What is wrong with you, Basil ?
Tue, 04/19/2011 - 22:49
Seriously. I've done multiple dungeon runs, and MOST of the time when I get on 13F or 23F I either don't get 15k recipes or 45k recipes. Yesterday, once again I though he would have some nice recipes to sell to me on 13F, but I was WRONG ! He would only sell me useless junk. I always get 1k or 5k recipes. I tend to always get stupid recipes that nobody needs. I just solo'd my way to 23F 5 minutes ago for the first time, and this is what Basil greets me with:
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I started from 8F and at 13F, he wanted to sell me 5 1k recipes and 2 5k recipes. No 15k recipes. What is going on ? Am I that unlucky ? Does this happen to anyone else or does Basil only want me to hate him to death ?
Tue, 04/19/2011 - 23:11
#2
Basil is the games'
Basil is the games' troll.
'nuff said.
Tue, 04/19/2011 - 23:14
#3
second that
Basil is a scuppering piece of barnacle.
Yep. I've been "duo-ing" most of the time with someone who uses completely different gear from me and still most of the time he has nothing for either of us. Basil selling 2* in T2, or 4* in T3... that's kinda silly.
So far after countless runs I have yet to come across the Spiral Demo Helm, Pepperbox, Arc Razor, Vile Striker, Wise Owlite recipes. I just gave up and paid a little extra to have someone else craft the items for me.
Tue, 04/19/2011 - 23:47
#4
I posted about this earlier;
I posted about this earlier; this was initially in the Bug Report section, but Coriolis (GM) went down to a Basil and could get recipes. But my friends and I have done a few more runs today (altogether, some together, or solo), and we still haven't run into any 4* recipes on Tier 2. And ever since the previous patch to this one, we haven't seen 4* recipes, and still haven't.
Each time we see less than 10 recipes, too, which is really strange. Even if we never see a 4* recipe, surely we should see more recipes on >15 runs on different days.
With extra testimonials to this, we no longer feel quite so alone. Maybe we all have bad luck—or maybe this really is some kind of bug, akin to the Vatel bug a while back.
Oh well. We'll keep on going, and I'll keep on compiling lists of what Basil has (I only started keeping track three runs of mine back).
Tue, 04/19/2011 - 23:51
#5
You're not alone. After
You're not alone. After multiple runs in all four open gates over the last several days, I have yet to see a 15k recipe at the Tier2 Basil. I used to see them all the time (and oh do I regret not buying the Hunting Blade when I saw it that one time but dang, was I broke). Now? I reliably see 7-8 recipes, always 2* and 3*, evenly split between 1k and 5.5k.
I thought I was crazy. Coriolis even confirmed in a post (now moved to the Suggestions forum) that he was seeing multiple 4* items on a tier2 Basil. But no matter how many times I go to 13F, I get screwed every time. At this rate, I will have to trade for recipes with other knights just to get the next level for my gear to get into Emberlight. And if I have to do the same to get to Firebreak, I am not going to be happy. Frankly, I think something is messed up.
What do I have to do? Buy my way into Tier3 Basil just to get some stupid 4* recipes so I can get down to Tier3 Basil on my own?!
Tue, 04/19/2011 - 23:54
#6
I got my ashtail coat recipe
I got my ashtail coat recipe yesterday on T2, second time i've seen it in maybe 4 days (but could afford it this time) ... I don't know if today's patch screwed anything up, but yeah sometimes there's not much, but sometimes there's a ton of 4* stuff ... just most often not what you want. When you consider how many different recipes there are and how few you probably want (if you're just looking to upgrade your current gear) it makes sense ... it just seems hit or miss to me, but not broken...
Wed, 04/20/2011 - 00:08
#7
Barcs,
Well, I'd prefer to
Barcs,
Well, I'd prefer to see 4* recipes that I don't want than to see none of them at all.
Ah well. Will keep recording away. Hopefully this isn't like the "some people don't get any good loot ever" strangeness.
Wed, 04/20/2011 - 01:10
#8
Similar
Getting very tired of the T3 Basil having not a single 5* recipe.
