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CHRIS of KNIGHTMARE - Lockdown Videos

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Sat, 11/19/2011 - 09:20

Chris

First I'd like to say, if you are going to complain about my gear or settings, leave now.
I use Auto-Target in lockdown
I use heart pendants.
I use max and very high UVs.

If you want to compete seriously in lockdown, you need all of these things. Just like in almost every other mmorpg, you are going to have to do A LOT of work to have the best pvp gear. Spiral Knights is no exception. Spend your time grinding up the money, or even better, working irl and buying ce, instead of qqing about every player who has put in the effort to get good gear.

It should also be noted that I am still looking to upgrade my Skolver Cap, Skolver Coat, Heart Pendants, as well as find a 4th weapon to use, as I rarely use my shivermist. I am far from the best geared Lockdown player.

Too many people asking me "how u so gud" at lockdown and asking me to teach them.
Uploaded a few videos.
Uploaded my best 4v4 and 6v6 out of about the 8 games I recorded.
May upload some more in the future, possibly with actual commentary and not just vent banter and loling.
This is how I have won the past 155/161 games of "Random team".

Also on a side note, Knightmare is looking to recruit a couple elite Lockdown players who can be at or near my level of gameplay.

4v4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MiiR0f4H5E

6v6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJlFNXHBAeY

Definately not my best games, plus I have only been playing LD for about a week now.
Hope you guys enjoy the videos and learn a lot!
Like + Subscribe for more awesome tutorials and fun videos. Currently rendering a full fsc+vana solo tutorial with commentary much like my fiends one I just finished.
Also just finished uploading a for-fun shadow lair video with some guildies.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 09:27

Beans

Buh.

Is anything as effective as Flourish/BTB+Striker?

Seems like it's the go-to of all the "good" players.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 09:31

Chris

It's just my style, EXTREMELY

It's just my style, EXTREMELY offensive.
I'm the same in every game I have played.

For example, Halo2, which I played professionally for almost 2 years.
Also, World of Warcraft and League of Legends.

I play VERY offensively in almost every game.

Also, it's the setup that takes the most coordination, fastest reflexes and the most skill to "master".
Anybody can striker around and swing but few have truly become masters of it.

I know scaisz is at the same "master" level of striker as I am right now, haven't played with or against him in a while, but the last time I did we were very at level with eachother.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 09:33

Evilduck

Your skills are average. You

Your skills are average. You only seem better than you are because you use a FF and, more importantly, auto target. I'd like to see you do as well without auto target.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 09:42

Beans

For the record, I'm not

For the record, I'm not saying you're bad or anything, or "cheap" for using Striker with Flourish.

No game is balanced perfectly; There will always be a top-tier setup when it comes to metagame. Just like Shotguns and K-Styling in Gunz, Revolver in S4, Metaknight in SSBB. There's always a weapon, character or playstyle that a skilled player will be able to use to be more effective than anything else in the game.

Obviously if you want to win consistently by making the most out of your skill and be the "best" you can be, you're going to use this setup.

I'm asking for that reason.

I was also in Impervious for a while, and Sciasz was unanimously considered the best player in the guild. I believe he described Finesse or another guild as "like fighting myself x6" or whatever number, because they also all used Flourish+Striker.

*Shrug.*

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 09:49

Chris

@ Duck, I haven't been

@ Duck, I haven't been outscored in my last 160 games, and I've only lost 6 or so of them.
I play almost identically with auto target off. It just gives too much of a benefit in situations where I'm using the last swing of my FF (which I rarely use) to turn it off.

Also duck, I outplay every other person with the same setup as me. Even ones with better UVs and heart pendants. The only person who I have played with who has been @ level with me has been Scaisz.

ALSO duck, i'd like to set up a few matches with/against you so you can see that I am by far one of the most outstanding lockdown players and that I play much better than the average FF/skolver user.

Why gimp yourself?

