Heyo. The question I'm wanting to ask is whether it's perfectly fine to have two spiral knights client open at one time, using the same computer, or if it's a bannable offense? I have some good friends that do this and I'm quite worried that they may be banned for taking advantage of some certain levels by looping when they could earn profit like the rest of us and not have something that may have a chance to go against them.
-Arigatou
https://www.spiralknights.com/support/#mail
ive sent such a question before, but i didnt particularly ask about looping
ull have to send an own email and make sure to exactly describe the situation in order to get the kind of answer ur looking for
i regularly use 2 clients to mule cr/ce
There's no benefit to running more than one client, as you can only control the active screen at a time. also, with AFK boots as they are, you have to remember to pay attention to your alt. I use all my alts for crafting, nothing more.
I posted it and the posts got deleted.
The message I got from support was that they didn't want me to post topics about using alts to loop levels that have coins/heat on the ground because its considered an exploit. They didn't specifically say that looping was an exploit though so up to you.
As far as multiple clients its only to do with the client installed from the SK page itself, the one from steam you have to do all kinds of proxying and such since you can't run multiple steam clients on the same machine.
There is definitely a benefit....why not get 4 times the amount of crowns/heat when the only thing different is 2x the hp on mobs. If the levels are already so easy why not get 4 times the crowns/heat at once?
I'll repeat what i said in this thread: http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/18745
Based on how OOO has treated Yohoho! Puzzle Pirates players, you use as many paid accounts as you want. by "paid accoutn", I mean you have spent real money buying CE from OOO, not just CE with crowns. OOO limits you to creating 3 free accounts per computer per some period of time, I think around 90 days, and over the years I've made about a dozen YPP accounts.. You can launch multiple clients on the same computer if you want, but of course that will cause them to all share ME.
The need for multiple accounts, especially unpaid accounts, is much less in SK than YPP. If you are using this feature to do bad things, expect to get banned, but that is for doing the bad things, not for using multiple accounts.
I have heard nothing that contradicts my experience with YPP, but I anyone knows of official statements to the contrary, I would love to learn about them.
I think it's ok in some situations. Me and my brother have one computer. To trade, we have to open the game twice, otherwise we have to pay mailing fees, something most wouldn't have to do. I think they should just keep people from making multiple accounts, and make it so multiple cilents cannot sign onto the same to the same account.
Multiple clients can't sign onto the same account. You'd disconnect the first client by logging on with the second. And I echo what wrs1864 said; you won't get banned for multiclienting. You will get banned for breaking the rules, whether you use multiclienting to do it or not.
Hello my fellow Anatidae (duck). You post makes sense. That is all.
Lequack and Duck are the two posts that answer this thread the best imo. Do what you want with accounts. If you want and can open 35 clients then do it. You can'tget banned unless you exlpoit something. In this case you still have to manage and create EVERY account you have and keep them open soooo......
Multiclient = Ok to do
Breaking rules = not ok
Looping arenas= ok unless OOO states otherwise
That is all
Looping arenas= ok unless OOO states otherwise
Uh, no. The ToS says don't exploit bugs. There is already code to prevent the obvious ways of looping levels, which implies that the non-obvious methods are an exploit. Until I hear from a ringer that looping is ok, I'm going to assume that it probably isn't. You can make your own decision, I put your above claim that it is ok in the same category as people who say that scamming is ok.
So, is looping levels allowed or not? It's not a bug right?
As far as I have heard, looping a level using an anchored knight (stationary account) is considered an exploit and should be avoided. This is what I've heard from other players, and it does indeed sound like something Three Rings would consider an exploit.
Normally, you should get a message saying something along the lines of "Unable to join party until it has reached Depth 8/18/29," but if done correctly you can take advantage of your stationary account.
I guess it'll be an open debate until an admin comes by to confirm it for us, and I guess we can spread the word from there (if allowed).
Is it an exploit? Is it bad? Does your conscience prick every time you do it? If yes, then it is BAD! It is an EXPLOIT! And you should not do it! EVER! But seeing as how you posted it here asking if it is OKAY to multibox then, i guess you kind of know its BAD! SO you should not do it! EVER!
