Spiral Knights - Forsaken World (discussion)

Forsaken World (discussion)

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Tue, 01/06/2015 - 18:30

Thinslayer

For those who've missed the sprawling epics like the Return to Cradle saga, I have a present for you.

I don't have a title for it yet, and the plot (and game mechanics too) is still very much in the development stage, but I already have a few exciting new concepts planned out.

Darian Reflet, Captain of the Storm Legion
Wanna join one of these?
In case you didn't get the message, everyone gets at least one of these.
Happens all the time around here.
With magic, too.
It ain't all battles, though.

Excited yet?

I'm taking ideas if you guys got any.

Tue, 01/06/2015 - 18:41

Colray

woah!

Nice pictures! You could count me excited. As for ideas, I like Almire, and I was thinking about maybe a regiment that survived the fall of Almire, and regroup to try and take back the city, where in the final battle they all die. Any thoughts on a doomed rp?

Tue, 01/06/2015 - 18:43

Thinslayer

@Colray

I decided that the setting takes place on Isora, during the Isoran Civil War. I have all seven members of the Spiral Council created and ready to go. The trouble is, until I have the game mechanics set up, I won't know how to use them.

Tue, 01/06/2015 - 18:45

Midnight-Dj

Any one wanna pay a visit to a swarm powered cradle emerged from another dimension? Just me? Fine -.-

Tue, 01/06/2015 - 18:52

Saucce

I think it would be awesome

I think it would be awesome to see the Isoran homeplanet. You made those? That's bad@$$

Tue, 01/06/2015 - 19:01

Thinslayer

Mor plotz.

The story so far...

Isora is in turmoil. The seven members of the Spiral Council, Darian Reflet, Serris Lengsk, Winter Grey, Cecilia Barlowe, Solomon Trent, Desna Conroy, and Evaria Sintaris have each split off with their respective legions, throwing all of Isora into civil war. You, player, could be one of these members, and it will be up to you to decide how the war will end.
__________

I haven't yet settled the grievances between the council members that caused them to split off. It's important that they each be of sufficient weight that the players choose to stay separated of their own accord and voluntarily avoid alliances with other players.

@Saucce: I didn't make those pictures. I found them on the internet. :P

Tue, 01/06/2015 - 19:10

Liminori

Woah!

Wait, You mean that we can have giant armies at our hands, AND have Log Horizon scale arguements, explanations and fights?
I'M IN!

Tue, 01/06/2015 - 19:14

Thinslayer

@Liminori

Exactly! I just felt that we've been playing with small fries for far too long. We all sorely needed something epic for a change.

Tue, 01/06/2015 - 19:27

Archemiday-Thebard

Space Lutes 2: Electric Boogaloo

I'll gladly take part in an RP where I can become the main character of Waifu Emblem : Awakening.

Jokes aside, I agree with Liminori. Too long have my hands waited to command an army.

That consists entirely of bards using only lutes.

I mean, just think about it.

*Space lutes*

Tue, 01/06/2015 - 19:38

Thinslayer

@Archemiday-Thebard

Actually, I was just now reminded of a scene from a Korean drama that validates everything about your sword lutes:

Faith/The Great Doctor: magic flute duel
At 0:35 seconds he sheathes his sword-flute and starts playing it.

Tue, 01/06/2015 - 19:59

#10

Archemiday-Thebard

Capitalism ho!

http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/images/d/d1/Battle_Mandolin_Sheathed.png

Example of what I had always imagined when I had sword lutes in my head.

Now think about it,

*Space sword lutes*

Better than sword-chucks.

Tue, 01/06/2015 - 22:44

#11

Liminori

Hmmmmmm.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.
Flute Poison darts? Too easy.
Lightning Guitar? Too Marty Sue.
Clarinet Stiletto? They'd never see it coming. Mwuahahaha.
Edit: My goodness, "Devestation and Reform" has quite the impact. AND NOW, I SHALL MAKE A CHARACTER FROM A SONG!
HUZZAH!
☼ Praise the sun? ☼
So, Excuse me while I make a character* as I rock out to the song.

Tue, 01/06/2015 - 23:50

#12

Thinslayer

Pictures incoming!