@ Tazurin
I outplay every member of Finesse I have ever played with/again, sadly we lose to them in guild pvp because the rest of Knightmare is not as geared or practiced as individuals and we are not as coordinated as a team.
As I said, the only person I've even seen @ my level is Scaisz, and that was only for maybe 2 games. If he says finesse is at his level, as far as INDIVIDUAL skill, I would have to say I'm better than him and he was just having good games when I played him.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 09:47

Evilduck

I think the flourish is cheap

I think the flourish is cheap and I also think the BTB is cheap. But I won't knock anyone for using them cause they're available and, well, everyone else uses them and if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. But I draw the line at auto target and I don't think much of people who use AT and then claim to be super good. If you can prove you're still as good without it then I will tip my hat to you, but don't boast of skills you don't really have.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:03

Chris

I don't like them, I ONLY

I don't like them, I ONLY used to use gran faust as a sword in LD, but since everyone else was using them I had no choice, I just happen to use it better than other people xD

Also Duck, every notable player uses AT, if you don't you are literally an idiot.
AT has nothing to do with skill, it just gives you a small % boost in performance every game.
You clearly don't know very much about the top players in lockdown and it is very hard to take you seriously.

Edit:
As you said with auto target, it's available and everybody good uses it, so if you can't beat em, join em! I use it for the same reason I use a FF/BTB, not because I Enjoy it and chose it myself, but because everybody else uses it and you HAVE to use it to be able to compete. After I started using both, I no longer compete, I just dominate.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:01

Shidara

Auto-Target?

Auto-Target only seems beneficial if you're using the Flourish-type sword. I can use any sword without trouble without the help of auto-target, but my one exception is the Flourish-sword. The second, and especially the third are very hard to strike with. If you misplace the swing just a little bit, your opponent will get away. It will take a lot of practice to use the Flourish combo with as much efficiency without as with. This is where auto-target comes in, because it gives you a "homing effect" if your aim is close enough. I am sure that anyone dedicated enough can come close to mastering it, but if you encounter a lot of skilled players, practice is going to be a painful process. So I guess we're just taking the easy way out.

So whatever happened to "don't use the full combo".....

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:01

Beans

"Also Duck, every notable

"Also Duck, every notable player uses AT, if you don't you are literally an idiot."

"AT has nothing to do with skill, it just gives you a small % boost in performance every game."

If you ask me, that's a bit of a contradiction.

From the looks of your posts, you're more interested in yourself than the specifics of Lockdown. I'm trying to talk effectiveness, and you are talking about yourself and who you're better than.

I don't care about you, I care about Lockdown.

Are you trying to be a competitive player, or a celebrity?

\ \

As for the morality of using Auto-Target, that's always going to be a matter of opinion, but I'm of the opinion it's too much of an advantage to say people shouldn't use it. That is, the benefits are too obvious and there's little to no negatives of using it on a competitive level. It'll obviously become the standard to use it. People who refuse to do so are willingly making themselves less effective in Lockdown. That's just how metagaming goes.

If you want to do that, fine, but don't expect the community to follow suit.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:03

#10

Chris

Read my edit in my last post

Read my edit in my last post Tazurin.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:14

#11

Evilduck

Anyone who has to use a game

Anyone who has to use a game mechanic for a % performance boost, however small it is (it's really not that small, though, because I've tried LD with and without AT and it makes a big difference), is obviously not one of them best players. You may perform better than most, but if you're using AT to achieve that then you're not actually as good as you think you are. Nor are any of the "top players" who have to use AT to perform the way they do. Take off AT and record some more videos and show us how good you really are.

@Tazurin All of his posts are riddled with claims about how awesome he is. If he's not claiming to be the best at something, he's claiming anyone disagreeing with him is a child or jealous.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:16

#12

Evilduck

Edit: As you said with auto

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:20

#13

Chris

Sigh @ duck, doesn't

Sigh @ duck, doesn't understand simple logic explained by me AND Tazurin
Just played a game without AT on, 22k damage, other team had 5/6 5* wolvers with GF or FF/BTB

No need to spend hours rendering and uploading to prove somebody wrong, I will stream without AT later after I clean up this nasty mess at my place.

Just proved factually I don't need AT to outperform EVERY person with the game gear as me. Everybody in the game who I outperformed (on my team) also said they were using AT when I asked them.

I play better than people using AT, without using AT. Clearly AT does not MAKE somebody good. AT just increases your current performance A LITTLE. Like having UVs.

Gear doesn't give you skill, either do settings, it's how you use them. Only a fool wouldn't understand this concept.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:25

#14

Chris

Now, enough of these silly

Now, enough of these silly arguments.

