STOP EATING TOXIC JELLYFISH!
Sun, 04/01/2012 - 02:38
And start playing the game, Once you do that, you will understand how to make a legitimate suggestion to this forum. With out people "shooting you down" or becoming disgusted at the brain barf that keeps cluttering this (Used to be nice) place.
Or, to use an analogy...
- Stop injecting yourselves with grave soil, gnawing on High Tension power lines, and then proceeding to Peel your nerve systems out onto the floor, and then posting what words you can find in that mess here.
Or,
Stop eating toxic Jellyfish and barfing what sense you had over your grandmother's prius....
Or,
Stop leaning your ears all the way through with cacti and giant spoons, That "jello" you pulled out was supposed to be useful to you, so please shove it back in and THINK.
Yeah, there is a reason I posted all this, and if you were offended, Please stop doing one of the above and go play the game.
Not only am I famous, but I inspire Hipster...ness... Yeah.
~Tsu
Sun, 04/01/2012 - 03:13
#2
+1
kthxbai
Sun, 04/01/2012 - 08:26
#3
+10.
Not a suggestion, but I seriously think we should have a sticky to teach people how to make good suggestions.
I'm really getting fed up with all the terrible ones I'm seeing.
Sun, 04/01/2012 - 09:43
#4
Oh cool... +10^
heheheh....
Not only am I famous, but I inspire Hipster...ness... Yeah.
~Tsu
Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:40
#5
Fun fact:
I've lost faith in the human race for the time being. Surely there is no doubt that the main cause of this problem is what some of the "people" suggest here on the forums.
See, the sad part is that they must be people - no one would ever program such illogical robots. Maybe Tsu is right about them eating toxic jellyfish, but whether they did or not, I can't accept them in their current state. I've given up on them.
I don't know if anyone cares, but I don't foresee myself posting anything constructive on the Suggestions Forum in the near future, so I'm just going to stop posting here for a while. We don't need more people posting things off of base-level thinking, so I'll just show myself out. I'll probably keep reading stuff and I'll probably throw expensive objects at hard surfaces because of it, but at the very least I'll save the rest of you from having to read my crap.
Until we meet again,
Schattentag
EDIT:
I lied. I was unable to resist posting one more dig. I sincerely apologize for my rash behavior. I'll log out of the forums now.
Mon, 04/02/2012 - 08:32
#6
As have I.
@Schattentag: Agreed, but I don't think you can blame it on humanity in general; the proliferation of the internet does create a form of delusion in most users these days that makes them want to take advantage of anonymity to flaunt their intellect (or lack of it thereof).
That being said, I don't expect any of the posters here to possess the verbosity of an English major, or possess an Intelligence Quotient of at least 130 according to the Stanford-Binet scale.
But I have come to the Suggestions Board under the basic premise that there are legitimate suggestions to be made, masked by hordes of posts that aren't even thought out fully; rather just existing as manifestations of some people's thoughts on "WHAT WOULD BE COOL".
This is not your blog. If you have come here thinking that you can defile the forums with such Neanderthal-esque expressions of your own selfish desires, you are horribly mistaken.
I don't need that, and I'm sure the serious posters would agree with me; Schattentag's emotional rhetoric exemplifies said point.
That being said, allow me to make one thing clear to all of you Philistines: Until you guys can post well thought-out ideas or suggestions that take into account the whole community, and possess the intellectual capability to defend your points logically, this Suggestions Board will never be taken seriously.
Not by me, not by the admins, not by anyone.
Consider this my resignation. I've given up trying to babysit idiots.
If anyone needs me, I'll be lurking about my commissions thread or my own suggestions, and a couple of other good ones (at least, according to my flawed, but moderately experienced sense of judgement).
I have better things to do with my time, like reading Nietzsche or studying up on international economics.
So. Goodbye.
UPDATE: Somebody thought I was a GM's alt. What has the world become?
Mon, 04/02/2012 - 09:10
#7
...
