Thanks, Now Lets Get PvP
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 08:05
Dear OOO-
First, thank you for the new round of content. The levels will do a lot to groom new players to be conscious of their teammates. The new weapons are neat, and I even agree with on the bomb changes. I'm especially happy to see changes to guns!
I would like to ask you to consider PvP in your next release. It doesn't have to be complex. It doesn't have to be anything more than what you already have built. Simple deathmatch would be great.
The problem is that you have many, many experienced, seasoned, end game players that simply have nothing to do but race Vanaduke in their proto gear. Many of these players use real money to buy energy. They run guilds and work with new players. They keep the AH stocked with the hard to find stuff. They update the Wiki. They provide you with crucial feedback you need to refine this game. They're important to the game and community.
But *we* are bored.
I don't expect Tier 4. Please take your time and perfect it. But in the meantime, please give us a rudimentary PvP so we can kill each other and use our gear for something. Once we have *something*, we can give you feedback on how to make it better. We are OK with "here is something basic, we'll make it better later". We can handle that, but we can't handle being idle. Please put something in to keep us busy, even if it's basic!
Thanks,
Tsuanok of Pendulum
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 08:30
#2
+ infinity!
and beyond!
+ infinity!
and beyond!
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 08:36
#3
AGREED... however
Agreed. Except, I believe it should be free. If it costs energy to pvp, then i dont think it would be quite as successful. I think energyless pvp would make people who are low on energy alot more accepting of the game. Of course, im sure it would be awesome if you could place wages on yourself in a match, and gain crowns or energy or something for winning. Or maybe a betting pot when four people go into to fight eachother, and the winner recieves everything in the betting pot. SO many possibilities.
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 08:46
#4
@alterego1092
I think starting out, they charge a small amount of crowns. 500cr or something. I can't see it being free, nor do I expect it to - OOO has servers to run.
But betting would be great (and I believe has been suggested). I think in terms of getting it out there, just releasing what they had before would be fine.
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 08:50
#5
This is great and all, but
This is great and all, but you don't think OOO will implement something just because someone want it, do you?
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for PVP, but I think OOO has some 'scheduled' releases and they're gonna release them in whatever order they want, regardless of how many "letters" players will address them.
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 09:06
#6
@noctuelle
No doubt they have a schedule, but a big part of agile software development (and I imagine they're agile, or similar to agile), is releasing a prototyping and refining it based on user feedback. Releasing a very slimmed down PvP system allows them to satisfy the user base, and get the data necessary to create a great experience.
Maybe my head is just in the clouds, but I can't see a reason for holding back the PvP system I'm outlining if it already exists.
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 09:09
#7
If anything will be the crown
If anything will be the crown sink, it'll be PVP. Hell, they should even increase it based on the higher-star tier you want to enter in.
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 09:44
#8
But *we* are bored.
I am not
But *we* are bored.
I am not bored, and I think many would consider me an "experienced, seasoned, end game player." I really do not look forward to the circlejerk that will be PvP.
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 10:57
#9
Seriously I know PVP sounds
Seriously I know PVP sounds like a very fun idea, but I believe when you think about it, it is going to be boring. Your going to have two people running in a circle with a gun shooting each other until the other dies. It is going to get old really quick. Probably isn't going to be much strategy to it.
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 10:59
#10
@codemister13
Sure, basic PvP would get boring after a bit.. but I never suggested PvP stay boring. I don't see why it can't evolve with different terrain, puzzles, etc that enforce tactics and teamwork. Until those things are sorted out, simple arenas would be fine.
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 11:03
#11
A single arena with two
A single arena with two people dueling would get old after one time. Why would anyone use swords when you can just shoot the person before they get close and keep running? It is going to be a duel of guns that you can move while shooting, probably rarely shielding. This is just my personal opinion on the matter of course.
I would much rather see groups of players fighting to obtain a goal. Capture the Sprite?
Thu, 07/07/2011 - 12:19
#12
Capture the Snipe would never
Capture the Snipe would never grow boring IMHO :D
But to be honest, I am worried about one thing regarding PVP, and the thing is weapon balance.
While I am all for PVP, I just can't quite imagine how PVP will work in game like this, with our current combat system.
It's a bit like how Codemister said.
Moreover, I saw some Spiral Knights PVP video from beta version on YT, and it seemed... I don't know.
Guess I just have to wait and see how the PVP will work.
FULL SUPORT.