If you have a problem with my videos, my attitude and/or how I play lockdown, you can add me in-game, and we will set up a match or two with/against eachother.

If you outplay me, you can continue to bash my videos, attitude and/or how I play lockdown, if you do not outplay me, you can practice more and learn a little from my videos, which is the reason I uploaded them in the first place.

So annoying how many people in MMORPGs have to find SOME excuse for why they aren't performing as well as other players, instead of ACTUALLY getting better.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:32

#15

Evilduck

Upload a few videos of you

Upload a few videos of you playing just as well without AT and I will happily congratulate you on your skills. But right now all I can learn from your videos is how to use AT and, well, I already know how to do that. Tick the box and spam attack when I'm close to a player.

As for this logic I don't understand, go ahead and post it again. I see no logic from you at all. All I see is this:
"Also Duck, every notable player uses AT, if you don't you are literally an idiot."

"AT has nothing to do with skill, it just gives you a small % boost in performance every game."

And Taz responded to that with:
If you ask me, that's a bit of a contradiction. so I really don't know why you think he agrees with you.

AT does not create skill. It creates performance. You perform well but your skill is not up to scratch.

Edit: oh, and I'm not bashing your videos, I'm bashing your attitude. You don't have the skill you claim to have. I actually enjoyed the videos and I do hope you continue to upload LD videos because I like watching gameplay videos that aren't made by idiots. I don't claim to be better than you and I'm okay with that. I do claim to have a better attitude than you, though.
Another edit because I can't spell, apparently.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:40

#16

Chris

But again, setting do not

But again, setting do not give you skill, neither does gear, if you ACTUALLY cannot understand this concept, you are seriously stupid, if you are just trolling, leave my thread now.

People who actually think gear gives you skill, will always fail, regardless of gear, until they actually become skilled.
Settings are equal to gear, minus the fact that they are free to everybody.

I chose skolver because it is the best for my playstyle.
I chose AT because it is the best for my playstyle.

Not using AT because you are too proud is just idiotic.
Skolver is to Vog as AT is to no AT. One is better, smarter and an obvious choice. Don't be stupid duck.
Performance is Skill + Gear + Controls. Two can be controlled, one is determined by the person playing the Knight. You're failure to understand this is outstanding.

I'm also not claiming anything, I uploaded gameplay videos which will show you what my skill level is.

Will be ignoring all future idiotic/troll comments about AT/gear

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:41

#17

Vaclavv

ಠ_ಠ

What did you do to Sharkiez?

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:48

#18

Draycos

My eyes are bleeding.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:50

#19

Velcro

I prefer to play without AT.

I prefer to play without AT. Not because of the stigma associated with it. But because I find it screws up some of my attacks. Specifically my Callahan and sometimes Brandish charges, making me attack the wrong target. I figure if I just continue to not use it I'll just develop a natural AT that I can apply to my fancy.

If anything, I'd say the most important piece of gear for any Striker are (Edit: A FF or BTB) and Heart Trinkets. Just so you can survive 'just' beyond where people expect you to die. For instance I can OHKO most Strikers without Ancient Set or Heart Trinkets, but with them, they survive oh so barely.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:58

#20

Chris

Strikers without 2x skolver

Strikers without 2x skolver or heart pendants can be 2-3 shotted by BTB/FF of a max damage striker.
Strikers who take damage a lot are going to die regardless of gear though, as levis, who has 2x true love pendants, couldn't even kill me after 2x CE revives when I was camping a point next to his base.

Strikers first need a weapon they can use very well, then they need armor that suits them well, for most it's skolver, then they need heart pendants.

A Striker with 2x tetra-heart pendants (better than even I have) and a Leviathan + vog isn't going to be much of a threat, lol.
Whereas, a striker with no heart trinkets and a final flourish + skolver, will be able to perform just fine.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:59

#21

Chris

@ Kim-Dale How do you know

@ Kim-Dale
How do you know I'm not Sharkiez?

