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Amazing LD Stat line

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Sat, 03/10/2012 - 01:57

Bighondo

So we were having a pretty fun GvG match with one of Jempire's teams, a rather close match that unfortunately ended up with us on the losing end. The bit of disappointment I had though, was quickly washed away when I saw the the game report .

Check out the stat line of my fellow gunner buddy, Thisnameisinuse. 17.5k gun dmg (using a combo of umbra/valiance/polaris)...simply ridiculous. That may very well be the highest pure gun damage game ever posted. What impressed me even more though was that he didn't do it in your average random game, but in a GvG match against a team of 6 Skolvers, where things are much more chaotic and high damage numbers are much rarer. Goes to show that with some thought, you don't need any of the crazy uv's, skolver sets, and everything else that people like to complain about in order to have fun and be successful in LD.

Anyways, just wanted to share this, as I thought it deserves some recognition.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 05:03

Good-Spirit

Very nice! The sky is the

Very nice!
The sky is the limit, keep it up!

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 07:54

Xylka-Mkii

Your friend did it, beat

Your friend did it, beat Blueflood's Damage even! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIOqBP0VC-M

And he's right above my post lol

Anyway, nice

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 09:58

Fluffyfoxxie

Wait, you guys did decent

Wait, you guys did decent against Jempire? Were BOTH teams CE reviving like crazy? Because I know for sure that Jempire spams that shizz like there's no tomorrow.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 10:28

Bighondo

I don't think so Fluffy.

I don't think so Fluffy. Their more serious team with Ruby/Bacon/Waur/etc (who we played earlier and got crushed) tends to CE rev alot, but there didn't seem to be much CE revving at all going on in the matches we had with this version of their team.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 16:57

Inflatos

You gunners give LD some

You gunners give LD some hope.

Great job.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 17:46

Fluffyfoxxie

@ Bighondo Ah, cool. It would

@ Bighondo

Ah, cool. It would be nice to face Jempire once without them spamming CE res. It makes the game really unenjoyable.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 18:58

Waur

seriously?

@fluffyfoxxie ok we in jempire don't spam ce revives -_- and by spam u mean using our mist on the 2 and 4 mists? your not even in our team when u face us and u accuse us of ce reviving when u don't even know jack. next time u accuse a guild of something get your facts straight first -_- and if your too cheap to use your mist in lockdown u have no business in tier 3 gvg. what are u gonna complain about next? our uvs? or maybe u would like to complain about auto aim? honestly I'm fed up with people accusing jempire of ce reviving like crazy when they barely have any proof.

@bighondo grats to ur guildmate ^_^ he's a great gunner and i hope he gets better :)

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 19:50

Xairathan

2 + 4 = 50000!!!!!

^ What Waur said. Also, remember that one thread where [name not stated] accused [Name also not stated] of CE rezzing... and their mist went up by one after a few matches? Exactly. I have not known Bacon and Waur to CE rez often, and they are among our best lineup. I am a B-team Recon and I reach maybe 8-16 CE rezzes per match, depending on what kind of day I'm having and whatnot.

My point is, if you're facing our A-team you'll have a lot less CE revs than if you're facing me and my, uh, [Weapon Name Redacted].

P.S. That is godly gunner damage. That beats me on my average good recon day D:

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 23:53

Fluffyfoxxie

@ Waur I call it as I see it,

@ Waur

I call it as I see it, buddy. You guys were captained by RubyEclipse (I don't remember you being there, however) and mere seconds after we down your players, you dash straight back. We played 3 consecutive matches against the same team, same result. I don't understand how a team can sustain that for the duration of an entire match whilst only using their "2 and 4 mists" as you put it? I call bull.

And no, I'm not going to complain about autoaim, as I could care less about that. I'm also not going to complain about your UVs. That's all fair game.

The fact that you have to justify it by saying "and if your too cheap to use your mist in lockdown u have no business in tier 3 gvg." pretty much proves your stance on the subject of CE res.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 00:30

#10

Sypsy

Thisnameisinuse is amazing.

@ Fluffyfoxxie

Not sure how you took a celebration thread and turned it into a topic which is completely unproductive. What a debbie downer.

Also, you like to sterotype. Chill out. Just because some ppl may have a reputation of ce reviving does not mean everyone in that guild does. I've been in matches w/ Jempire many times and not everyone ce revives beyond what one would think is reasonable, as previously mentioned throughout this thread.

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Back on topic.

Thisnameisinuse is amazing.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 02:10

#11

Tennis

I was thinking about how

I was thinking about how useful Valiance actually could be in Lockdown and then I realized that Valiance is the only 5* gun that shoots moderately fast bullets with a magazine size of 3 bullets. I might just have to make myself one and see how good it is in Lockdown. ^^

Back on topic;
Thisnameisinuse is truly amazing.
I'll remember never to go Skolver if I'm in the same game as him.
I'd probably embarrass myself even more than I usually do, lol.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 07:33

#12

Xairathan

@Tennis

What about Alchemers? (Have never gunned, so IDK)

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 10:25

#13

Bighondo

Tennis, that's exactly what I

Tennis, that's exactly what I was thinking when I crafted myself one a couple months ago. Although I wasn't very good with it (kept forgetting that it wasn't an alchemer and shouldn't be fired like one), there was definitely potential in it. The fast bullets, the 3-shot magazine, and a small but very interesting knockback to go along with it. Unfortunately I grew too lazy to get better with it, and it wasn't until a month or so ago when I met Thisname that I saw it working @ its full capability.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 11:30

#14

Tennis

@Xairathan Alchemers have a

@Xairathan
Alchemers have a magazine of two bullets.
But they still shoot pretty speedy bullets which is good.

