YOU WASTE MONEY ON COSTUMES AND RESKINS!!!

RE EDIT: Guys listen... the game itself has few content when it comes to gear and monsters... only 12 bosses max... around 35 swords including the lower star weps and the only releases they had were reskins and costumes... the only weapons that differ are event only and therefore cannot be obtained unless you were at the event... so you tell me there is new content that keeps the game fresh right people? where is the content cos all i see is costumes accessories and mainly skins... -.-"

FINAL EDIT: Most of you that still freakin shout for that post well you are still wrong... in the past few months i have seen the updates of spiral and all i saw was costumes and believe me the developers have pleeeenty more money cos they're being funded by fucking SEGA!!!!! Also for those who still say that tf2 is the same... think again... because in tf2 at least the game keeps getting updated with newer weps unlike spiral... also the game's trading and economy system make it possible for anyone to make profit and get almost anything for free so long as they have patience and courage...

So all the things you said make no logical sense and therefore you still do not understand what a game must be like...

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 05:13
#1
Neinhart's picture
Neinhart

[citation needed]

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 05:22
#2
Keepscaite's picture
Keepscaite
Okay, so? ....Is that

Okay, so?

....Is that it?

That's not very bad at all...

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 06:03
#3
Asdfhasdga's picture
Asdfhasdga

I cri evertim

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 06:49
#4
Thunder-The-Bright's picture
Thunder-The-Bright
algorithms are the solutions to any problem.

except this game has content, but not new content. this isn't becoming a dressup game, it's just stale and immobile, content-wise. until there will be a game, there will be some amount of interactivity. the fact you don't enjoy it it's another point entierly.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 08:19
#5
Whimsicality's picture
Whimsicality

Tell SEGA to hire some developers already so OOO doesn't have to make their hard-working art designers struggle to make the whiny babies cry more quietly.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 08:27
#6
Fangel's picture
Fangel
Pretty much what I expected.

I saw the username layout, then the writing style. Knew exactly what the thread was going to say before I finished the first line.

The game's content stretches pretty far. Randomization in a game keeps it fresh and newer, so the arcade is a great place to go to. Many players who joined after battlesprites seem to want to rush to the end of the game, however end-game isn't all that great.
The game's content is pretty vast. We have 4 randomized gates with a randomized level from a list on every floor, unless it's a boss floor. Then we have the mission set, which follows a storyline that players almost never follow along with either because they just want to hit stuff. The mission levels must be run in order to advance, and give access to an array of levels.

Basically, there is a lot of game that you seem to be ignoring when you say this is a dress-up game. There is a vast arsenal of weapons, armors, and shields to suit any and every playstyle and situation. New weapons and gear have been released alongside reoccurring events in the past year.

0/10, not a great post.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:33
#7
Agentz's picture
Agentz
BLARGH

So you don't like this game. /point Door ~Z

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 12:18
#8
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

It's just a game... wait-

"THEREFORE SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A GAME AT ALL"

Well, I guess there really isn't any understanding between us then :/

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I've already brought this up, but I guess I'll keep bringing it up every time this happens because it's not like it's going away at any point in much the same way as these "game is dead!" type threads.

This overstated viewpoint is very likely held because SEGA hasn't been talking to us at all about the event. There is no monthly "Here are some cool pics of the update or an update, which IS coming in the future." or even just basic answers to the questions that are brought up not by various players, some forum regulars and some not.

Of course, this brings us back to the rebirth example. Did Edmund McMillen have people saying that rebirth (set to launch Nov. 4, 2014) is canceled and seriously believing/thinking it? No. People even started a rumor as a joke, but that died quickly. Why aren't people angry at him for taking over a year to produce the new content? Because he knows how to deal with social media in a positive way and is excited for his own development, something that SEGA is apparently incapable of. He also didn't have to/want to nickle and dime players with prize boxes at every turn, who originally made less than five dollars per copy of their game sold.