Its like a quantity over quality rampage... Uuuugh!
Tsu alt QQ's in disgust.
Not only am I famous, but I inspire Hipster...ness... Yeah.
~Tsu
Mon, 04/02/2012 - 10:10
#8
derp?
naem sid tuw ? traf snraf futts kadarbal
Tue, 04/03/2012 - 15:13
#9
Thats why we're needed
we are the beacon of light, the last semblence of sanity this forum has to offer to OOO. If we leave, all is lost. If we leave, then this forum will die. We are the force that keeps this forum alive, our sanity can and WILL encourage others, and our words will build monuments to the ability of a community. I will never give up on this place, I will help mold ideas to the best of their potential, and I will strike down trolls and their spamming brethren. You may give up on this place, and you are free to.But I won't. I never will.
Oh yea, and if you haven't seen my idea, it's a pretty good example of a well thought out one. I suggest seeing it.
-Dragaroth
Tue, 04/03/2012 - 16:53
#10
And...we're back!
After only about a day, I give up on giving up. Like Dragaroth said, people like us keep this place...somewhat bearable? Maybe?
Honestly, the only reason I'm back is because I'm disgusted to the point where I need to crack down again, but that's good for whoever's gonna be getting the brunt of my rage when it rises up. Deal with it, folks. It builds character.
Not gonna lie - I despise people whom I believe to be intellectually inferior to me, and unfortunately the majority of this community fits into that category. Some people in their self-righteous spiels on why their suggestions are worth my time and effort are simply unable to realize the fact that their suggestions are cruddy for at least one of several reasons. Maybe their suggestions lack any relevant details pertaining to how they'd be good additions to Spiral Knights, yet they continue to argue that their ideas are good ones. Why should I bother to continue encouraging them after I've tried to get them to come up with details only to have them tell me I'm a jerk for not understanding their little loads of crap? Some people are just plain stupid.
Others come to the Suggestions Forum with literally no idea that they're posting on a forum, where there is a community here to read and build suggestions so that OOO can better understand and consider players' demands. "Hey Devs! This idea would be really cool. Hear me out." We +1 them, we build on them, we rip them to shreds. We never hear from them again. Do they care? No; all they wanted was to say something cool. They don't care if their ideas are feasible, relevant, already discussed, or even already in the game. If they don't care, why should I? Some people are oblivious.
Yet others simply lack mental maturity, social awareness, or both. Suck it up, people! You're posting on a forum, and even if you're just incapable of grasping the fact that your suggestion sucks, we're going to continue shoving evidence down your throat until you shut up.
Again I ask, why should I? The answer lies in the fact that this is a forum. Morons will come up, because morons make up a significant percentage of the population and probability suggests that morons will constitute a similarly significant portion of forum-goers. I've got to suck it up and deal with them. It builds character.
Writing to everyone in this community, with love (for hate),
Schattentag
Sun, 04/08/2012 - 19:32
#11
Nothing but a big
Nothing but a big ol'superiority complex in here.
Sun, 04/08/2012 - 19:47
#12
...
I called myself cool when I owned at a Gundam Ultimate round...
...
I'm a self-righteous prick now aren't I? Q.Q
"Hey Devs! This idea would be really cool. Hear me out." We +1 them, we build on them, we rip them to shreds. We never hear from them again. Do they care? No; all they wanted was to say something cool. They don't care if their ideas are feasible, relevant, already discussed, or even already in the game. "
Q.Q http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/49662
/Cry
@Kitastrophy "Nothing but a big ol'superiority complex in here."
Not really, I'm also quite tired of people posting 'I want dis kewl thing here cuz I like it not sure if relevant but I tink is awesome No negative comments TINK POSITIVE plz' ideas/
Some people are just a little more blunt about hating on it though.
Sun, 04/08/2012 - 20:07
#13
lol.
Superiority complex?