Serris Lengsk, Captain of the Polar Legion
Winter Grey, Captain of the Rage Legion
Darian Reflet, Captain of the Storm Legion
Desna Conroy, Captain of the Iron Legion
Evaria Sintaris, Captain of the Gold Legion
Cecilia Barlowe, Captain of the Rose Legion
Solomon Trent, Captain of the Azure Legion

Tue, 01/06/2015 - 23:18

#13

Colray

Characters of the story?

I would want the role of Solomon Trent, I remember him being an honest soldier.

Of course, I also like playing the unimportant. We'll see.

Tue, 01/06/2015 - 23:44

#14

Liminori

Woah

When did Saber get a power boost?!

Aaaaah!

Tue, 01/06/2015 - 23:51

#15

Thinslayer

@Liminori

That's art of Mordred, not Artoria.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 00:19

#16

Liminori

*cough*

How would I know the difference, Having only seen the first half of Blade Works, and a bit of Fate/Stay?

My apologies.

Now, I must go to sleep, and in my dreams, murder myself.
Of course, I'll be alive still.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 00:22

#17

Thinslayer

@Liminori

Do not murder yourself until you've seen the 2014 Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works. It's a freaking masterpiece. If you die before seeing it, I will kill you. People die when they're killed.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 00:24

#18

Feline-Grenadier

Huh...

So...

...is Grey going to get all her teeth pulled out, beaten up, get her eyeballs gouged, tortured, and get all her limbs broken in public again? :D

I mean, considering with the various "deaths" she's been subject in the Condemned series...I'm almost kinda tempted to go against her again just for the kicks xD

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 00:27

#19

Thinslayer

@Feline-Grenadier

lol noooo, I should hope not. ^_^

I plan for her to be the co-creator of the Morai faction, along with Serris Lengsk.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 00:46

#20

Midnight-Dj

@thin

Ugh... Serris Lengsk, I think I should be credited to his last name...

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 00:49

#21

Thinslayer

@Midnight-Dj

Credit goes to you for the last name. ^_^

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:35

#22

Thinslayer

More Mechanics

Instead of magic, characters use alchemy in much the same way it's represented in Fullmetal Alchemist. Harnessing that power is not natural; one needs to have the requisite Drive Circuits in the body. They are activated by marking them down with liquid minerals. If you want to be a flame alchemist, you mark it down with crimsonite, for example. The seven Captains of the Spiral Council are all alchemists.

Serris Lengsk is an ice alchemist, marked with valestone.
Winter Grey is a nature alchemist. She uses a Tome of Rage in combination with valestone markings.
Darian Reflet is a plasma (electricity) alchemist. He uses a Thunder Tome in combination with moonstone markings.
Desna Conroy is a flame alchemist, marked with crimsonite.
Evaria Sintaris is light alchemist, marked with luminite.
Cecilia Barlowe is a weapons alchemist, marked with moonstone.
Solomon Trent is a light alchemist, marked with luminite.

These alchemical assignments are likely to change at any time.

Each player begins with a 1-million-man army that you can customize at your leisure with any reasonable gear from Spiral Knights lore. How you choose to outfit your army does influence the outcome of your battles, but since we're not going to be doing any complex mathematical calculations here, don't count on it making a huge difference unless the outfits are really groundbreaking. All knights are equipped and trained with standard Azure Guardian gear, so if you have them equip some other weapon set, they will need training with it before they are truly effective with it.

Polar Legion is stationed at the polar caps.
Storm Legion is stationed along the coasts.
Rage Legion is stationed in the jungles.
Iron Legion is stationed in the mountains.
Gold Legion is stationed in the deserts.
Azure Legion is stationed in the plains
Rose Legion is stationed in the capital.

I could use a world map of Isora, if anyone's willing to form one. If not, I'll make one myself at some point.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:40

#23

Sawhero

Great idea!

If you still have an opening, I'm totally in! Also, what are you looking for in the map? If you give me a vague idea, I can try to make one.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 12:16

#24

Thinslayer

@Sawhero

None of the council member have been assigned to any players yet, so there's no need to worry about openings just yet.

I want a map with a variety of terrains. The capital city, Va'Isor, is at the center of the map. There should be a major city in each major terrain area, along with various surrounding suburbs. There should also be a number of islands in the oceans, with at least one city therein. Roads should be marked between the cities and suburbs where appropriate. If you could create road, city, and terrain patterns that would lend themselves to interesting stories, that would be awesome; a mountain pass, for example, would make for a great ambush scene.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:10

#25

Archemiday-Thebard

Fire Emblem : Waifuning

If not already seen from my Waifu Emblem post, I'd have interest in playing Darian when the game starts.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:25

#26

Thinslayer

Recording Preliminary Requests

So let's see if I've got this straight.