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 12:34

#22

Sciasz

@ChrisI never post on the

@Chris
I never post on the forums but someone brought this to my attention and I could not resist. Yes what Taz said is correct. I respect the Finesse players and compare myself to them and vice versa. LD is just for fun and I'm not sure why you take it so seriously. As for your comparison of us and you saying you're better than me because of my Finesse comment lol... honestly I don't care if you are or not I just find it funny that, that is how you came to your conclusion. I notice in your original post you mention being 155/161 in random ld matches. Out of those 161 I participated in only two against you and one them is below. In any case there are many great LD players and we're all at the point where we can have great games and really awesome games... that being said lets have an LD Allstar game! Someone start a poll and we can vote people in or something lol.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/pic1ab.png/

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 12:17

#23

Chris

Those sir, are the same

Those sir, are the same picture xD
Nearly positive the second time I played against you I had 24k damage and you had 21k damage also
Although i could be wrong.
I'm probably going to start screenshotting every post-game report.

I want lockdown to be team based rather than guild based where you can create teams with friends.
We could easily make an unstoppable team with a few of the game's best guardians and recons.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 12:16

#24

Sciasz

Oops lol i must have deleted

Oops lol i must have deleted the other. No in both our random matches(which happened back to back) I beat you twice with a commanding damage score. In our 2 matches in guild vs guild ld the damage out put was much closer with me edging you by a few thousands.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 12:25

#25

Eclecticmessiah

im laughing at just how sub

im laughing at just how sub par your opponents were.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 12:45

#26

Velcro

Here's something, what do you

Here's something, what do you the 'best' 4 weapon set? For anyone to answer.

Clearly I think it should include either FF or BTB since these are just far away superior to anything else melee-wise generally.

Then any three of:
- Brandish or Fang of Vog for some nice Guardian shield smashing and Striker OHKO'ing (Though less useful for Strikers)
- Sentenza or AP to harass mist bombers
- Polaris for sealing off entrances
- Callahan or perhaps Umbra for killing fleeing enemies
- A shock, stun, or freeze mist bomb
- Gran Faust or maybee Divine Avenger for heavier damage when necessary

I think that covers the majority of weapons used, with the exception of some more uncommon weapons like:

- Nitronome
- Triglav and Sudaruska
- The other alchemers

Though another follow up question could be. Do you believe it's better for each member to carry a general set, say 2 swords 1 gun and a bomb or something like that, or each member to be specialized?

Personally I think my favourite, as a Guardian, would be:
- Voltedge
- BTB
- Sentenza
- Callahan

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 12:48

#27

Chris

Striker: FF/BTB GF Argent/Sen

Striker:
FF/BTB
GF
Argent/Sentenza
Voltaic/Stun Bomb

Guardian:
FF/BTB
GF
Argent/Sentenza
Voltaic/Stunbomb

Recon could do well with a polaris though, for blowing up crowded points.

Yeah... Lol

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 13:10

#28

Iamwetoddid

So would you be happy for

So would you be happy for normalized gear where everyone is on the same playing field?

Or would you be mad that they took your op gear away from you?

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 13:20

#29

Chris

I'd be mad they did it after

I'd be mad they did it after I bought the gear, if they made a new kind of pvp like super brawl and made it normalized gear I would be okay with that. As long as it didn't give greater rewards than Lockdown.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 13:48

#30

Iamwetoddid

how about just have two

how about just have two versions of lockdown one with normalized gear and autaim off

and one staying the same it is now

that way everyone with op gear can play against each other

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 14:22

#31

Rubyeclipse

"@ Duck, I haven't been

"@ Duck, I haven't been outscored in my last 160 games, and I've only lost 6 or so of them."

Just gonna leave this here: http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594702185027508028/828ED119DAD1DF5487B...

But if you have played 160+ games over the course of three days, good stuff. Would love to go another round with you - or be there for a guild match this time. ; )

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 14:32

#32

Velcro

Actually that brings up

Actually that brings up something.

How many of you actively CE rez? Personally I 'almost' never CE rez. If we're virtually tied in both points and apparent skill levels AND I have a +10 second revive countdown then I usually do, but beyond that I don't.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 14:45

#33

Rubyeclipse

If there's 18-20 seconds to

If there's 18-20 seconds to go and the CE rez is anywhere under 32, I'll almost always go for it.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 14:47

#34

Eclecticmessiah

Ouch Ruby your first post

Ouch Ruby your first post stung ;)

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 15:15

#35

Nicoya-Kitty

I don't think I've ever done

I don't think I've ever done a CE res in lockdown. Not that I can remember anyway, might have goofed around with it once or twice.

