My top 5
1º Impervious
2º The Jempire
3º Apathy
4º Beware
5º Grundel Warriors
My top 5
1º Impervious
2º The Jempire
3º Apathy
4º Beware
5º Grundel Warriors
They simply never lose on fair terms
Apathy/Finesse.
Beside the unfortunate intangible one-digit losses, they won hundreds over matches fielding close to everyone in the guild and that is close to 30 over different members since Lockdown started, establishing the highest 3 digits winning streak record. In my opinion, it is much easy to win with just your best 5-7 players. The rest of the guilds are good but not even close to this acclaimed guild's prestigious history. Credits goes to Dredio and his team.
Impervious is really good, but I'm not sure if they deserve #1 on your list.
The Jempire is good, but they do have a lot of UV'ed weapons.
I don't really care if they CE revive, if they want to spend their CE that way it's fine.
But yeah, Apathy is probably the best. They might have UV's, but I don't think they'd lose even if the UV's were removed from their weapons.
Also, Knightmare is always a force to be wary of, along with a lot of other names, like Grundel Warriors, Order of Venus, etc.
I would say Knightmare. The individual talent in the guild is pretty strong in itself. We rarely GvG as of lately, though.
Grundel is very coordinated, and Jempire has great swarming ability.
Apathy/Finesse.
Knightmare too, but we rarely get the A team Online >.>
I'm not sure if that's an ordered list but I am both shocked and quite flattered to see Impervious as part of it. The main reason is because we only really play guild LD for fun so we can play together as a group where anyone who want to participate can join no matter their skill level. As a result, our team really varies as its always different, so important factors such as coordination and building a strategy is a bit more difficult and other times, we are simply outmatched. Either way, I do think we have some amazing LD players in Impervious so thanks for including us :P but due to time differences and timing in general, we've never really had our A team get together, otherwise I think we could definitely put up a good fight against any guild >:)
I would say Jempire, then Apathy, then Impervious.
All three have some really great teams.
1. Dreaded Pyromancers are a pretty serious upcoming LD guild.
2. Apathy (they have dredio and exileddread OMG they are so cute)
It's hard to determine a "top 3", "top 5" best LD guilds or what not, but below is a glimpse of SK's most well-known LD guild teams:
Grundel Warriors - Very solid team even before they merged with (now defunct) Sativa and was one of the first teams to beat Finesse back in the day. (Notable players: Opod, Snrub, Spamisalreadyinuse, Itth)
Apathy - The new Finesse, still has some of the original elite Finesse crew, but with fresh new elite players. (Notable players: Dredio, Exileddread, Jaroche, Saidxp, Erythrocyte, Entropize, Golza, Roarj)
Lockdown Aces - Dominant LD guild for Tier 2, no other group of duskers could own as much as they do. (Notable players: Rdzknightz, Arrovx, Doomrunner)
Order of Venus - An explosion waiting to happen, they lay low and play a little less gvg lately but has a top-notch and formidable A-team roster waiting to explode on any who dares face them. (Notable Players: Ezho, Freezingflame, Rhipdlvi, Nexzon, Emotionless, Jcasdfwer, Skybrandon, Craftyzen)
Reign of Chaos - With a couple awesome guards, they impeccably put the guardian/striker build to good use. Namewithnumbers has pioneered the AP+ Barb technique and has since spawned a small following. (Notable players: Meida, Namewithnumbers, Eldibs, Thengel, Peepa, Max-Killa)
Wolfpack Party - Unlike other LD teams, they dont focus much on being competitive but have a good roster of LD players nonetheless. (Notable players: Nardcore, Sushh, Redliaw, Bobxloblaw, Rockket, Citizen-Curious)
The Jempire - Has a good, diverse LD team and are tough to beat when their captain is on the gvg team. Their quick, frequent revives allows them to re-enter the battlefield and lay waste to unsuspecting victims. (Notable players: Rubyeclipse, Ellip, Waur, Baconstrip, Kennyn, Edzel)
Beware - Rather new to the gvg scene, this team is composed of the best Old School LD talents as well as some new faces. (Notable players: Darkcub, Kyored, Andersherz, Tpmuser)
Impervious - Highly skilled in adapting to multiple situations, they dont always go with the popular All-Striker teams you often see in gvg. It is sometimes speculated that Sciaz alone counts as 2 strikers lol. (Notable players: Sciaz, Swarleysparkles, Fodow, Produkt, Yfke, Plinked)
Knightmare - One of the top LD teams in its prime, this team is known for their aggresive play-style. (Notable players: Chris, Kennys-Knight, Timbalero, Tom-Awsm, Snarkey, Ailment)
now I hate to toot my own guilds horn, but I honestly think the top 3 in this game would have to be Apathy, Knightmare, and Reign of Chaos. In an honorable mention I would have to mention impervious, and beware. When we do get an A team together it's a tough team to beat
I'm shocked I'm on the Reign of Chaos "notable players" list for LD. I'm worthless in GvG if I'm not playing Guardian, though I did finally finish my appropriate Striker gear, and have been practicing with it in Randoms. Max-Killa should be on that list in my place. Just sayin'.
