Spiral Knights - Easy ideas which OOO could implement into the game

Easy ideas which OOO could implement into the game

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Fri, 01/06/2012 - 04:26

Ztype

These are easy ideas (easy for OOO to implement into the game). Before you read this please note I may have read someone's forum and accidentally copied some of it (it may be in my head) without knowing so please do not accuse me of plagiarism.

Easy Ideas:

1. Auction hall in guild room: (Bioxide suggested this in a thread)
OOO could just duplicate the auction hall from the Haven into the template they keep for all the guild halls (or whatever they do to style all the guild halls at once).

2. No more new bosses, but more games like Lockdown: (An idea I have had)

You may think I have gone crazy, but seriously what is the point of new bosses? Games like Lockdown are much more exciting as you can not finish them, you can not complete them. It is as if new bosses is like a racing car game - once you have finished it you hardly play it again, but Coliseum Games is like a game like Monopoly; you can not finish it! Anyway people still challenge vana including me for the cr and mats, but do you not think there are enough bosses? I reckon more people would prefer to play Lockdown than the Clockworks.

Not so easy but profitable ideas:

1. 5.5* Weapons: (An idea I have had)
My idea is that you could upgrade the types of damage/resistance etc. on some weapons for a price. Eg. you could increase the damage of Gran Faust so it will cause Elemental Damage (with different levels of course) or change the combo into a 3 shot combo. You may say this will make lockdown unbalanced. But lockdown is full of FFs, BTBs, GFs you name it. If this is implemented then people will come in with all types of equipment.

2. Customisation of Guild Halls: (Many people have mentioned this)

There could be training halls which you could purchase for a fee and more. My next idea is includes other suggestions for this idea.

3. Special shadow Lair Tokens: (Dagunner suggested this in a thread)

Making special shadow lair tokens is the easy part, but I do not know if making new weapons will be easy. Instead the tokens could be exchanged for equipment/guild hall customisations. Eg. 70 Rabid Snarby Tokens = 1 Rabid Snarby Training Hall.

Ideas which OOO should NOT implement into the game and knights should stop suggesting (no offence meant - even I made a suggestion about pets once):

1. Pets: (Many people have suggested this in many threads)
One word - Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag. Another word (well actually a phrase) - What is the point?. Another phrase - What are we going to do with them? I know they can aid you in battle but the game is easy enough since the update. It is unfair on us vana harvesters since the game is easy enough already since the update and it is unfair for people who have got slow network connections especially wifi people (I temporarily had to use SK on wifi, trust me, it was HORRIBLE)!!!

If you are reading this, OOO, please regularly check the suggestion forums, as people are posting ideas like these, which are really good ideas, for free.

Note: I shall update this forum with new ideas and if you would like to suggest any changes to my ideas that would be appreciated (I shall say who they are from). Thanks.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 06:16

Bopp

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More Lockdown games seems like quite a reasonable way to get more content into the game.

Are you the guy who suggested Shadow Lair tokens in another thread? Shadow Lairs already give special materials. While materials are not the same thing as tokens, the two ideas seem kind of redundant.

You are correct that guild halls are terribly boring and neglected. However, your ideas for guild halls have been suggested many times. There is even a meta-thread that attempts to consolidate suggestions for guild halls.

Your idea for "5.5-star weapons" could be implemented by letting weapons have a new kind of UV: increased elemental damage, increased piercing damage, etc. I don't know whether this is a good idea.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 06:58

Juances

"increased elemental damage

"increased elemental damage UV" makes undead and construct damage uvs even more useless, and I'm a bit confused on how it would work with damage bonuses and calculations.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 07:13

Ztype

@Bopp

I am not the guy who suggested about different shadow lair tokens and I know people have already suggested stuff for the guild halls, I am just trying to show OOO easy ways of upgrading the game. You have a point about the UVs but the fact is that UVs have damage bonuses against monsters and two types of monsters are weak to piercing, two are weak to elemental etc, so that would be like putting to UVs into one and some people hate the UV system anyway. Also people may get elemental damage increased for free (with upgrading) if they are lucky. But on the other hand some UVs are more overpowered than others. With my system people can like customise their weapons, a bit like accessories.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 07:43

Melisan

"I am just trying to show OOO

"I am just trying to show OOO easy ways of upgrading the game" Hahahahahaha.
"If you are reading this, OOO, please regularly check the suggestion forums" Hahahahaha.
"Monopoly; you cannot finish it" er....pretty sure you can. Monopoly - The EXCLUSIVE possession or control of the supply or trade in a commodity or service.
Everything here is patronising and the only new suggestion is the weapon upgrade which is completely flawed. Instead of making a new thread full of old ideas, just add your "suggestions" to current suggestion threads?