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 16:35

#15

Thrillhaus

I've noticed a few gunners

I've noticed a few gunners using valiance lately, and while the bullet speed looks like it's great for landing hits, the damage is quite low due to the normal damage being resisted by anyone. I think the AP/Sentenza against skolver does about the same amount of damage per hit. Is the valiance really worth looking into for a gunner loadout?

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 16:54

#16

Shoebox

Valiance shoots Hadoukens on

Valiance shoots Hadoukens on charge attack. So yes, it is worth it.

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 17:04

#17

The-Rawrcake

Even if someone can go

Even if someone can go without needing crazy UV's, skolver coats, and everything else... toothpicks are still in need of a nerf, and that is for PvE too.

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 17:34

#18

Bighondo

@ThrillhausTennis and I

@Thrillhaus
Tennis and I tested some gun damages recently, and although our collective memories are a bit hazy, I seem to recall that with max damage bonus, the Valiance outdamaged the AP/Sentenza by a bit (i think it was like 3.5 bars of dmg/shot compared to like 2.5) . He was testing on my Justifier gear, which I believe has the same normal defense as Skolver.

Along w/ the nice rate at which you can fire, each bullet also has a small but effective knockback on impact. If used well, as Thisname can do quite often, it can become very difficult to even get near you.

And yes, the charge attack is freakin' awesome.

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 17:59

#19

The-Rawrcake

Oh wow, that is refreshing to

Oh wow, that is refreshing to hear something great about Valiance. Personally, I am terrible at gunning in LD but find it so much fun, but I still get frustrated with the whole toothpick thing.

Bighondo or anyone who has used it, how awesome is the charge attack? I am trying to decide between getting up a blaster with a UV CTR med or if I should go for an ASI UV.

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 20:55

#20

Tennis

Personally, I just use the

Personally, I just use the Valiance charge for laughs.
It'd be interesting to see how much damage it actually does.

We should check next time, Hondo!

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 21:14

#21

Hijadestone

Wow

i am a tier 2 ld player but my best round was 8 capt. 2def. 5160 damage field reactor I dident die and I took the enemy's platfor right next to there base I killed 8 or 9 befor my team came to help and when they did I had half a bar of hp
BUT STILL AN AMAZING ROUND OF LD

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 22:07

#22

Bigfootm

What Dark Ritual?

@Tennis

With full Skolver w/o Normal defense UVs, Thisnameisinuse did 3 pips of health a shot with the Valuance (2 Elite Trueshots). @__@

Can't hit dat gunner with Mai toofpick.

Edit: Oh, charge. Derp.

Sun, 03/18/2012 - 01:33

#23

Shade-Nimbus

@Fluffyfoxxie So true. And

@Fluffyfoxxie So true. And shouldnt the fact that a LOT of people are saying the same thing say something? The Jempire does win by their money (both CE reving and godly UVs), but theyre too ashamed to just admit it :(

Sun, 03/18/2012 - 03:06

#24

Thrillhaus

Hondo, the valiance bullet

Hondo, the valiance bullet seems to have many similar characteristics to the alchemer line. Also it seems that the way gunners use valiance (dash, fire, dash) is pretty much the same as with the alchemers, negating the magazine size advantage. The alchemers also have the superior charge attack I think, though charge attacks are very situational in LD. It just seems that the valiance is outclassed in many ways compared to alchemers.

Sun, 03/18/2012 - 13:30

#25

Tennis

@Thrillhaus

There's a few things that Valiance does better:

1. The travel speed of Valiance shots seem to go faster than Alchemer shots, making it easier to hit targets since you don't have to predict/shoot in front of your target as much. It's also useful for shooting enemies that are running away as the bullet can catch up to them.

2. It also seems like the travel length of the bullets go farther than Alchemers'. This is useful for hitting enemies that are shooting Polaris or any case where your target is a bit out of your reach.

3. The magazine size of three bullets is actually very useful too, but most likely only when you have multiple targets. Me and Hondo tested if the second bullet does any damage to a target the the first bullet already hit. Unfortunately, the second bullet doesn't hit because the first causes the enemy to flinch and in that small time period, your enemy is invincible. It's like when someone is shooting their Antigua line at an enemy, making it difficult for his/her teammates to get any damage in. Anyways, back to topic; the capability of shooting 2-3 bullets at a time is useful for hitting multiple enemies.

4. The size of both the normal shot and charge attack seem to be larger than Alchemer bullets as well. Again, making it easier to hit targets or even multiple targets with the charge.

5. The knockback is actually pretty useful. If used correctly, take Thisname for instance, it's good for keeping enemies at bay. Also, when you release an Alchemer charge at a striker who's coming straight at you, they get hit and most keep boosting straight at you, which is particularly dangerous because after you release a charge, there's that moment when you're vulnerable. But if you hit someone coming straight at you with a Valiance charge, it'll knock them back a ways, leaving you enough time to prepare yourself.

Those are just a few reasons off the top of my head.
But just because my Umbra Driver does more damage, it's my main weapon.
The Valiance is basically my utility gun, sorta.
It has a wide variety of purposes which makes it very useful. :D

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