Rappelz used to do this on special occasions (proceeded by server wide warnings about which towns to avoid). Bodies everywhere.....

And then there was this one time in guildwars.... oh god.... the smell of burnt pixel flesh everywhere.... she was such a nice girl... but then.... her home... revenge.... the cries of a thousand chat lines.... burning.... oh god... I can still see the chat window scrolling.... I"m sorry Gwen.... I failed you... please... NO! not the fire.... NOT THE FIRE!!!!

I just had this same thought myself just a few days ago but it would also have tremendous lag like if you've ever been in haven 1

Umm... so if like I was bidding some [crap], and I get pwned by vanaduke, I can't bid [crap] anymore, and I have to stay in a dark room.

I suppose it would work like the normal game. Clear area would still be open. Shops would have to close down, so bidding and buying would be put on hold. I mean, imagine running from a raging JK when you stop by the AH and put an extra 5 cr on your bid. Topside is no-one will be able to bid on it while you can't.

If there are smaller enemies that invade as well, I suppose they should drop items and hearts for players to use. Can't leave you fighting on your feet without support.

i say we make it into a scenerio. We have monster invading Haven through the arcade and the knights are tasked with defending the arcade with their lives. This keeps the shops up and running. I also think we should have the option of selecting to go to normal arcade or "infested arcade" for those who want to by-pass and play normally. As for the issue of lag, I believe that we should apply the same system of advance training hall where you group at most around 8 ppl in one "infested arcade" map. Also maybe an "infested guildhall" for kicks too.

this would be super fun, and i agree with t3dd13 about the 8-to-an-area thing, it would greatly reduce lag.... but maybe add more people to a party. and when its all said and done there could be a display showing which havens successfully fended off he invasion.
determining this would work like so: say haven 3 had 12 groups(0f 8) go and try to fight the invasion, 9 of them succeed and 3 fail, haven 3 had successfully fended off the invasion. maybe if 60% of the groups won it was a success.............. now for rewards.... each individual group that wins would get a reward of some kind.................... all the people in a winning haven would get a reward....................... and if 60% of all havens won, every player online would get a reward.... so if someone were to be in a winning group which was in a winning haven and at least 60% of havens won, they would get rewarded 3 times.

Would it be odd if a noob just came in and leeched the goods off the big dude? ^_-. I mean, he could just run away or something while all the pro people are spilling JK's guts all over the floor then take whats given to him.

I reckon the loot will be given by then end, with players receiving shares on how involved they were. If there are lesser monsters, then the loot from them is person kill, person get. Or whoever picks it up.

That'd be sad as....But hardcore XD

I prefer the OMG JK IS ATTACKING US! FREE FOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Jelly on toast ^^)

You din't read the earlier posts, did you? I already posted the idea of a Boss Hazard server, where only people who wish to try their luck would go where there is the possibility of fighting the boss, although not certain nor regular.

There should be several of those, to reduce lag more...

Entry of enemy via Arcade makes sense, although I still reckon the front area of Haven should be used, because they have that guard there, and what would a guard be doing there if he wasn't guarding anything, hm?

Also to make the boss towns kinda fit in with the "story" of the world, maybe it could be a mission from Spiral HQ saying that bosses have been sighted frequently around some towns and they need brave knights to help fight them off.

Valkyrie182 stated earlier that he proposed towns that players KNEW bosses would randomly spawn in, thus allowing those with lag or those who would get it as a result of the boss, could avoid those servers and carry on with their lives

It would have to be as you come back up from a venture. You'd be able to play without risk of losing money since it dosen't take energy to leave the clockworks. I think having a boss occasionaly appear on a mystery lift with the question mark would be cooler though.

+1

EDIT: fyi, im talking about a new boss, or set of bosses, solely for random Haven invasions, my idea below is generated with that in mind. Valkyrie's idea involves a current clockworks boss spawning in Haven....

I was thinking about this and ways to combat lag, and we could have it such that when the boss attacks, he encases every player in like a bubble/ or just paralyses everyone except say 10 knights (which is done randomly). This occurs in every Haven town centre that has sufficient knights present (10? 20 maybe to allow for the random choosing). Those 10 knights are the only ones able to fight, with whatever they currently have equipped, while the rest can only watch. People in the Bazaar, Arcade and Training hall are blocked from entering the town centre by Spiral Wardens and/or the NPC's and Merchants from each area who will say "its too dangerous" or something.

If one of the 10 dies, they remain dead on the floor. If we win, everyone in that whole Haven instance gets a prize, with the 10 knights perhaps getting a little extra (but not something epic, because random selection means someone may never get picked to fight). Also, once we win, an NPC warden appears conveniently late, revives the dead knights, and says "well done blah blah", and dishes out the winnings. If we lose, then several Wardens appear to save the day, they heal up the dead knights, say bl to us, and go on their way, and life returns to normal.

