If I could use what I could save up, then I'd save it all up and not bother with an elevator pass. It would be very similar, only free. Not likely to happen. Either play every day or recognize that you won't have optimal crown earning potential (which really isn't that big of a deal)

I support this idea, it would make the game more approachable and would only make it more fun.

I know like three steam buddies who tried the game and were turned off by the mist and CE system, they didn't like that you could only play one run a day. They also felt like if they didn't play they were "wasting" mist as you can't go over 100. While I love the game, I agree with them on both of these points.

Some days I'm not in the mood for playing at all and other days I have loads of free time and my buddies are on. I hate having to turn down my friends when they offer to play because I'm out of mist or because I'm saving for playing with someone later. This mist regeneration thing kind of makes the game feel like a job.

I also think this wouldn't affect the economy much. One could say this would result in more crowns flooding in from more runs being played but I don't believe this would be the case. There are already profitable alternative ways of getting rid of mist like crafting and hoping for UV's or playing lockdown and immediately filling up the bribe meeter. You could also say that this would result in more people using their mist to craft for UV's but if they are already signing on to deposit their mist they could craft anyways.

The only real problem I see is if people didn't play for a long time and could save up massive amounts of mist to pay for elevator rides. This could be stopped by having caps on the amount of mist the bank can store at one time.

Seems decently balanced. Store your 100 mist one day when you can't play much; then go on a run another. You want to do another run, so you go back to Haven, refill, and go back for another.
Although I think it should require a small crown payment for transactions. Put in 100 mist and you might be charged 350 crowns. Put in 10 and it'll cost 40. Putting in 25 might cost 70. Basically, you divide it by whatever amount it is; for example, if it's 50, you'd divide 350 by 2, which is 175. Then if it's an odd number, like this one, you round it up to the next ten. So it'd cost 180 to put in 50 mist. With my example of 10, 350 divided by 10 is 35, but I rounded it up to 40.

NICE!

Admittedly when I first saw the string I was very doubtful because like others I would think it could risk downing crystal energy sales, BUT the way you have it set up is very practical, and also one of the other things is that I always thought it wouldn't work if automatic because one part of why they do it like this is so you do come every day, sort of forcing your interest in the game but with this it would not be automatic so you would at least have to come online to dump the mist into the bank.

And of course the way you have it so that it doesn't effect the tank somehow extending its capacity also effectively keeps it from being used as an alternative to ce.

Then lastly I also support the idea of transaction costing some small amounts of crowns, but my idea is that it would be 5cr per unit of mist when depositing, that way you don't have to have round numbers for it to work just right, and 500 crowns to deposit 100 mist is not bad, come to think of it as mist is usually valued for computing and accounting sakes at 50 crowns per unit its a 10% fee, just like the auction house.

The last issue I could see is that many use buying trinket slots or other such usables to dump there mist and then that makes them available for discount ce selling but even at that it would still make it easy to use mist just for that, as in you can deposit 25 left over mist one day, 10 another and so on and if you ever need a usable purchace you can make it yourself or even sell any of the times as you can fill your tank quickly turning your mist into ce in the transaction with other players.

I think I shall bump this with a few additional thoughts and such,

A. This couldn't even really replace ce for runs in the long term because whether or not you purchase ce your mist will still replenish at the same rate so say even with the above limitations of its portability and how much you can hold on hand you do want to store amounts that could replace purchases you would still have to wait the same amount of time as you do now, only difference is now is the time constraint on when you have to use it.

I mean, well okay the starter pack for example comes with 7,500 ce for 20 US dollars, so 7,500/100 = 75, so in order to get the same amount of energy in mist as you can get for 20 bucks you would have save mist and play virtually none at all for 75 days just to get that energy which still has the limitations that mist always does and that does not make up for the bonuses that come in the pack, mist tanks, (which unlike the bank would be accessible anywhere/when you want) armor if I remember right and some usable items, one of the reasons though I am a patient person I still say that ce is very much worth the purchase and I would buy if only I had a practical means to transfer funds to my steam account or even directly to spiral.