Here's how he does it, as an example: https://twitter.com/EdmundMcMillenn

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:07
#9
Chaolin-Drake's picture
Chaolin-Drake
Oh boy this thread again

You ask for this

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:42
#10
Yagballs's picture
Yagballs
True. Especially those

True. Especially those Lionheart people just brag their costumes to each other with zero skills.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:56
#11
Mystrian's picture
Mystrian

I ate food.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 11:31
#12
Avihr's picture
Avihr
^

... good.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 11:50
#13
Vohtarak-Forum's picture
Vohtarak-Forum
I'm vohtarak, call me by that name

this is a more ragey looking sk is dead threads

and even if your common sense is worse than your grammar you should know to look for/comment on another thread instead of making a new one

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 12:14
#14
Holy-Nightmare's picture
Holy-Nightmare
Still better than most

I still like this more than the last game I used to play.

It was very Pay to win, updates weekly with new weapons (but recycled damage tables) and story (that is poorly animated), and laggy......

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 12:30
#15
Abelisk's picture
Abelisk
b

This xxdarkridexx guy probably came from RuneScape to boast about that game's content vs. SK's content. Thing is RuneScape has oldie graphics and for full content membership must be purchased.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 12:45
#16
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Gbot-Vtwo
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@yagballs You have no skills. And apparently you didn't meet the rest of the guild. The ones that brag either get kicked out for a reason they caused, because nobody would join them In 1 lousy mission, or they leave.

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 11:55
#17
Blitz-Winger's picture
Blitz-Winger
I feel like this is appropriate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LPlUYbabqk

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:08
#18
Ganzfeld-Effect's picture
Ganzfeld-Effect
The only truth here is how

The only truth here is how biased the tone is. Tell me, can I get the winning lottery ticket numbers for next time since you seem to know everything?

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:11
#19
Vohtarak-Forum's picture
Vohtarak-Forum
I'm vohtarak, call me by that name

this thread was dying y u gotta bring it back

Sat, 10/25/2014 - 12:22
#20
Ganzfeld-Effect's picture
Ganzfeld-Effect

Slight "devil's advocate" territory.

Just as certain people may see the first post and believe it, so too will people see the comments and realize it's just nonsense.

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 17:36
#21
Fastdinoturtle's picture
Fastdinoturtle
Long post

Tf2 is game about shooting people. Tf2 have more cosmetics than SK.
More people play tf2 than sk on daily average. Some people spend 100+ Dollars on tf2. People just spend at the most 30 dollars at sk.

Considering this have been a f2p game since it began, it going to need a self funding system, ok? If it wasn't for the costume spam this game would of died long ago.

At the last part if your statement you said " no weapons blah blah no armoury blah. Blah few bosses blah blah Game worthless"

The fun part Is it mechanics and it's the only legend of Zelda style MMO type game, It's new take on a old classic.

The part about people showing off costumes and you stating it's not a game? Lol they play the game Keep note that NOT everyone buys costumes. It's not making you "buy" these costumes and they offer no I game bonuses.

The part where you said "35 swords ....... Yadadadadadada"

Yes 35 swords But why didn't you include The guns and Bombs? And you mainly see people mainly with there costumes, are you sure there costumes? Maybe there 5 ster_ armours? Besides the people buy the costumes to directly support the devs

Plzs think harder next time you make a post like this

Hl3 triangles have 3 corners. Illumnati is a triangle. Hl3 is made by valve. Valve = ILLUMNATI

I rate this post 4/20

Sun, 10/26/2014 - 23:40
#22
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

People just spend at the most 30 dollars at sk.

I'm pretty sure someone out there has to be purchasing all of these prize boxes.