Is it our fault that the average person who hasn't played this game for more than a day can tell that some of these Suggestions are ridiculous?
Not a superiority complex...some people simply don't think at all before they post.
~Sev
Sun, 04/08/2012 - 20:19
#14
Hey... i thought before i
Hey... i thought before i made my first post... maybe not that much....but a lil... k maybe not at all ._.
But i got better, didn't i? :3
There still be hope
EDIT : Sorry, this is Serell, i accidentally commented as my brother galidyn who forgot to log out xD
Sun, 04/08/2012 - 20:23
#15
What that user said up der be
What that user said up der be true
Sun, 04/08/2012 - 22:57
#16
S'cuuuuse me!
As a matter of fact, we, the ENTIRE SUGGESTIONS COMMUNITY ARE THE QUALITY CONTROL.
Yeash, I mean really? With out someone saying this is crap, and that's not, all we'd have are not well thought out suggestions that "Seem Cool". Yes, I have had disagreements with almost ALL of the veterans AND the newbies... in the end we come to an agreement. But lately all we've been seeing is Idea's that we have already discussed and said no to. They are there for all to see. I'm not saying that reworking an old idea is bad, but simply stating something that would get you gain, or sounds "Cool" and then expecting EVERYONE ELSE to come up with a good, valid Idea.
An example of this is a thread that goes in-depth on possible mechanics of Dual-wielding and two handed weapons. Just saying, I want this is, frankly stupid.
And take note, we read these suggestion because we hope to find something we can support OR help the suggester know why it may not be such a great idea... We do this. So when we read page after page of horrible Ideas that could be remedied with searching the forums (It works, just not as well as it should) or actually listening to what these veterans have to say.
We do not bash a specific person unless they do crazy (IMO) stupid stuff REPEATEDLY. Then we can get a little mad, dont'cha think? ⌐.⌐
We know that not EVERY player is smart, see all the useless threads that have been squashed to pieces because there is so much discussion AGAINST them already. But EACH player can LEARN, and really? If you wanna keep slamming you head against a brick wall, go ahead, you're only proving how stupid you are.
Fact is, we are TRYING to help, and when all the nubs say "b nice, no negative, only positive" It really... We are TRYING to be positive, to help you MOVE FORWARD, and if you can't recognize that? ... You are a baka.
Not only am I famous, but I inspire Hipster...ness... Yeah.
~Tsu
P.S. I typed in caps because I'm frankly too tired to < em > everything... -.- Also, this IS a response, but bear in mind that not only will others read it, but it is a message to them and it should NOT be taken literally, there are meanings hiding in there... in case you COULDENT tell... =.=
Sun, 04/08/2012 - 23:10
#17
"Not gonna lie - I despise
"Not gonna lie - I despise people whom I believe to be intellectually inferior to me, and unfortunately the majority of this community fits into that category."
Yeah, that really isn't condescending at all. You know, majority of people here begin to post with good intentions, and nowhere has it ever said that all suggestions made must be extremely detailed and thought out. Sometimes, people have an idea, but need help expanding it. Is this not the place to share it? It's disheartening to see people get shut down almost immediately with "NO, no no no." without actual substantial criticisms. There may be really good reasons why you disagree or maybe you've seen the idea several times, but there really isn't any need for this immense negativity. Isn't this forum a place to sit down and perhaps discuss how to make an idea that may seem slightly mediocre better? Transform it into something actually worthy of consideration? Just my thoughts.
And gosh, Kita, you baka.
Sun, 04/08/2012 - 23:14
#18
Oh I am the biggest baka alright
Oh you're the quality control are you? Fine job you're all doing what with all these bad suggestions popping up, eh?
>>And take note, we read these suggestion because we hope to find something we can support OR help the suggester know why it may not be such a great idea... We do this.
Oh good, you've admitted the only one to blame for you reading every idea that the suggester obviously thought was worth suggesting no matter how inane and asinine is your own fault.