Having to wait 4 + 8 days just to turn my fireburst brandish to combustor not including recipe crown costs plus materials and that being the one and only thing I am thus able to work towards at the time is a real drag, even with mist bank being able to purchase "time" and maybe even selling some ce to get crowns for the ce by selling so instead of gaining the needed crowns with my fireburst on runs I can go right to using my more powerful combustor on runs potentially making them more profitable.

Now where I might see an issue is with the new elevator passes, not as a replacement but in combination, as I understand it one of the "downsides" of an elevator pass compared to buying ce for runs is while unlimited for it to be useful/practical you have to use it more times to get free rides then the free mist would have provided in the same amount of time your pass would last you anyways or at least find a way to dump your mist every day, now if you had a bank you COULD save that mist your not using sort of doubling how long they last so long as you only do a couple runs a day you have 100 spare mist for the same amount of time your had the elevator pass before it expired.

However I think the solution is rather simple and actually already suggested, a limit to the bank, now while I admit I am one of those people that just love building up large stocks of various goods and hoarding them a cap of 1000 would really be about as much as you need for practical purposes, 10 days mist is plenty to work with and yet would still provide the flexibility that I think is the major point of those who would like a mist bank though another thought is maybe 1000 is the free player limit, perhaps there would be various not yet defined ways to raise this capacity or get a second "bank account" like you can get different accounts in real world banks.

B. Clarify "Flexibility"

One thing about mist is not only do you have to come on every day but I think the bigger hassle is you have to come on at roughly the same time every day, come on too soon you don't have a full tank, come on to late and not ONLY have you lost out on mist BUT now your mist will not be at full again until just 2 hours before the same time the next day.

Like say you wanted to go on a run with a friend but you know that they will not be on for a bit and your mist is already full, so now you have to either go now without them or find some way to down your mist by only small amounts, there are some ways to do this but a bank would still be far more convenient, just come on at YOUR regular time, dump your mist then come back later and use what mist you have built up and whatever amount you need from your bank to hit 100 then the next day when you want to go for your normal run you can put back the other mist in your bank and complete your run back on your NORMAL schedule.

An example would be you like to do your runs at roughly 2pm your time but your friend doesn't get off work or school until maybe 6pm-ish your time, now you have to either use your mist with out him or find a way to dump with some precision about 20 mist and not much more or less, and even then the next day because you went on that late run your mist will not be all the way full at the time you do want to do your usual run, your mist will not be full so not to run out just before the good strata until about 4pm your time which might be a time your usually doing something else and not free to be at the computer.

This situation makes it more inconvenient to interact with others in this way, BUT if you could deposit your mist at your regular time then when they came back you would have gained about 20 mist you withdraw only 80 as that is the max of your tank, then the next day when you are ready to play and your mist is only at 80 you can withdraw that 20 mist from yesterday and your put back on your regular scheduled.

and it doesn't even have to be for friends, I don't mind playing almost everyday because well THEY'RE FUN!
However what time each day I am able to go on runs can change, I might have to do specific time related chores that being real life take president over computer games or maybe even something like a doctors apointment, so do want to play this day just can't at that exact time and find ways to use only 10 to 30 mist when you might already be pressed for time can be annoying, or if you want to dump your mist your now will have an empty tank and cannot run at a later time like say in the evening or you will mess up your mist count and not be full by the appropriate time the next day.

Anyways these are my additional thoughts, they are a looooooot longer then I thought they would be but I still think they say want needs to be said

yeah, and thanks, it did get way longer then I had originally intended *blush* but didn't see much that I wanted to cut.

And another thought that hit me while in the shower was perhaps how the mist bank could be activated,

rather then have it fully functional to start with its only able to hold 75 mist, enough to get new players interested in using it but not enough to be really useful.

