We really need an Auction House!
Fri, 04/01/2011 - 17:36
Pros:
You could have your items up for sale while inside a clockwork, allowing players to explore clockworks more often instead of hanging out in Haven.
Much easier and efficient to buy and sell items through an interface than it is to spam /1 and tabbing out to post offers on forums.
It'd regulate the economy, but in a good way. Less experienced players would be more unlikely to be screwed over in a deal.
The game has the groundwork for one with a mailing system already implemented.
The spot near the Auction House would turn into a localized trading/crafting center. This would further curb /1 spam and allow /1 chat to be more for helping others in their adventures, finding friends, guilds, and party members, etc.
Auction House fees would serve as a Crown sink.
Cons:
The "Auction House" name has been done a billion times. I'm sure you guys could think of a better name though.
I think this would be easily the best implementation yet. Right now, it's fairly difficult to buy the materials you need; it's even harder to sell excess materials.
Sun, 04/03/2011 - 14:53
#2
One step further than a
One step further than a simple auction house, it would be nice to have a feature where you can request items and list a price. The CE trader pretty much already does this. Since you will know what you want from reading recipes, there's no reason to not include a scroll-down list of reagents you wish to buy so you can inform folks that you're ponying up 2k crowns or some quantity of CE for a monster bone.
A system for buying equipment would be a little trickier, given the possibility of unique variants.
Sun, 04/03/2011 - 15:13
#3
I believe this would be helpful
Especially for lower-mid range players who don't need the big materials everyone wants to trade for. I'm sure I have materials someone else wants but isn't willing to ask to buy it all day long.
Sun, 04/03/2011 - 19:09
#4
I second this idea. Trying to
I second this idea. Trying to buy or sell things in /1 chat is simply too time consuming, and sometimes non productive.
Mon, 04/04/2011 - 08:19
#5
Yes a action house would be
Yes a action house would be great. then people might stop spaming zone chat with a list of everthing they are selling.
Mon, 04/04/2011 - 12:26
#6
Additionally, I think it
Additionally, I think it would be neat if the auction house used the same "post offer" system as the energy market. I like it much more than WoW's auction house.
Mon, 04/04/2011 - 13:08
#7
Signed
Signed
Mon, 04/04/2011 - 15:31
#8
We seriously need something
We seriously need something to help with trades.
/1 WTS
Player: Ooo, I'll buy it for a bajillion CE!
Me: Ok, meet me in Haven 5
Player: Erm, I'm in Haven 2
Me: Uhm.. ya...
/1 WTS in Haven 5 only!
Sure, you can mail the item for crowns, but needing to pay to bypass a simple trade is ridiculous.
Plus, an Auction house lets you browse items you might not know exist. Sell items in bulk easily, etc, etc, etc.
Many pluses, very few, if any, negatives.
DO EET!
Mon, 04/04/2011 - 19:55
#9
Doing it in a way similar to
Doing it in a way similar to the crystal energy market would be brilliant.
Tue, 04/05/2011 - 14:02
#10
Really... REALLY... need an
Really... REALLY... need an auction house
Tue, 04/05/2011 - 14:22
#11
Auction House Needed
Agreed. I absolutely thought this was going to be implemented in the final version of the game. I think it makes total sense, and is a natural transition from the Energy Depot that is already in place. Offer in auction where people can buy and sell materials and gear and recipes for crowns and energy. Will make it so much easier for people to find what they are looking for and make money without spamming WTS and WTB all over Haven.
Tue, 04/05/2011 - 15:23
#12
agreed!
agreed! something an Auction House would be fantastic.
Tue, 04/05/2011 - 19:02
#13
I support this, typing out
I support this, typing out all my mats is terrible.
Tue, 04/05/2011 - 19:04
#14
A Commodity Market (give it a
A Commodity Market (give it a fancy robot name I guess) that operated like the energy market, but for any given item, definitely has my support.
Tue, 04/05/2011 - 20:40
#15
yeah, every good mmo, f2p or
yeah, every good mmo, f2p or not, has one of these
Wed, 04/06/2011 - 09:07
#16
Yep definitely agree!
Yep definitely agree!
Wed, 04/06/2011 - 10:58
#17
at the very least, a separate
at the very least, a separate chat channel for the market(hopefully on a seperate tab) would help the spam issue, I don't think it's really necessary to add a whole new area. Though new content is always cool.
Wed, 04/06/2011 - 17:36
#18
Would definitely be convenient
Having something like this would be very useful for finding materials I don't have, as well as for buying/selling crafted equipment for some extra money. Would also get rid of all the "WTB/WTS this and that" messages from the chat. I approve.
Wed, 04/06/2011 - 22:23
#19
I am up for an Auction house!
I am up for an Auction house! It should be the Haven Stock Exchange! Where you buy and sell goods! I hate spamming "Selling stuff!" and risked getting reported for a stupid reason!
Thu, 04/07/2011 - 00:30
#20
No Brainer.