>>We know that not EVERY player is smart, see all the useless threads that have been squashed to pieces because there is so much discussion AGAINST them already. But EACH player can LEARN, and really? If you wanna keep slamming you head against a brick wall, go ahead, you're only proving how stupid you are.
What was that about slamming heads into walls? Of your own free will and accord?
>>Fact is, we are TRYING to help, and when all the nubs say "b nice, no negative, only positive"
You do the intelligent thing, do a 180 and leave as they obviously do not want your criticism.
Sun, 04/08/2012 - 23:18
#19
+1 to kitastrophy.
Nobody
+1 to kitastrophy.
Nobody should curb the threads full of cool ideas, overpowered weapons, lag inducing mechanics, monster nerfs, healing items, and other various suggestions.
Let them run free, and only allow them to express their thought.
"my idea good, agree or gtfo"
Sun, 04/08/2012 - 23:42
#20
Lets all shout till we're blue in the jelly helm
Spending my time arguing with someone who's not going to even listen to me is such a better plan of action, right guys?
Right? I mean we've got perfect examples of that all up in this thread. SO LETS ALL ARGUE POINTLESSLY AND GET NOWHERE!
Sun, 04/08/2012 - 23:27
#21
LET'S FIGHT IT OUT TO THE
LET'S FIGHT IT OUT TO THE DEATH.
Sun, 04/08/2012 - 23:51
#22
I'm pretty sure the main
I'm pretty sure the main reasons reasonable people post on bad suggestions is to say why it's bad, and to educate the op.
Now, if you want to take it in some unintended, overthetop, and out of the way path as if we try to backseat mod, or to convert the society and economy of this game in some malicious form, that's up to you.
When a thread comes up, such as monster nerfs and lower ce prices, people will comment on why not. Because the op of such threads needs to know that such changes will not better the game. There is no way you can better such suggestions.
Mon, 04/09/2012 - 00:22
#23
In fact I do want to take it as some unintended, overthetop, and out of the way path as if the above try to backseat mod.
Various posters above seem oblivious to the fact that when a thread starts with "Lul, no critz please IT'S A GOOD IDEA" and the like they're doing nothing but spitting in the wind by neglecting the fact the suggester doesn't want to listen to other peoples input.
If those who do feel like doing such a thing are so inclined to keep dunking their heads in the bad idea bins they so clearly and piously are determined to find as busy bodies? Well boo hoo for sticking your hand in the mouse trap if it turns out said poster barfs up more of their thoughts or lack of.
You know what's a better way of getting the point across that no one else likes the idea if the poster simply doesn't get what's being explained to them?
Letting the thread necro itself off the face of the internet or be bumped by said disagreeable poster until it gets locked. This whole sticking your finger in the lightsocket business is pure ridiculousness.
Mon, 04/09/2012 - 00:42
#24
-_(\
Is this argument ever going to get anywhere?
It's going to be like trying to convince the MAKERS of stupid topics that their idea is no good.
One poster makes a point, the other is complaining people get mad over that same point.
Not many people are posting on my thread, an idea I think is pretty good, thought out and all, and I have no idea why. Not even getting haters. You think I'm going to take a hint and keep it down? Think again.
Until I get a crowd of haters/critics whose opinions I respect and know have reasons, I'll still think it's a good idea.
Mon, 04/09/2012 - 00:52
#25
lol...
"nowhere has it ever said that all suggestions made must be extremely detailed and thought out. Sometimes, people have an idea, but need help expanding it."
They're not, but when you see a thread:
"shuld be armr n weps 6* plz make", then someone says "This would be hard to balance, also, make some ideas for 6* gear and a T4".
Then the OP says "GT*O MY THRED DREM CRUSHR"
Yeah, we don't try to help at all. It's not our fault.
~Sev
Mon, 04/09/2012 - 01:33
#26
@Demonicsothe
I love your sarcasm. I just makes my night ^-^ like, really, every time I see it its like a punch bowl of justice with the sickly sweet nectar of the gods of sarcasm dripping like honey on a cold day right into it. Drip, Drop.