Also, Grundel Warriors is definitely at least trying to move up, if they're not already up there. I sold them numerous UV's over the past couple days that I hope they are putting to good use, and it's always a fun match against them.
You know what, I probably can't name three guilds that can beat you that don't have their A-team. Your guild is fantastic in LD.
Yeah, sorry. Editin' the post.
:D yeah....sry 'bout that.... -bolts off in a random direction-
Our parties today : Beware
VS Impervious :
http://i.imgur.com/7zRZH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QZE81.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6He4o.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RpZnw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0iOWq.jpg
VS Order of Venus :
http://i.imgur.com/peTc8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4ePQt.jpg
VS Nightmare???
http://i.imgur.com/isqdd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cj8LY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qgurG.jpg
This is the war ;)
I think that wolfpack party should be higher on that list because when they get their A-team they are hard to beat.
@Elidibs Oh whoops! How silly of me, I forgot about Max-Killa. But yes, he definitely is one of your notable players and is duly added, thanks.
Oh man I hate seeing Knightmare lose when I'm not playing
It's just sad to see the lack of defense omg :(
Skillwise, these are today's best lockdown guilds, not counting the now-inactive ones:
= Apathy
= Grundal warriors
= Impervious
= Order of Venus
= Knightmare
= Reign of Chaos
Notable mentions:
= The Jempire (if it werent for their excessive reliance on game-breaking uvs and ce revs, they might be be part of my top list)
= Beware (their kinda new, so im eager to see how they turn up in the ff months or so)
= Unity (their pretty baws in GvG but they seem to be entering a temporary decline)
= Wolfpack party (one of the newer ones, im sure they would become pretty eilite soon as they grow and adapt)
I'm waiting to face Apathy or Grunder Warriors with our team good
i'd love to face beware with our aces, we'll be the one posting the screenies :D
-btw, i don't see myself, canozo, chris, or kennys knight in any of those ld games against knightmare :P
-nor do i see sciasz or yfke in the impervious game.
-oov i understand they loose but not very often
i take that the screenshots from bewares gm is ''bragging'' about beating the ace guilds in lockdown. everyone looses to different guilds. no need to brag about getting some wins.
edited my comment to say what i meant.
@darkcub Apathy and Grundel warriors already kicked your ass so many times, what are you braggin about? Rofl.
Was it not the case that a sizable proportion of finesse members quitting due to boredom of dominating in both PvE and PvP? My question will be has anyone face the actual A team from Finesse, now Apathy, and beat them? Or is it a case of 6 random members in that guild are capable of beating the A-team elites of every guild? I heard this was the case back before Finesse went inactive.
I'm both shock and flattered that I made the list for Jempire. There's a first for everything I guess. XD I think that Jempire gets a bad rap because of bad rumors but I won't debated about whether or not they are true but I will say that I don't ce rez(at all! it's all mist) and that my uv are not good(inspect me next time if you doubt it). I am in the process of getting better gear however though it might take a while for that to happen(no money, there's a surprise huh?)
Anyways my best lockdown list would be(in no particular order):
Apathy(if they get the old finesse team back together for ld)
The Jempire
Order of Venus
Grundel Warrior
Reign of Chaos
All of the original Finesse GMs quit and so Dredio branched off and created Apathy with Exileddread, Hadn, Jaroche, Golza, and Stompt. Many of Finesse's LD greats.
Edit: Forgot Chromiax.
@ Darkcub: We fought with Beware a total of 4 times this afternoon, and are surprised you guys only showed half of the score reports. All 4 times we played, Beware had the exact same team of awesome players.
Here's the screenshot of the third match against you guys: http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o555/OrderofVenus/vsbeware1.jpg
4th and last match was was just like the third match, which also a landslide victory for OoV against Beware, but sadly I wasn't able to take a screenie of it.