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 08:13

Ztype

This is what Melisan

This is what Melisan said:

""I am just trying to show OOO easy ways of upgrading the game" Hahahahahaha.
"If you are reading this, OOO, please regularly check the suggestion forums" Hahahahaha.
"Monopoly; you cannot finish it" er....pretty sure you can. Monopoly - The EXCLUSIVE possession or control of the supply or trade in a commodity or service.
Everything here is patronising and the only new suggestion is the weapon upgrade which is completely flawed. Instead of making a new thread full of old ideas, just add your "suggestions" to current suggestion threads?"

First of all, I know Monopoly can be finished, but it is very rare it would be finished. I just couldn't think of a better comparison.
Second of all, all you have to say is hahahas which means you have not got a better argument. You are just trying to attack people aimlessly. I wonder why you feel the need to attack people aimlessly?
Third of all, my weapons idea is good since people will then stop talking about 6* weapons. Also, it makes the game more flexible.

If you, Melisan, hate my ideas, why not suggest what I could do to fix them? Or do you have no ideas for yourself? Since you have not mentioned any ideas yourself in your reply and when I checked have not suggested any ideas in a new forum, why do you attack other people's ideas when you have none of your own?

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 08:18

Ztype

I do not add my suggestions

I do not add my suggestions to current threads since I am trying to get OOO's attention (if you noticed I fist put it in General Discussion where OOO are most active and then moved it here). I know most people would like OOO to read the suggestion forums, since they put up ideas in suggestions.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 08:18

Ztype

Do you have anything to say?

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 12:51

Melisan

Well, OOO do read the

Well, OOO do read the suggestion forums, you have then purposefully put this thread in the wrong section, your points are daft with no real thought on how they would actually work within the game, the comments of yours that I quoted were laughable and brainless and didn't really need any comment. And who are you to tell OOO what to do?

"First of all, I know Monopoly can be finished, but it is very rare it would be finished" Maybe you should learn to play monopoly?

Anyway, as i have said; the only new idea was the nonsense about sword upgrade. You could have just posted that, but you posted a load of other previously posted suggestions as a smoke screen.
"If you, Melisan, hate my ideas, why not suggest what I could do to fix them" I don't hate your ideas, they are just of no use to anyone except as an exercise in what not to add to any game ever.
Why did you quote my entire post?

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 23:47

Demonicsothe

First two ideas are great. No

First two ideas are great. No objections.

5.5? Upgradeable weapons? So we should see DA with cutter speed? Or cutters with heavy sword damage? And so 5.5 stops 6* whining. How about 7*? 8*? Lets just all get godmode weapons with even less variety than we have now.

Tokens and guild hall, nice ideas.

Whats wrong with pets? Lag? Haven lag is not exactly troublesome. Pets don't need to have combat added to them. Think of pets as accessories. Crownsink, anyone?

I play on wifi all the time, with music from youtube and my sister streamin korean drama from her computer. Sure, i lag. But i can dive on 2 bars. Not a huge deal.

Just my thoughts on why u suggested such things. Also note the things melisan said hah about. OOO reading forum/upgrading the game. Its the nature of gaming communities to not be satisfied at developers. How else do we get developers to give us what we want?

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 18:10

#10

Nacho

And cows. Dont forget cows.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 19:51

#11

Melisan

I said haha bout his sense of

I said haha bout his sense of entitlement. Everyone who doesn't get a response from a GM immediately thinks that it hasn't been read because "who wouldn't implement my ideas into their game? They rule." Seems to happen in their heads, and I’m pretty sure the GMs spend a lot of time trawling through the suggestion forums for ideas, posts like these just make it harder for them, and that’s why you should post in another thread instead of making your own. Unless your idea is completely unique and on a different topic.

edit ~ forgot the cows

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 23:39

#12

Biodragey

@Dominicsothe

I totally agree with you on pets they can just be accessories!

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 23:51

#13

Fehzor

This is kind of flawed.

5.5 star'd items- Many people are happy with their items, and it is a bit too late to implement this. It'd be kind of like all of the sudden making sealed swords craftable- everyone who bought UV tickets, and bought SSs would feel cheated.