Please God implement an auction house. This seems like a no brainer.
Thu, 04/07/2011 - 01:38
#21
"We seriously need something
"We seriously need something to help with trades.
/1 WTS
Player: Ooo, I'll buy it for a bajillion CE!
Me: Ok, meet me in Haven 5
Player: Erm, I'm in Haven 2
Me: Uhm.. ya...
/1 WTS in Haven 5 only!
Sure, you can mail the item for crowns, but needing to pay to bypass a simple trade is ridiculous."
-RoTide
Alternatively, one of you could click the word "Haven" on the minimap and then select the specific zone that the other person is in...
Thu, 04/07/2011 - 06:05
#22
Signed. I can't believe this
Signed. I can't believe this wasn't implemented before beta was finished.
Thu, 04/07/2011 - 10:02
#23
The /1 chat channel only
The /1 chat channel only shows to people in the same Haven number that you're in, anyway, though.
Thu, 04/07/2011 - 13:45
#24
Yup this is a necessity, the
Yup this is a necessity, the forums/yelling in chat is too time consuming. I love me the crafting meta-game but simply wasting time sitting around is not my thing.
Also it would make it easier for new players to figure out what a fair price is vs. some people charging 2k for a one star item and someone buying it because they don't know better.
Thu, 04/07/2011 - 19:53
#25
Possible names
I'm bored, think the Auction House is a great idea, but as was said above me, would need a new name.
Here are a few I thought up of, some more relevant thank others, ie. sticking with the Knightly steampunky middle easty thing
- Item Exchange
- Material Mall
- The Souk
- Component Post
- Trade Bazaar
- Object Outlet
- The Bolt Bodega
- Tradesmith
The ones in bold are my personal favourites!
Thu, 04/07/2011 - 21:23
#26
Yes please
Yes please
Thu, 04/07/2011 - 21:43
#27
Any official word on this?
Any official word on this? If it is in progress or even been thought about? I think an auction house will make or break this game. (at least for me, I don't have time to stand around hawking mats)
Thu, 04/07/2011 - 21:50
#28
Yes
If preferable, have
Yes
If preferable, have something like an acution hose and a posting for buying and selling
like so
Auction:
item: time left: seller: price:
iron gear 20 min deadlikeyou 9001crowns
Posting would require a down payment of the price offered/item and would go something like this
Buying:
item: Buyer: price:
Iron gear DeadLikeYou 300 ce
Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:02
#29
We need this so badly another
We need this so badly another thread has spawned in this section about it!
Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:32
#30
+1 to this we totally need it
+1 to this we totally need it ASAP please :)
Fri, 04/08/2011 - 13:25
#31
+>9000
+>9000
Sat, 04/09/2011 - 14:33
#32
Ahhh please add an auction
Ahhh please add an auction house, or at least share your opinion on them, OOO :(
Sat, 04/09/2011 - 16:46
#33
Seriously, the ease of
Seriously, the ease of contact would probably lower the price on most mats. I know I'd like to be able to sell my useless swordstones without going over chat or whispering at people.
Sun, 04/10/2011 - 12:45
#34
34th'd.
The main reason I
34th'd.
The main reason I really feel that this is an important addition to the game is... SPAM. Non-auction games typically have their global chat channels in a constant state of spamminess. For Spiral Knights it is even worse, because there are so many different types of materials, and because crafting is efficient and easy to access, AND because many materials sit unused if the player pursues specific armor/weapon lines.
So everyone will always have lots of materials to sell, and the only way to do so on a large scale is to spam /zone with all of your materials, or the ubiquitous "lots of 0-3star materials for sale, PST".
The game really needs an item exchange of some kind even if it is only to reduce the above chat congestion. New players at the moment are greeted, as soon as they reach Haven, to a massive wall of trade text. Not the best introduction to Spiral Knights!
Sun, 04/10/2011 - 16:55
#35
Please no. The economy would
Please no. The economy would lose it's erratic charm. Implement a trade chat (across all zones) and we'll be good, though.
Sun, 04/10/2011 - 17:02
#36
Signed. Would reduce spam in
Signed. Would reduce spam in chat windows, would give a sense of worth on items, the AH could take a cut of CE from transactions (money sink), etc. This needs to be implemented asap if this game wants to last for a significant time.
Sun, 04/10/2011 - 20:14
#37
Using something similar to
Using something similar to the energy trader system would be GREAT. Given the sheer number of items, though, it would likely to be wise to have multiple traders. And hey, placing the vendors all in the town square would give a reason to go there besides the energy trader!
Not sure what sorting you would use...sorted by type, like the Grim, Primal, and Forge tokens, or a trader per material star rating both seem pretty reasonable to me. And a trader for recipes, sorted by equipment type like with the normal vendors. It would definitely be a welcome addition.
Mon, 04/11/2011 - 07:58
#38
Totally, totally agree with
Totally, totally agree with this. Sometimes it's so hard to sell some stuff because you have so many different things, and it is not alway the case that the "buyer" is online to buy the goods ur selling.