~<3
@Sev & Psycho
...Yeah. Uuuuuuugh! Point it out in back and white and they say they're color blind, so they cant see it. =.=
@Kita
...Again, trying to help? Ring a bell? Also, pointing out that when we post in those places, and the OP starts screaming they're heads off that we are horrible and , by the gods, restricting they're creativity or bringing negative criticism to their legitimate thread, threads like this are born, trying to fully express all of the agony of People being idoits and not taking advice, or listening when people TELL IT TO THEM STRAIGHT. Gosh.
Not only am I famous, but I inspire Hipster...ness... Yeah.
~Tsu
Mon, 04/09/2012 - 02:14
#27
Sticking... finger... in... light... socket...
What part of they don't care and they're going to keep doing it anyway and you're not helping disway them don't you understand?
>>Not many people are posting on my thread, an idea I think is pretty good, thought out and all, and I have no idea why. Not even getting haters. You think I'm going to take a hint and keep it down? Think again. Until I get a crowd of haters/critics whose opinions I respect and know have reasons, I'll still think it's a good idea.
This a perfect example of the same mentality those of you who view it as your duty to clean up this suggestion area share with the very people you give such disdain, you don't just deal with it.
>> agony of People being idoits and not taking advice
Meanwhile as those people willingly subjecting themselves to "agony" on purpose ignore the advice to perhaps stop thinking said indviduals are just going to up and change their minds in a snap simply because you say so. I'm done though, ya'll have fun being mad about videogames and the suggestions of.
Mon, 04/09/2012 - 02:25
#28
@Kitastrophy:
Uh my friend, I don't think anyone is mad here but you. In fact, I even have a thread in Gremlin Chatter which puts all the hilariously ridiculous threads in one spot to ensue laughter.
Using all caps/emphasis/bold doesn't really mean we're yelling at our screens as we type. It just means we're trying to get a point across.
It's very difficult to understand what you're saying, but what I get from that is that people will not be dissuaded immediately just cause we said so.
I STILL make the case that people don't even attempt to debate. We offer up advice and they tell us to get off their thread for "brekin mi drems". We're not at fault for them being so obstinate as to not even hardly read what we post, just get negative vibes from it and tell us to get off the forums as if they own the place.
They're free to keep doing it, but we'll keep ridiculing them for being ignorant and stubborn.
Besides, at the end of a day, we all have a good laugh.
EDIT: Oh, and your reply to Psychodestroyer doesn't make sense. He hasn't received any bad feedback, he just hasn't received much. Likely cause people see the wall of text and run away. People who suggest dumb things get only negative feedback, yet continue to shove people off their thread for being negative.
~Sev
Mon, 04/09/2012 - 02:48
#29
^
What this guy said.
I'm not going to know if my idea sucks or not unless someone comes out and says: 'bro, your idea SUCKS just graveyard nao plz b4 migraine.'
In other words, I don't know therefore not bad.
People we're complaining about are people who state an idea, INSIST it's a good one, we tell them no, they tell us we're wrong/ignore our/negative feedback/tell us we're being mean/GTFOMAITHREAD
Perfect example? You have low standards.
Also: 'dissuade'.
Ignoring people doesn't always work. Seen The-guy-whose-name-is-a-sound-effect? He spams the TV with lots of pointless threads; they all just get in your face. Better TRY to dissuade them then pretend they're not there because that just makes you look stupid for hiding in your own perfect world(where you just ignore anything you don't like.)
/Walks down the street one dark night
/Gets mugged
/Didn't like it
/ignore it: Hm? Something happen? Oh, I have blood on my face.
/Pulls out mirror: Ha, I look like I've been mugged. So random.
Mon, 04/09/2012 - 03:00
#30
o_o
"/Walks down the street one dark night
/Gets mugged
/Didn't like it
/ignore it: Hm? Something happen? Oh, I have blood on my face.