I found 5 of a 1/2,100 odds item (confirmed to be so via the game masters, as I questioned the odds due to a lack of similar 1/2,100 drops), indicating that at least around 10,500 prize boxes are expected to be found. This only accounts for people that I know too.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 03:06
#23
Lady-Of-War's picture
Lady-Of-War

[citation needed]

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 07:04
#24
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Um. The 5 prismatic pylons that I saw in game, and confirmation from a GM that they do have a 1/2100 drop chance? I only said we should expect that many boxes to have been opened.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:05
#25
Fastdinoturtle's picture
Fastdinoturtle
Counter argument

Ok ok... But if you have nothing good to say about a game, please don't go to the forums and yell it out, we all know that the
cosmetics don't do anything and make us look fabulous. Seriously just please don't go the forum and Write this stuff.

I'm not saying your right though.

A bunch of people already made threads like this (also me) and your pretty much asking the same exact question over and over again
Or trying to convince the public this game sucks. Your pretty much saying "omg this game sucks it's short and didn't give us major update in months there giving us too much cosmetics wow forcing us to pay don't play this game, omg 75 weapons why don't they give us more weapon, gunner update Nvr going to come out"

Lots of people don't Buy costumes. Why do you need weapons?

Ok ok if you still don't think your argument is invalid, the arts department of SK are done for the gunner update, the only reason it's not out is for Testing server/bug fixes. So the arts department of sk probably just did the costumes updates. Also you can trade stuff in sk in steam or the game.

Man the forums really needs a place for posts like this.

P.S weapons do drop u know, since last major update

4/20 this thread wants to make me do meth.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 16:29
#26
Holy-Nightmare's picture
Holy-Nightmare
Basically

TF2 aka Hat simulator is a solid game, as is Spiral knights. So why is TF2 bigger?

Basically it is about the intended audience, TF2 caters to the older gamer both visually and in mechanics, Spiral knights on the other hand is visually oriented towards younger players but endgame missions are aimed more towards those with better motor functions, reaction times, forethought, etc; basically the end gameplay is aimed at older gamers. This means that few older gamers will give SK a chance and until they get to the endgame they will find it relatively easy. Young gamers that play SK will play until the monsters can't be killed very easily,(T1 mentality in Vana will get you killed by regular Slags).

Another reason is connectivity, TF2 doesn't have much lag on their servers, SK on the other hand can have debilitating lag at moments, it takes a truly patient gamer to get through these moments.

TF2 has a very balanced class system and both new and old players have a chance at killing each other, in this game the only factor is skill and team coordination. SK PVP is heavily unbalanced towards the paying player as they can get power, speed, and defense buffs that F2P players must spend a long time to grind out; this often leaves those new to PVP feeling useless and beat down and oftentimes they never return to PVP.

Mon, 10/27/2014 - 20:42
#27
Solotron
ummm.... yyyyeeeaaaaa...

/claps steadily , bravo!... Ooh so many arguments, it's not a thread without separating morality from ego.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 11:50
#28
Jmmoormann's picture
Jmmoormann
/applaud

Content of this thread:

-Complaining about a great game
-Complaining about costumes. WITHOUT COSTUMES THEY WOULD HAVE TO IMPLEMENT OVERPOWERED PREMIUM WEAPONS AND ARMOR TO KEEP THE GAME RUNNING!!!!!
-Some kind of idiot statement about our guild Lionheart (probably just jealousy...)
-The statement that this game is too short. THERE IS NO GAME WITH INFINITE STORYLINE, SK AT LEAST HAS RANDOMIZING!!!
-Some stupid comparisons with other P2W games. There is exactly 1 premium weapon that doesn't have a similar free version: the Mixmaster, and that is not such as overpowered that everybody who owns it wins and all others lose.
-And some more stupid stuff

If you don't like the game, than either stop playing or give some serious feedback. This thread is pathetic, useless, purposeless and destructive.

-9999999/10

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 12:02
#29
Holy-Nightmare's picture
Holy-Nightmare
@ Jmmoormann

Actually the Celestial Saber (better than leviathan blade), Celestial Shield (perfect for Snarby Shadow lair), Overcharged Mixmaster (goes through walls), and Power Mitt (perfect for Vana runs) are premium weapons with no F2P counterpart.