Mostly because I do lockdown when I'm bored and out of energy. Same reason I don't bribe. (That's not entirely true, I throw in a few mist now and then on the bribe just for lulz)

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 15:59

#36

Sypsy

More people need to post videos

The only thought I could think of is that your turns could be tighter. Other than that, things look as expected.
You also do a full 3-swing combo far more often than I would feel comfortable (no heart pendants here, no asi uv's --> speed trinkets.)
But at the same time, you have a luxury I don't, which allows you to be more offensive....

Your opponents were such noobs, even the 5* ones. I was hoping to be able to get some good pointers to take out of the videos to apply to my game, but didn't see anything. You run around far less than I do, but I think that's just a tactic thing.

I'd be more interested in your GVG experiences (because I have none) since they would offer a higher level of play than what you showed here.
I also play with skolver/ff w/ max asi & dmg, so the style is very similar.

Hopefully I would be in a match with you in the future see how things are in real time.

For your last weapon, have you considered the polaris? I prefer it to the AP, but I wanted your thoughts on it.

I'm keen to watch how other players of this style are so I can learn some things that I may not have figured out. If anyone else has videos, please post!

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 16:07

#37

Chris

I don't play very seriously

I don't play very seriously xD especially in random team.
I just have fun is all :)

@ ruby
Actually in the past 3 days I've played 180 games or so now.

@ whoever talking about ce rez
I only do it on mist or if the prize is worth more than the cost of the CE
And usually only on a 12+ rez timer.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 16:19

#38

Njthug

...Guys I have to be honest I

...Guys I have to be honest I think to be a god in this game if you can get over 20k Damage in a 5* fight only using Proto weapons you are the best =0.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 17:01

#39

Evilduck

I never said gear makes skill

I never said gear makes skill either, so that's an irrelevant point to make.

Anyway, I'll say it again, I think you're a good player. Just not as good as you say you are because you use AT.

And I'll say this again: I enjoyed the videos and I hope you upload more. Actually I hope all the decent players in this thread decide to upload videos because I enjoy decent gameplay videos.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 19:25

#40

Chris

Cheers duck.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 13:31

#41

Swarleysparkles

Moved/Copied from Knightmare's Guild Recruitment

Hey Chris,

I really didn't want to interfere with your self-initiated rival with Sciasz but as the other GM of Impervious, I can’t just let this slip by simply because I LOVE my guild. It’s grown substantially clear that you just can’t take a loss but always like to take that additional step to criticize your opponent which brings me to the guild LD game we had earlier today: http://imageshack.us/f/821/imperviousknightmareld.jpg/

I really don’t think you had a right to criticize my members for playing what they did and calling our spontaneous strategy “boring”. Clearly the comment “All hold right click and walk slowly … Lol” is just being self-justifying but I am really quite offended and appalled at your lack of sportsmanship for other players, and I can’t help but to question you as the GM of Knightmare.

We love to play LD as a guild for fun and in the follow up game with you guys, even without Sciasz and myself, we only lost to your guild 885-900 meaning Sciasz isn’t necessary but just nice to have. Sometimes it’s okay to say gg, respect other good players and leave it at that.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 14:06

#42

Chris

Double Post

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 14:11

#43

Chris

Simply said I don't

Simply said I don't understand how you can stand playing 5 guardians 1 striker, absolutely nothing to be butthurt about.
No need to bring your bullcrap into my thread.
The rivalry between me and Scaisz is due to him lying about the games I played against him, first uploading 2x of the same screenshot with different links because I out-played him in the other game and then blatantly lying about it.

If you were actually upset you would have contacted me via pm so now you can leave my thread and stop trying to make me look bad.

Next time you can upload the whole conversation as well.

The only reason we lost to you, was because we had 1 skolver (myself) 1 half skolver half vog, 2 full vog, and 2 people in 4.5 star gear. None of which had heart pendants or uvs.
You had 6x skolvers.

The next game, your team still GREATLY outgeared ours and we still managed to win, even with a player who was in their first lockdown game EVER.
When you have a problem with me, you PM me about it, otherwise expect to get slammed publicly for your foolish attempt to make me look bad.