Colray wants to be Solomon Trent.
Archemiday wants to be Darian Reflet.
Topogaming wanted to be Winter Grey.

Any other requests?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:36

#27

Sawhero

Let's see...

I'm open for anyone, but would prefer someone who favors hit-and-run/guerrilla warfare. If that's in the works, then that would be my only preference.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:37

#28

Thinslayer

@Sawhero

That would be Rage Legion through and through. Oh my goodness, that's absolutely Lady Grey's specialty. Topogaming is unlikely to join anyway, so... ;)

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 15:20

#29

Liminori

Heh...?

Excuse me while I seriously mull over my choices.
On a side note, Who do you all think I would do best as?
Edit: I think I'd need a better understanding of the style of the characters/army before I can really think about it too much.
Otherwise, I'd probably go for Darian.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:57

#30

Thinslayer

@Liminori

You up for playing as a scheming villain? Serris Lengsk.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:25

#31

Hexlash

A Wolver's Purpose

I don't know which one to choose! Oh well.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:41

#32

Thinslayer

Hexlash!

*giddy & excited that Hexlash wants to play*

If I were to allow custom characters, possibly in place of the existing ones, what would you guys come up with?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:49

#33

Hexlash

A Wolver's Purpose

*giddy & excited that Thinslayer is making another epic* ^^

Maybe some sort of undermining spy, scout. Perhaps just the adventures of one of the soldiers under the command of these powerful captains, just cataloguing their life amidst the life changing decisions of the captains. Or a peasant caught up in the war, giving us a glimpse into the innocent lives, if there is or ever was innocence. How about some political scholars or alchemy professors pursuing knowledge, that transcend the quarrels plaguing the land, maybe even Morai intellectuals?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 18:04

#34

Thinslayer

Custom Characters Permitted!

@Hexlash: That's a really cool idea, actually. Having scholars, politicians, and intellectuals engaged in the story would add a great new dimension to it. I'm not keen on having small-fries, though. There are all kinds of RPs out there that let you play as the small-fries, and I don't want this one to be among them. Player-made NPCs & supporting characters, however, are a different story... ;-)

So. Down to business. If you guys don't want to play as any of the presets, I'll permit custom characters. However, for the purposes of this game, I'm biased toward more important ones. The more important the character, the more likely I am to accept it.

Here are a few of the ones I have already planned out.
Astran Valderis as a young man during the war. He served as a commando unit.
Vaelyn as a Squad Leader.
Ozlo Yeager, Field Commander

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 21:24

#35

Colray

Hmmmmm

I'm going to stick with Solomon right now, but I like the idea of a political character in a world of war.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 22:33

#36

Sawhero

Possible idea!

Not sure how you feel about this, but I thought it was worth a shot. What if there were to be a mercenary faction? Other factions could hire them out, but the mercs would still be working whatever benefited them. It might add another layer of complexity by having a universal friend/foe relationship.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 11:26

#37

Thinslayer

@Sawhero

I'd normally have no problem with a mercenary faction, but the problem is, if I add one, EVERYONE and their mother will want to be in it. No matter how many other cool factions an RP has, if there's a mercenary faction, everyone wants it. So unless you can convince me that it won't be an issue, I won't be adding it.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 13:16

#38

Thinslayer

Tentative World Map

Isora World Map

Opinions? Questions? Criticisms?

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 14:01

#39

Sawhero

Game Map

I like it overall, there might be just a little too much coastline. All in all, it should make for interesting strategies.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 14:04

#40

Thinslayer

@Sawhero

Yeah, on second look, I'm inclined to agree that it has too much water & coastline.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 14:42

#41

Darkwatck

Hmm this kinda makes me want to take Skotino and twist his mutation/self experimentation, in this story. Could you imagine Dark Matter and DNA from a Dragon inside a Knight only taken over the Knights body fully xD

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 14:44

#42

Thinslayer

@Darkwatck

That would certainly be sinister.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 14:48

#43

Darkwatck

Well I had an idea for what he looks like but I can't draw. Just imagine one of those levition creatures, only with draconian features. Well there is more to it, but in a since that's the gist of it.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 15:39