No more bosses, just mini games- I like the clockworks, and I don't just play vanaduke all the time. I actually prefer to play through royal jelly palace, the roarmulus twins, and even nothing on occasion. I rather dislike lockdown, its like a crappy version of TF2 on spiral knights, with balance issues. Aside from that, it gets old just like every other part of the game. A new boss or two in T2/3, would be much better- more decisions when I want to go get tokens, and more weapons for me to earn from them, as well as more shadow lair armor.

Pets- As "fun" as they are, they are not human, they do not understand teamwork, and they are or would be in most regards counter productive, just like Mecha knights. And needless to say, I wouldn't want to join any parties that brought along pets that conflicted with my play style. The only suggestion I've seen for "pets" that I could agree with, was a bomb that made small friendly slimes come out of it. That would be hilarious, and awesome.

Shadow lair tokens are also a bad idea, especially for guild hall customizations, which should be available to smaller, T2 guilds, as well as large, Fitness/Knightmare-like guilds, that consist of a large number of amazingly skilled FSC players. And there is already shadow lair gear. Enough incentive.

Guild hall customization is one that I would agree with though- it is MUCH needed for the social part of the game. (trust me, I play minecraft classic)

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 00:22

#14

Nacho

Most but not all. I dont

Most but not all. I dont understand the one that says weapons.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 08:16

#15

Ztype

"Well, OOO do read the

"Well, OOO do read the suggestion forums, you have then purposefully put this thread in the wrong section, your points are daft with no real thought on how they would actually work within the game, the comments of yours that I quoted were laughable and brainless and didn't really need any comment. And who are you to tell OOO what to do?

"First of all, I know Monopoly can be finished, but it is very rare it would be finished" Maybe you should learn to play monopoly?

1. What proof shows OOO read the suggestion forums? I have never seen a forum labelled staff. Also I am just simply giving OOO a guide. Dont try and act all innocent now. You are the one who attacked me.
2. I do know how to play monopoly, I just play people who have a similar ability to me.
3. Some of the other ideas are also new like the guild hall tokens.
4. So you are saying that ideas which even you say other people suggest are no use? So are you attacking everyone?
5. I quoted your entire post because I wanted to. By the way you did not even answer all my questions which I put to you earlier. Why am I even arguing with you? I have got better stuff to do.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 08:53

#16

Ztype

You forgot the cows as well

You forgot the cows as well melisan. You said edit. So dont be a hypocrite.

Everyone else, thanks for your comments. I understand the 5.5* weapons idea is bad, I need to do some work on it to make it balanced. Im not sure yet. All suggestions are welcome! Sorry I forgot cows Nacho. :(. That is probably the best suggestion ever. About the pets I like the idea about bombs. Some other person who created a forum before I did has done one like this so please comment on theirs unless if it is about any of my ideas. With pets, the accessory idea - seriously, have we not got enough accessories? If you did have pets, are they not supposed to be interactive? The bomb idea will probably not be harsh on my internet connection, that is why if we ever have pets we should have the bomb idea.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 09:07

#17

Demonicsothe

wut

So having pets that work as bombs isn't lag inducing? When people have complained that the lesser quality computers all suffer problems when several haze styled bombs are put down?

Sure Melisan could have put the posts in a more constructive way. The points in them still stands, however. What did Melisan attack? That your ideas are stupid? That I have to agree. After all, the only idea that came from you was the 5.5* weapons.

If there is no proof of OOO reading the suggestions or the forums at all, then why post at all? Either Melisan is right, and your point there is moot, or you just defeated the point of posting suggestions.

"2. Customisation of Guild Halls: (Many people have mentioned this)

There could be training halls which you could purchase for a fee and more. My next idea is includes other suggestions for this idea.

3. Special shadow Lair Tokens: (Dagunner suggested this in a thread)"

Suggested in other threads is new because you put it here? Moving along. The problem was not your ideas, but the way you presented them. The self entitled-ness of the entire post, does annoy people. Would you like a random guy you met on the street tell you how to do your job simply because he has opinions? Point was, the suggestions are either already out there in a larger thread, or have been bounced around so many times that most people know of it already.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 09:13

#18

Ztype

1. The pet bombs could be

1. The pet bombs could be like normal bombs
2. I edited the ideas
3. I put it in general discussion firstly then moved it into suggestions - I was trying to get the devs attention
4. Since Melisan did not like my ideas he/she could have helped me in making them beter.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 10:26

#19

Melisan

"Since Melisan did not like

"Since Melisan did not like my ideas he/she could have helped me in making them beter" Well, you can glue a smashed pot back together, but you will always be able to tell it was smashed.
You finally put this thread to rest. well done.

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