Exposed, and have a good day.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 14:24

#44

Vlad

Out of the 4 games I played

Out of the 4 games I played w/ Chris, he out damaged me 3/4 games and won 1/2 games (The one he lost had a leaver) we played against each other.

Who needs screenies :)

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 14:35

#45

Mayaura

Got a few questions about Lockdown

I rarely play it since I just don't find it as fun as regular play, but I know there are three different shields or positions, yet you seem to only be talking about the striker position. I assume that's because it's the one that allows you to do the most damage. So, are the other two positions not as important or necessary? Would you want every member of the team to be a striker? What weapons or gear would be best for the guardian? for the invisible one (can't recall the name right now)? Bombers seem to help but wouldn't do much damage, so how would you measure their success/skill? It seems that, although striker may also help your team win, people choose striker mainly for personal/individual bragging rights.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 15:14

#46

Chris

<3 vlad@ MawashimonoStriker

<3 vlad

@ Mawashimono
Striker is the most offensive of the 3, I really get bored as hell playing Guardian and recon

It kind of goes like this:
Guardian - Very defensive, slowest, easiest,----meat shield like support player
Recon - Half Defensive, Half Offensive, medium speed, moderately difficult----versatile strategic player
Striker - 100% offensive (even when defending a point), fast speed, high difficulty----damage dealing high reflex player

If you have ever played league of legends, Strikers are like the carries, Guardians are like the tanks/supports and recon is like the offtank/tanky dps
Your best player should be playing the carry (Striker), and if you have no guardians (support/tank) you are going to lose.
Recon doesn't really have a huge role in competitive LD though, sadly.

If you want to win competitive LD, you need 6x skolvers with heart pendants, 4 or 5 guardians and the rest strikers.
Boring though.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 15:23

#47

Tuhui

Chris really likes striker

Chris really likes striker for it's aggressiveness. The other classes aren't bad, they just have a less aggresive play.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 15:28

#48

Velcro

I don't know how exactly you

I don't know how exactly you can say one class requires more skill than anything.

I would say that Striker requires a better internet connection and computer in order though all classes benefit from that anyway.

I mean there is skill in Striker in being able to circle around enemies and strike-shield cancel well enough to try not to leave yourself open as much.

But there is also skill in all classes in being able to time sword swings to hit before the other hits. A perfectly designed computer could, in theory with appropriate UVs, always hit you before you hit it. Mind you that is an unrealistic view of skill but it's in the right direction.

Similarly there is skill in all classes in choosing the right weapons, changing and using them fast enough, being able to optimize returning home to recover/change gear all on the fly.

There is skill in being able to time charge attacks 'exactly' when they're charged if necessary. Skill in accuracy with weapons that don't work with AT. Skill in staying on a capture point while 'just' avoiding mist clouds.

There is skill in all classes in predicting where Recons are. And subsequently there is skill in Recons being able to trick people into thinking they are elsewhere. (A note here, I don't know for sure but I've heard some say that Auto-Target severely nerfs Recons in this aspect since it targets them even while invisible, but I don't know this from experience)

There is skill in Guardians in choosing when to shield, how to position oneself within a constant radial distance of your allies. Also skill in shield canceling here as appropriate shield canceling can render you fairly un-hittable.

I just feel it's far too much of a dynamic beast to be able objectively say one class is 'easier'. Easier maybe to play, in a decent fashion. But to master the classes?

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 16:13

#49

Chris

Guardians can help their team

Guardians can help their team by just holding down right click and walking towards their teammates. They literally do better NOT trying to kill people in most team vs team situations. Guardians who are doing anything other than holding down right click while two teams are fighting (until their shield goes down) are doing it wrong. This is why I find them the easiest class.

Recons can also do the same thing, helping their team greatly while holding right click (or whatever your shield button is) while near enemies, except recons need to attack AFTER their mark is up AND avoid being hit while applying the mark. Recons who stay out of the fight after their mark is up are being useless.

Strikers literally have to be attacking at all times, and when their striker is down they need to have positioned themselves correctly for a proper recharge.
They are only playing correctly if they are doing damage or making enemies chase them while they recharge while not taking damage. Very difficult class to play because of this. You literally have to be attacking someone at pretty much all times.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 16:40

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Orangeo

"First I'd like to say, if

"First I'd like to say, if you are going to complain about my gear or settings, leave now."
I just left.

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