Make an auction house, call it a "Marketplace" be default with different tab to put your stuff up for sale, like materials, weapons, hats, tops, shields etc.
the fee on equipment should be something like 5%. If you would be selling an owlite shield for 5k (just an example) it would cost you 250 crowns to put it up for sale.
for materials make the fee like 1 or 2%, that makes it more attractive to put ur mats in the marketplace and wait for it to sell, recieving a message your item has been sold, and the money has been added to your account.
overall this makes spamming /z decrease, and is now available for crafting help, and for the really "big items" liek 5 stars.
i think this would be awesome, who agrees with me! =)
Mon, 04/11/2011 - 13:52
#39
You need to drop whatever
You need to drop whatever you're doing and implement this as soon as possible. The longer you wait, the more materials will be piling up in arsenals because it's currently way too much trouble to sell them. As it is, it's going to take months for prices to stabilize.
Mon, 04/11/2011 - 19:54
#40
Agreed
Agreement with all that has been said. Except Deathbreak, cause s/he doesn't want it. GRRRR. =)
*BUMP*
Mon, 04/11/2011 - 20:25
#41
There is no good
There is no good justification for why the game does not have an auction house, or some similar centralized trading system.
The developers ought to be embarrassed by its continued absence.
Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:46
#42
Seriously, the trade chat
Seriously, the trade chat needs only be for crafters and people who want help.
As for organization, I imagine we could have a marketplace vendor for each type of equipment (like how Ricasso sells bombs and Vatel sells recipes, only with unique people just for the marketplace). There would be one for swords, one for guns and bombs, one for recipes, one for helmets, etc.
It'd be so much easier that way.
Mon, 04/11/2011 - 22:59
#43
We need this because Penny
We need this because Penny Arcade said so >.>
Mon, 04/11/2011 - 23:20
#44
Some form of Auction House
Some form of Auction House needs to be put into play.
Tue, 04/12/2011 - 00:13
#45
Quote of the most recent
Quote of the most recent example of this sentiment: There is no good justification for why the game does not have an auction house, or some similar centralized trading system.
Time.
Software development takes time. You can't just open up a copy of WoW, run to the auction house, hit Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V it into spiral knights.
Three Rings seems to have invested an awfully large amount of their time in developing a game that is fun to play, without which what good is an auction house?
That said, it would be very nice to have one, and I hope it comes sooner than later; but there is a very good reason the game doesn't have an auction house and you're playing it right now rather than having to wait a few months for secondary features to be ready.
Tue, 04/12/2011 - 07:43
#46
+1 totally needed! I hate to
+1 totally needed! I hate to spam "WTS:..." all the time :x
Tue, 04/12/2011 - 08:26
#47
It would make the game alot
It would make the game alot better if we could get an AH
Tue, 04/12/2011 - 09:31
#48
Srsly.
Something to make the Bazaar more of a bazaar is a must! (You'd expect a bazaar would be where you can sell stuff...to other people.) We can't read or see anything while going through the clockworks, and, maybe vending would be a great way to pass time while waiting for ME to generate.
Outside of vending, an auction house. Got to T2 and need one more simple item? Have no fear, the Auction button is here! And then to add to it, the item request thing from a post up above. It'd make recipe hunting easier. Someone needs the annoying Striker recipe! They're willing to pay 7.5k, and/or some CE! Make some spare cash and help a person out. As for auctions, multiple payment types. The person will accept either CE or crowns. Or, the person can sell for both. IE : Sell a calibur for 1000 Crowns, or 50 CE, or 1000 crowns and 50 CE. Plus, we'd have a mini-ingame database if we can search for what we want. It'd be nice if we could see stats on weapons/armors and the like, but anything works.
Tue, 04/12/2011 - 12:03
#49
Agreed, with thoughts.
Having somewhere to buy/sell items besides the global chat would make life a lot easier for everyone, but it needs to be implemented properly. I like being able to haggle a bit with the seller, and the fact that I can offer CE or materials if I don't have enough crowns.
An auction format with a "buy it now" option (or whatever you want to call it to avoid potential lawsuits from eBay), with the ability to offer more than just an amount it crowns, as I said above, would be optimal. Likewise, having a trade chat channel for those wanting immediate results alongside an auction system would be a good compromise.
The chat system might need to be revamped a bit to make this feasible, though...there might need to be an actual chat box with tabs that allow you to switch between chat channels, rather than having everything dump into the same space.
Tue, 04/12/2011 - 12:06
#50
I heavily agree. An Auction
I heavily agree. An Auction House/Bazaar system that doesn't include shout-floods or overclog of characters standing around vending heavily helps the economy of a game, and makes it much more enjoyable.
I agree whole heatedly having some sort of centralized trade system or "auction house" should be included in this game. I have been having trouble finding materials to make 2 star items, but I'm not willing to sit around spamming "WTB Monster Bone" for an hour.