/Pulls out mirror: Ha, I look like I've been mugged. So random."
...
That "so random" comment at the end totally made that from "haha" to "HAHAHAHA".
~Sev
Mon, 04/09/2012 - 03:09
#31
*random fart*
This topic beIongs in another forum.
CUZ ITS UNDEAD.
Mon, 04/09/2012 - 09:17
#32
Thank you all...
...for making my day marvelously entertaining.
I'm just going make one point clear here.
Kitastrophy said here:
"What part of they don't care and they're going to keep doing it anyway and you're not helping disway them don't you understand?"
Earlier, I said here:
"Why should I bother to continue encouraging them after I've tried to get them to come up with details only to have them tell me I'm a jerk for not understanding their little loads of crap? Some people are just plain stupid."
"Morons will come up, because morons make up a significant percentage of the population and probability suggests that morons will constitute a similarly significant portion of forum-goers. I've got to suck it up and deal with them. It builds character."
I completely understand that stupid people will generally continue to do stupid things. Thanks for checking, though!
EDIT:
One more thing - this actually probably should be moved over to Gremlin Chatter or something. >_>
Mon, 04/09/2012 - 10:06
#33
Wow guys
While useless posts are frustrating, why not just skip past them?
I see pages and pages of useless posts on this forum every day (and on every other that I've ever frequented.)
The suggestions section can be bad, but it's not necessarily the worst that's out there, and most of the bad ideas are well-intentioned.
BY NO MEANS am I intending to criciticize the people here who're frustrated after reading some new posts and finding that too many are drivel, I feel your pain.
The idea that the community is to a certain extent quality control for ideas isn't far off. It's not that much of a stretch to think that a bad idea with good intentions with a bit of help and guidance can (sometimes) become a good, feasable idea.
That being said, even with pages of nonsense, good ideas and relevant suggestions aren't getting missed by the important people. Case in point, I made a suggestion thread to put the sounds back for the fountain and it was fixed by the next patch, even buried in the suggestions forum with hardly a bump.
The suggestions that the devs like aren't getting missed, whether or not most which they do take loads of time to consider and (maybe) implement, or they are small things buried in pages of metaphorical waste.
It may not be obvious, but even floating waist-deep in useless, the good ideas ARE getting sifted out of the grime.
The solution to all of the frustration at useless posts? If you start reading and see that an idea is inane, pointless, or completely unreasonable, why not just assume that someone else will come along to tear it to shreds (or put it lightly to the OP) and just go to the next topic?
Wouldn't it be more worth your time to post input on good ideas than to complain about or rag on bad ideas for the betterment of the game anyways? At least then the good suggestions would be getting bumps and activity, and the bad ones would be buried because people aren't rage-bumping them constantly?
Mon, 04/09/2012 - 11:02
#34
Mmmmm..... Tagg!
It applies to people here... And this is where the people who need to see it are... I GUESS if a mod wants to move it... -.-
Not only am I famous, but I inspire Hipster...ness... Yeah.
~Tsu
Mon, 04/09/2012 - 11:20
#35
waaaaaaaaaaaaaFFFFFLEEEEEEESS
waaaaaaaaaaaaaFFFFFLEEEEEEESSSS!!!
....because i felt like it
Wed, 04/11/2012 - 20:29
#37
Oh how dare you...
No, no bluebrawler.
Do not use me for your memes.
Waffles are sacred to me, leave them alone and go make your own saying.
Seriously, in all seriousness, don't mess with my waffles.
Wed, 04/11/2012 - 20:44
#39
...
Case in point for this whole thread is above me.
Not only am I famous, but I inspire Hipster...ness... Yeah.
~Tsu
Wed, 04/11/2012 - 20:52
#40
What about picking your nose so deep you cause yourself to involuntarially slam your head on the keyboard, and fart dixie in perfect pitch?