There is also the Tri-Guard set (perfect defensive T1 LD gear) Red Saber, Chilling Duelist, Static flash, and Green Ward.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 12:39
#30
Jmmoormann's picture
Jmmoormann
@ Holy-Nightmare

-Celestial saber has a 25% chance of inflicting stun on the charge attack only, not such as OP
-Power Mitt is a reskin
-Celestial shield and mixmaster are interesting, but they are not a must have and the gunner update will probably implement similar guns.
-And the last 5: if you want to pay a lot of money to be able to win T1 LD, then yeah. Else: no

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 12:49
#31
Holy-Nightmare's picture
Holy-Nightmare
@ Jmmoormann

Celestial Saber is a straight upgrade from Leviathan blade, it deals the same damage plus a status

Power mitt is not a reskin
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Power_Mitt

http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Heater_Shield

While the values are the same you have to notice that the Power mitt protects from fire and the Heater Shield protects from freeze.

The overcharged mixmaster is still broken
http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/25089119468982650/F66631B6B1B39C737F...

And can shoot through walls......

The Celestial Shield is a shield with unique defenses with the only thing in game comparable is the one piece armor Radiant Silvermail.

The Deluxe starter pack is a bit meh but it still is pay to get.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 16:56
#32
Lordyasir's picture
Lordyasir
@"THIS IS NOT A GAME AT ALL"

Geez,have you been into lockdown before? especially GvG? This is life!
It has the potential to beat a lot of known "E sport" games,like Dota and LoL.it needs more strategy,skill, and reflex,it's easy to get into yet hard to master,no piece of equipment is better than other one to the point of calling it OP,if just devs' didn't hate their own game.
If we get better lag-free servers,more players,removing pulsar line weapons and AT from LD,maybe more LD maps and modes(not denying that the current mode tests teamwork and individual's skill to the fullest),reworking defense in this game to be more balanced with sets that gives bonuses,buffing some under powered guns and swords,then I would see SK being one of the most known games worldwide,with famous teams,leagues,and international tournaments.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 17:06
#33
Holy-Nightmare's picture
Holy-Nightmare
@ Lordyasir

LD is broke. Plain and simple, defenses are useless, the only things that matter are HP trinkets, ASI/CTR UVs, BK sets, Max Status UVs.

It is nearly impossible for a new player to join and do well, compared to other games (TF2, SSB, CSGO, Unreal Tournament, ETC) where new players (while not as skilled) aren't statistically at a major disadvantage.

When a Volcanic Plate mail set can laugh off a DA combo (take very small damage) is the day that LD is balanced.

For any game to be balanced there must always be a downside to a choice, when it comes to LD the paying player has no downside.

Tue, 10/28/2014 - 18:47
#34
Immortal-Insurgent
Truth?

Truth? I don't exactly see truth. I see more of another teen who is finding somthing to complain about. What you people don't realize is that Spiral Knights is only 3 years old. If I may say, SK's weaponry is increaseing; therefore, its more like 35 swords +. If you hate the game just stop playing, no one is chaining you to your PC locked on SK. However, if that ever does happen, I might see where your coming from. In the mean time, plz stop starting these threads. They just take up space, even in the grave yard!

Wed, 10/29/2014 - 09:48
#35
Subsequent-Support's picture
Subsequent-Support
Opinions. Opinions everywhere.

This has got to be the rant that has the most opinions with no facts so far on here.

Wed, 10/29/2014 - 18:13
#36
Immortal-Insurgent
Swift-star

Lol open your eyes o.0

Wed, 10/29/2014 - 23:44
#37
Gidosaurus
@Ghostphantom

He/She is right, so many people hating each other's opinions. It's so amusing.

Thu, 10/30/2014 - 02:00
#38
Inalaman's picture
Inalaman
Bah

The only thing that I am going to defend here is the way that the OP said that there's a short weaponary, because let's face it, more than half the stuff this game has to offer is Underpowered, outshined or made obsolete by a few others, the stuff is there, it's just that it isn't worth using, so very few peeps do.

most of the other things said are unsalvagable.

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