Uh, I don't think launching multiple clients is an issue, but rather looping a level, most commonly an arena.
Well I had guild that was looping arenas. They didin't get banned at all.
Next weak I will get GOOD pc and will use multiple windows for reapeating arenas with my alt.
Good luck with worrying about ban.
P.S. @tengutengu nice idea about crafting with alt.
I suggest, if OOO doesn't want people to do lvl loops with stationary alt accounts, it should send out an official statement as ingame message to all players that makes clear what exactly you're not supposed to do here. Or even better: fix it (like: noone can join an instance where he pressed less team buttons than in all "copied sub-instances" of this instance total). A lot of players are doing this looping and I don't think they are aware they're doing something wrong.
I think its not fixable.
But I admited that OOO added protection - shield breakes, and doesn't recover after several repeats of same level.
I don't think this is a "protection", you're talking of a bug that happens when you change focus from the window fast / often. It not exclusive to using multis, it happens to people that p.E. read emails while they're waiting for the lvl to rotate, too ;)
Also, this is definitely "fixable". Might just not be that easy depending on how SK / instances work. There's many possibilities, just an examcple:
- cloned gate instance could inherit "total team buttons that have been pressed during the run" from original instance.
- player instance history keeps original_instance_id.sub_instance_id.total_buttons_pressed for a while.
- If any one sub_instance had more buttons pressed than the sub_instance you're trying to join, then you can't. Or maybe: make it 2+ buttons more to make unpredictable "can't join bugs" less likely to occur.
... just an example. There's probably many other, possibly simpler solution.
What happens if you make two accounts then use one to pay your Elevator ride (like this u can get from D24 - 27 in vana and thats like 7000cr for free. should this be a bannable offense cus i dont think its fair tbh.
You've just necroed, Luke.
Here are the following rules:
No looping allowed.
A maximum of 3 free accounts allowed to be logged in at once. Paid accounts are not restricted by this rule.
Everything else is fine, there are restrictions in place to prevent exploitations otherwise. If you use one to pay the elevator ride, then there's still mist being used. And if there are two free accounts, they share the mist. So one paying for another's ride will consume 20 mist from your account.
Also, please check the timestamps of the previous posters before you post.
What is "looping"? I dont understsnd what you guys are saying is bannable.
Looping is a process in which you switch parties and take advantage of the "Go Solo"'s ability to duplicate items to run the same profitable levels multiple times (such as arenas).
Measures have been put into place to prevent it, but it still exists to a minor extent.
"ou use one to pay the elevator ride, then there's still mist being use"
Wrong. If 2 clients are open at once, even if both are free, the mist tank separates. It's like the server cant drain energy from 2 clients at once. Glitch? Exploit? dunno. Whetever doing this is right or worng is still debatable, they never answer my mails.
Is it a Bannable Offense to "Carry" your Alt through RJP to get your Alt Jelly Gems? I had Recently did this for "Rikku-The-Huntress" for her to Obtain her Antigua, nothing else. It is now a Silversix.
Nope, zou can do whatever zou wants with zour alt.
That is correct. You may have up to 3 free accounts with thier own seperate mist tanks open at once.
More than that is against the rules, you are exploiting a server bug.
Not that it's easy to run more than three clients on the same computer. My PC gets audio and video tearing at 4. Haven't tried 5 yet but I intend to.
GMs have even said it was okay ( they might not like the idea of it tho).
"Nope, zou can do whatever zou wants with zour alt."
Whyz are wez talkingz like Squizgarz?
Few days ago some scum made a topic about looping posting about having 3 alts join you (i.e. 4 clients at once), i inquired the support about what they are gonna do with stuff like that and reported that guy's thread and numerous other threads. The first thread that i reported was blocked from public viewing (http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/22556), the response from Cronus (from the GM team) was:
"Thank you for contacting Spiral Knights support. We have received your email.
In order to assist you, we will need to do a bit of research. We appreciate
your patience while we do this, and we will reply again to your email when we
have information to share with you."
I honestly hope all the exploiters will get the short end of the stick and the game will roll for the better not the dirtier.