Wed, 04/20/2011 - 01:13
#9
I'm not at T3 yet, but for
I'm not at T3 yet, but for T2, my basil usually has 4* recipes about 25% of the time. Not a high number, but at least it isn't 0.
Wed, 04/20/2011 - 03:20
#10
Why are you complaining about
Why are you complaining about not getting 4* recipes and then showing us an almost entire 4* recipe list on T3? Just because you didn't get it on T2 doesn't mean you're not getting them. The amount of 5* recipes compared to 4* and 3* is not a small number. You only need 4* to unlock T3. Walking in there each time and getting a 5* recipe is stupid. At least you're guaranteed on getting multiple 4* recipes at T3.
Wed, 04/20/2011 - 03:27
#11
I've did numerous tier 3
I've did numerous tier 3 speed runes just to get my hands on a bunch of tier 5 recipe's and he does that crap a lot I think more than half the time I've found him he only had tier 4 stuff its just really bad luck >_<
Wed, 04/20/2011 - 03:49
#12
I would like to know, from
I would like to know, from the devs, if Basil's selection is simply random, or if various factors (possibly including the stratum types or player performance) influence his selection.
I haven't seen a 4* recipe on Tier 2 Basil in about three days.
Wed, 04/20/2011 - 07:30
#13
Ezzi, I haven't unlocked tier
Ezzi, I haven't unlocked tier 3 yet and haven't seen 4* recipes in days. Maybe it's not a problem for the OP but it sure is a problem for me and my friends. I know we can just get regular stuff from Kozma and level it, but we've invested so far into the Wolver and Gunslinger lines (not to mention various weapons and shields) that starting over from scratch is galling.
Wed, 04/20/2011 - 08:41
#14
Anecdotal Evidence: Get better gear to see better recipes
This is very anecdotal (i.e. not backed up by hard numbers), but it seems to me, playing a couple of different characters, that Basil will tend to have recipes that only slightly increase the quality of your gear. So, for instance, you'll only see 1* recipes in tier 1 if you're still using your proto gear, but if you upgrade a couple of things to 1* or 2* items, you'll start seeing lots of 2* recipes. Similarly, when I first started T2 in all 2* gear, I saw mostly 2* gear and a few 3* recipes. I didn't see any 4* recipes in T2 until I was already using some 3* gear, and now that I'm using one 4* item and all the rest are 3*, I see 4* items every time I visit Basil in T2.
So, if you don't see the level of gear you want, try to get one or two items of that level (use the Cobalt line if you have to) and Basil may offer you better stuff the next time you visit him.
Wed, 04/20/2011 - 15:57
#15
Icee, But the thing is I
Icee,
But the thing is I already have a Khorovod, Graviton Bomb, and otherwise 3* armor and weapons, and still get no love from Tier 2 Basil with respect to 4* recipes.
Do you mean I have to have all 4* gear before Basil will yield 4* recipes again?
Wed, 04/20/2011 - 16:05
#16
I've been to T3 Basil five
I've been to T3 Basil five consecutive times without any 5-star recipes offered. I'm in full 4-star except for my 5-star sword. I also haven't seen 4-star recipes on T2 Basil but a couple times lately.
However, it's just randomly generated. Not a bug in the system, not Basil being a meanie-head. It's just how the system is sometimes.
Wed, 04/20/2011 - 16:12
#17
The problem with "randomness"
The problem with "randomness" is that it is faceless and soulless, and if there are thousands(?) of people playing this game, chances are a couple are going to get the short end.
I'm not trying to dismiss your complaints - I'm not getting too much from Basil either. But just remember - the devs aren't out to screw you. It's easy to fall into the mindset that the whole game is out to get you, but the very nature (and purpose) of chance is that it doesn't single out anyone.
Wed, 04/20/2011 - 16:32
#18
I don't think people are
I don't think people are assuming the devs are out to get them. I myself just think it's a bug, which doesn't ascribe malice to the devs. And I do joke about Basil being mean, as I'm sure others are doing. ;) We know he's bits on a hard drive getting blasted over the intertubez.
Basil is a scuppering piece of barnacle.