I do not look, do not level the same team that won them 2 times in a row
These people CLEARLY know what they are doing.
But in all seriousness, I've heard quite a bit of buzz about The Jempire, and I've (somewhat) seen Impervious in action..
Also, loving the bit of smack talk going on here. Keep it up. Watching random peeps get upset over a video game is hilarious.
@Chyeahdude
Thanks for the information. This affirms my belief that the old Finesse not only beat teams and possibly dominate others so badly without relying on their best set up. The top lockdown teams for me will be
Apathy/Finesse ( New + Old elites )
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And then in no particular order
OoV
RoC
Beware
Imprevious
Grundei Warriors
Darkcub, looks like the pictures you showed were only the ones of you guys winning against the "C" or "B" teams of Knightmare, Impervious and Order of Venus. If those guilds set up a good team, not even your best "A" team will stand a chance, sorry dude.
Not that we're better than anyone, and do not tell me not A or B teams Beware because I think nobody knows, we are new at this, I'm just challenging them and annoying them a while xD
1-Apathy
2-Impervious
3-Order of Venus
4-Grundel Warriors
5-Reign of Chaos
This is all based off of the games I've played (Only havn't played Apathy in GvG, but seen them in randoms), and based off "A-Teams".
I'd throw The Jempire in there, but every match we played against your guys A-Team, once we killed one of you guys, was an energy revive every single time. The above guilds can win without Energy Revives. Not that you guys can't, but the above guilds, from what I've seen against us, have never-few energy revives.
Nice work to everyone, look forwards to playing some more GvG against you guys.
As I said, until a guild is capable of hitting 100+ winning streaks with proofs of using over 30+ members instead of just their best 6, this discussion is moot. We all know who's that team. Also, a video to boot that against the other elite teams, they don't have to CE res notoriously . Better if this was filmed from the perspective of from someone who was infamous for this. All good players are capable of excelling in interchangable competitive games without throwing money to the screen. This is why no self-respecting gamers take Lockdown that seriously, to the extent it is a win at all (monetary) costs competition for them.
Like i said before dreaded pyromancers are up and coming and will be dominating lockdown very soon.
as for currently I would definitely say banana hammock is the best lockdown team as it has notable players such as magnus, bighondo, chris and even blueberrymuffin.
unicorn youre forgetting lobster lords and dolphin riders they cood easil rival dread pyros. esp if lord pyromancer leaves the guild no chance in hell of beating pony princes. o yea best guilds in LD are the vempire and minions of reign of chaos. apathy nubs.
First off, i feel like most of you just enjoy misspelling "Grundel Warriors"
Secondly, Darkcub, get an A-team together and plan matches with big name guilds. Then prepare your face to be smashed into your keyboard. Repeatedly.
Finally, The few posts above me have caused this thread to rapidly descend into either trolling or just idiocy.
PS See if you can post the best single player in LD or per class (Gunner/Swordsman/Bomber)/(Striker/Recon/Guardian)
i vote:
Impervious
Apathy
Order of Venus
Grundel Warriors
Lockdown Aces (Tier 2)
Firstly:
Not to start a flame war but people in The Jempire don't have amazing uvs, yes some of us do have good uvs, though if you inspect us all you would notice we don't. We just practice and know how to shield cancel and all that stuff.
Secondly:
If you watched from our perspective during lockdown you would see that we don't CE rev like everyone says it's just a rumour, yes we do CE rev sometimes but not crazy like everyone thinks we do, we only CE rev when the counter is say maybe 20 seconds.
Thirdly:
We have skill like all the other guilds that have been mentioned, we play a lot of lockdown to practice and we have built a solid team.
~Willow.
I still want to do GvG vs Guild.
First thing I was looking forward when I came in Knightmare.
Lockdown Aces got owned by Jempire in T3 yesterday, might've been more fair in T2 (our specialty) but that's the way the ball bounces :P
Darkcub obviously is too ashamed to screenie his guild's losses as he claims his guild has won every single match they've played that day (scroll up).
I'm sure all of those guilds have beat Beware the same, or more in the games they've played Beware. Darkcub took pictures of impervious losing to them, and failed to realise and mention our best players left, with the remaining lagging.
If Apathy is actually Finesse reskinned, I'm not very impressed with the GM yet.
I would think Apathy (Finesse) is top since I heard that they only ever lost 2 GVG matches, and both were when a player disconnected.