#44

Tech-Star

I would join

I would join but I'm not used to commanding full sized armies.
I'm considering it, but I'm like an Owlite.
And I don't watch Full metal alchemist even though I should.
Dragon Ball Abridged -> Naruto -> Dragon Ball -> Dragon Ball Z -> Dragon Ball GT -> Attack on Titan
After all the books I'm yet to read.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 17:45

#45

Saucce

Sounds fun

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 18:35

#46

Darkwatck

Well lets do it. But I would have to ask, how would Skotino work in this, I mean he already (in my mind) works a Army of Mercs. Besides, if you let him be fully taken by the experiments on his body... Hmm, well I suppose he would still have his mercs. Only they would be corrupted for his uses as well.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 19:03

#47

Thinslayer

Yes...muah ha ha...

I'm building a list of grievances each captain is responsible for that would lend cause to the war. Maybe one of the Captains, perhaps Serris or Lady Grey, is performing dark matter experiments, and Skotino is one of the test subjects.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 19:04

#48

Darkwatck

Ya an experiment that went a little too far en.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 23:33

#49

Thinslayer

Mutually Assured Destruction

Everyone must have an issue that forced them to split from the Council. You must choose one.

Power Hungry - You have been expanding the power of your government. You think your reasons are wholly justified, but it's royally angering the other factions.
Slavery - Your economy depends entirely on the use of unpaid workers. Since they are inferior, you feel that there is nothing wrong with using them. Maybe they're robots, work animals, lower-class citizens, or something else. Even so, the other factions think you're committing a grave sin by forcing them to work for you.
Land Grab - You've been taking over neighboring lands or jobs, making them and their allies very angry with you. But you believe you have no other choice, since maybe your resources are depleted, the neighbors provoked you, or you just randomly decided their faces would look better with your fist in them.
Religion - The other nations around you have fallen into immorality and wickedness. You are called to be their judge, jury, and executioner. Show them the error of their ways. Make them pay for the evil they have wrought.
Intrigue - You've been spying on your neighbors for far too long. The assassination attempt was the last straw, and you are now drawn into all-out war over it.
Racism - You have created the ultimate race. You spent countless decades of your precious life perfecting the human genome, and you will NOT have it screwed-up because some dimwit got laid by a prostitute one night.
Nationalism - Your country right or wrong. God Bless Your Country. Land of the Free Handouts and Home of the Brave Idiots. You stuck your nose into everyone else's business because you're so much better than they are, and now they despise you for it. Oops.

In addition to the above issues, every faction has a stock of key weapons up their sleeves called "Magical-Alchemical Deconstructors," or "MADs," which are essentially anti-everything weapons capable of neutralizing anything and everything they come in contact with. Magic barriers in the way? Boom. Fancy alchemy a problem for you? Boom. Rogue planet in your way? Boom. Nothing gets in the way of these babies.

They resemble the star-like sci-fi torpedoes, but they are launched from cannons and underground silos, and most starships have a small battery of tactical-sized variants on board. They can be fired any way you like - you can direct-fire them, send them in a high arc, have them tunnel underground, or have them home in on a moving target. They are the ultimate weapon.

There are exactly two problems with them, though. Firstly, they are powered by tearium, which is a rare earth element on Isora that is difficult to mine and refine. Secondly, every faction has them. If you use yours, they use theirs, and everybody dies in spectacular fashion. Even the smaller, less-than-apocalyptic versions should be used with care, because as previously described, they neutralize (as in "destroy totally and irrecoverably") whatever they come in contact with, permanently altering the total quantity of matter & energy in the universe. It's so powerful that the very laws of physics bend to its will. Choose wisely how you use it.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 23:57

#50

Hexlash

A Wolver's Purpose

What is this?! Thinslayer, I came here for an RP, not an insightful, intellectual, education, informative and interesting summary of everything I learned this past semester. I don't need to tolerate this kind of entertaining application of what I've been taught.

Sarcasm aside, I love how you've used those realistic concepts of historic ideals for this RP.

Also, "... permanently altering the total quantity of matter & energy in the universe." Well excuse me. I don't think you're allowed to break two fundamental laws of the universe in one go. Mind as well say the theory of relativity is broken by these MADs because they create reference anchors in space. That you could teleport to. Wait, what?

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