Things like the AH will pause for the duration of the battle - Even maybe shutting their windows.
Armed NPCs in the town square will be protecting all the civilian NPCs in that grassy area to the west, thus wont help you fight.
Snipes will fly up to safe areas.
Also, as some extra eye candy, the warden that appears when we win could land the killing blow (FINISH HIM!!!!) to the boss, like the post kill swipe on trojans.

My idea on a potential prize will be to have some costume armours and helms, and maybe one new 3 star sword and shield (un-upgradeable). They will all cost 10 "Haven Boss" tokens. Every time a boss attacks and is defeated by the knights, everyone receives one token, with the 10 fighting knights getting 5 or 10. So similar to pvp, you will always get rewarded. Also, to not make the coins totally worthless worthless once you get everything, you can sell them to vendors for like 100 crowns each or something....

Of course, you could completely forgo that totally and just give everyone 1000 crowns, with the 10 knights getting 2000.

I probably missed some stuff I wanted to say, but you get the idea (:

I already covered the idea for lag combat. There would be new servers created (test name is Boss Hazard Servers) that are the only ones that could be attacked by a boss. Maybe there could be a player limit in them? We also need idea about how to stop regular people that aren't actually fighting from leeching the goods from the better players, so I was thinking maybe a pick=get system, and the bosses goodies distributed by player involvement.

Miseryman...just to prove your point, how would the Roarmulus even GET to haven?

Nice seeing someone is giving objective POVS other than me.

Well, the collective plan was for bosses to be less powerful, but have more HP. Also, there could be lesser monsters that also swarm the area WITH the boss, so almost EVERYONE is involved.

If the bosses are hard enough, then less people will want to waste their time on them. Because it's random attacks, no-one will know WHEN the boss or even WHAT boss will attack, and eventually everyone will get too lazy to just hang out in the server to get the goods. We don't plan on the attacks being frequent, but the possibility of the attack will be there.

Anyway, I doubt that many people will just hang around in the boss Hazard servers ALL DAY just to see a boss. They'd get bored eventually and maybe go to the clockworks. There'd be a lot of waiting, and actually fighting a boss would need a bit of luck, as it's a random attack, and probably won't be one every hour or so. It can't be frequent, or people WILL just crowd the servers...

If the players can't involve themselves, then there would be a problem. But I don't think it's that hard. Sure, programming a judging system will be. But all the players need to do is kill stuff. Then there won't be a case of AFKers that just join and get stuff like the Coliseum did. Maybe there should be a penalty for dying? Maybe not. The option is there for debate...(it's supposed to deter AFKers cuz if they die then they may lose stuff.

Another thing...even if we follow the idea of pick=get that I posted earlier, there will be complaints of people that just wait till you kill something then grab the goods themselves. Perhaps it should be a Kill=get? exceptions of maybe pills, vials and pods?

But gear wouldn't be scaled. Defense and power would remain as the gear says. Otherwise even proto geared people will be tanking it out against Vanaduke. Considering him even appearing that is...

On second thought, maybe scaling health may not be so good. Otherwise tons of people will try their luck because they stand more of a chance, with more health, and therefore MORE people will try for the servers. Not scaling health would hopefully deter those who believe they are ill prepared, and hopefully clear the Boss Server traffic.

LMAO. So what do you think about the bosses of the clockworks journeying from within the depths to destroy us? We attack them lots, should make sense that they attack us back.

Well it is a impossible idea but just saying..
If all the players die, should the server become a monster control sever and then random days when you can fight back and try to maintain control
of the things and their should just be monsters everywhere when the server is stable (meaning that you cant fight back yet) and their like your bosses and crap,
i know it sounds impossible :P

And the server should look busted up too (busted up AH and the floor is blown up and ugly) and there should be some client that reads the players equipment to tell which tier they are and the one with the most tier should be the tier monsters and difficulty when a wave attacks or when its time to fight back. NO MOAR HARDNESS

Here's a better idea. Why not expand the map? Clearly, a town like haven is totally unprepared for such a calamity, and issues would be galore. However, a surprise spawning in a semi-hostile zone, such as the Advanced Training House, is much more feasible. People already have their weapons drawn, and it's already possible to die. Everything's laid out, but the fact that you can't get hurt lulls you into a false...sense...of...security...

THEN BAM!!! Mass chaos.

Only it could happen on roads between towns. Which goes back to me original thought. We need moar towns, which results in need for roads between towns. They don't all have to be levels like the bridge to haven, but could be semi-hostile zones, where weapons and such are out, but cute little jellies and chromas scuttle around, but aren't much of a challenge. Something akin to the Treasure Vault. Except that the treasure here would be random bosses. Big ones.

maybe the boss could be monomi! :D