The way you get the capacity up is by giving CRYSTAL energy, not mist or crystal, ONLY crystal will work, for story line sake why this is will be because the crystal is utilized to make essentially an energy sponge, the bank will only be as big as what you gave it to use for your storage crystal, give them 100 ce you have a capacity of 100, give them 150 and it can hold up to 150 and so fourth up to 1000 which is the max (or at least an example max, maybe could be more)

But two things to know about the process of making the holding unit in the bank is that;

1. Once used for this purpose the ce is rendered unusable as an energy source, you can't just close crystal and get your ce back

2. You cannot add on little by little to the crystal, the way the crystals are made into this form keeps new bits from being placed without breaking it so if you have a current capacity of say 250 mist and you want to move your capacity to 500 you can't just give 250 additional ce, you have to give a full 500 to replace your current crystal for this to work, and again if you want to move to a capacity of 800 you can't add 300 ce on top, you have to use a full 800 ce, and agian IF you then want the full out 1000 capacity you have to donate the 1000 ce, so how much ce you want to make disappear rather then using for crafting or whatever is how much of the less stable and usable mist you can store, for me I think I could only bare to make room for a 500 mist holding crystal as I am still working on crafting my t3 stuff

@scootsy
That's exactly why I said:
"I do agree this is MUCH more balanced than using alternate accounts"

I still think a limit would be perfect to prevent overuse.

Imagine you can't play for a whole month for whatever reason. If you could just log in once everyday and save your ME in the bank, by the end of the month you'd have 3000 energy saved. Even though you wouldn't be able to use it for crafting etc, it'd act like an Elevator Pass, considering that:
3000 E = 300 depths in the clockworks = 50 Snarby runs = 37 Jelly Runs = 33 Vana Runs.

Basically unlimited access to the clockworks for some days, UNLESS there was a maximum limit of storage.

I'm not saying your idea sucks, I actually like it.
I'm just trying to explain why the devs wouldn't apply it in the game the way you presented it in your original post, without a storage limit.

I actually think that CE prices will go down, now that it will be used more for crafting and less for clockwork runs, which will lessen the demand.

Not the worst mist overflow I've heard. It would only slightly decrease CE sales, since you can't hold over 100 mist. OOO could compensate by making more rose regalia/battle pack/starter set items. It dosen't really solve any problems though, T1 players would still have a rough time. It dosen't really do that much at all. I don't like the Idea of being able to stockpile energy in any form though. I'd rather just have dormant energy give me more crowns per monster if used on a level.

"If you seriously want to make a ton of armor, then you have to wait."
No, you can still only carry 100 on you. So you can't pour 800 mist into an alchemy machine, you'd still need 700 CE. That's the one appealing aspect of this. So you cant play from the terminal down either, becuase you would have to go to haven for mist. CE is still required, but people wouldn't freak to make sure they get their moneys worth per day. I see people flip if they don't spend all of their mist.

Okay, maybe my reply was extremely vague-
Mist Banks is like waiting a day to get a free extra 100 energy day after day. No needs of work (except for heat and crowns). I see problems here.

But heavy, we already get that 100 mist everyday, the only thing this would change when you have to use it, now, later, or next week.

This is not just for those that play free but its not like everyone who suddenly has ce suddenly disregards their mist, many of them want to take advantage of mist as well,

I guess one other idea to keep this from being a perfect storage place and keep some pressure on people is if maybe the mist in the bank slowly leaked, lets say at about 1/4 the rate you gain mist, so if one day you store 100 mist in the bank and come on the next day you will only have about 75 mist in the bank, this would mean that you still loose mist BUT its far better then loosing all of it and if you want to try to store up to 400 mist in 4 days by the time you get to the fourth day you have already lost 100 mist so you still only have 300, and remember you paid 500 crowns to deposit that 100 mist you stored that is now gone without a trace.

But this would make it then impractical to save any less then 50 mist for a day and where the bank would have only needed OOO to draw a new character and spare a portion of memory for the mist accounts now they need to implement a reverse timer on a different clock then the mist gain tank, not sure how much more program that is to work bugs out of but its definitely an increase in work and things that could glitch.

The problem is, this mist is mist that otherwise would have disappeared, or used to craft (lower crown yield). If players can store their mist, especially if they can do it automatically, all that mist that would previously have just disappeared unused, or used for crafting (which has a lower crown yield than dungeoning), will now be used for dungeoning. Hence the higher crown influx.

...because you can tell the accountant the amount(etc.) and get the desired energy. I LIKE IT!

But what if it's in the arsenal as a USABLE or ARTIFACT?
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Anyhow, I like it.