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Sat, 05/26/2012 - 01:21
Keifz's picture
Keifz

i recently went on holiday, and while I had my iPod, I was thinking, why not have a spiral knights app. If a lot of people play spiral knights, and most of them have iPhone, iPod touch etc. it will get lots of downloads.

Just think of it, you are on a journey to somewhere, on a train or a coach, you want to play spiral knights without going through logging onto a laptop. simply just use the iPod touch or iPhone.

It should have the same features as the computer, such as training hall, buying ce, bazaar etc. and when you buy something from the AH it automatically updates it on your computer. for example. You buy a avenger recipe from the AH, it automatically counts on your pc.

If you get the app from the iPod touch/iPhone, you could either log in from the account you have already. Or you could make a new one using the iPod account you have.

Sat, 05/26/2012 - 01:30
#1
Toxicblade's picture
Toxicblade
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE.

Won't work. Spiral knights runs using java. Apple handhelds don't suppport java. I don't think anyhandhelds do. So. Spiral knights needs java to play. iPod/iPhone doesn't have java. Slight problem.

Sat, 05/26/2012 - 02:52
#2
Asukalan's picture
Asukalan
Yeah, Java Spiral Knights app

Yeah, Java Spiral Knights app would be nice, almost all phones made by reliable companies support Java.

Apple dont likes java? Apple problem :P

Sat, 05/26/2012 - 04:19
#3
Keifz's picture
Keifz
yea, if apple done like it

yea, if apple done like it maybe on android market then

Sat, 05/26/2012 - 07:06
#4
Gunnerific's picture
Gunnerific
yay,

no for apple (since i don't have it (srry)) and yes fro andriod (cause i have it >.>)

but i THINK they share the same market

Sat, 05/26/2012 - 08:15
#5
Metagenic's picture
Metagenic
no just no

Even if SK was ported to mobile devices successfully it would become a "trade hits" game, not an "avoid as much damage as possible" game. Tactics like shield canceling would be near impossible (try doing that with only two thumbs rofl).

Sat, 05/26/2012 - 12:14
#6
The-Ark's picture
The-Ark
I don't think it would work

I don't think it would work on a tablet/phone. But it COULD work on a 3DS or PSV maybe.

Sun, 05/27/2012 - 01:30
#7
Keifz's picture
Keifz
yes, good idea with the 3ds

yes, good idea with the 3ds

Sun, 05/27/2012 - 02:30
#8
Asukalan's picture
Asukalan
Keifz wth? You are suggesting

Keifz wth? You are suggesting something or you are like 'whatever just make it mobile on anything'? How about a Tamagoochi? Or Nokia 3310?

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 06:44
#9
Talscar
Good idea!

Mate i like the idea of Spiral Knights on a Portable Device.
Asukalan nothing is impossible.
I think if the Lay out is right it would work Excellent.
BTW are you attacking while holding a shield? Otherwise then Yeah it be HARD to do it.

Image a Ipod and the bottom Right hand corner had Attack Button.
Just above you have a Shield Key.

What is more Common Attack or Shield?
I Find attacking is more common.

I put to O's where the Buttons Most Likely would be on a Ipod.
To have the buttons that far apart seems hard but i have had worst than that.
This would work Better than Touch Tanks which i played.
NOW that was impossible to play.
Also i think you over reacted about Tamagoochi as their is only 2 Buttons i know of on them and they could not Sustain a SK Account.
Mobile Phone Close maybe You could JUST play it.
3DS I know that is a Definite Yes.

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Anyway play around with the O's on this Screen and see how bad it would be.
I found it WAY Easyier than other games :D
BTW if i had to make a layout and show you how to play that be easy.
The hard part is to see if you can do it without being shown!

Seeya and I REALLY like this idea!

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 06:56
#10
Il-Mono-Il's picture
Il-Mono-Il
+1

At least give us acess to our inventory, AH and CE market.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 07:11
#11
Blue-Elephant's picture
Blue-Elephant
Ouh Shiny

No its been suggested and shot down for good reasons anyy time just because you are mobile doesn't meen you have to have all your games mobile, if its made for computer its made for computer.
Besides it would e super easy to abuse it would take up to much space and people I know who have macs now can barely run the game without re opening it after every vana run.

To reiderate just because yyou are mobile doesn't meen you need your game to be mobile it was made for comp, get over it.

Just because I like halo doesn't meen I beep about how I can't play it mobile, xbox hasn't come out with mobile and even if they did halo problyy wouldn't be on it except maybe halo 1.

So cry a river build a bridge to your computer sit down and get over it.
Not every game imagineable needs mobile.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 10:21
#12
Bluencool's picture
Bluencool
@talscar

he was not talking about shielding and attacking at the same time. he was talking about a tactic used by players which allows you to perform fast attacks with the 1st hit safely.

considering that you answered to metagenic at the 4th sentence.

i think ps vita is great for this job.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 13:51
#13
Skyguarder's picture
Skyguarder
Pathetic, no

Do you know how Spiral knights runs? Did you even read how it works?

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 15:44
#14
Klipik's picture
Klipik
Different kind of app

Can we have an Auction House app, then?

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 16:01
#15
Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances

OOO is a small team, wich works on different projects besides SK. Creating and maintaining such things could unnecessarily slow down everything else.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 16:06
#16
Skyguarder's picture
Skyguarder
No apps on any device

It will ruin the game due to the lag

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 16:42
#17
Klipik's picture
Klipik
??

how do apps make lag?

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 18:14
#18
Skyguarder's picture
Skyguarder
The more things you create on Spiral knights

The more it lags. If spiral knights will run on java and be on apps, it will lag because of the huge creation they have created

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 19:35
#19
Klipik's picture
Klipik
???

it already runs on java. all it will do is increase the number of players. not that it matters because touchscreen ≠ good controls.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 20:13
#20
Autofire's picture
Autofire
You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!

@ Talscar

Nothing is impossible....given the time. That's the main issue. The dev team is busy enough that they don't have much time to work on just one version of SK. Making it for more would bring things to a crawl.

@ OP

The simple rule of thumb is: if it can run Java, it can run SK. If you want SK on your favorite small system, then go ask the Sun Java team to make a port for that system. As a matter of fact, if the Java team dropped support for all the systems it runs on but one, SK would also only work on that one system. SK is reliant on Java, so where ever it goes, SK goes.

EDIT: that reminds me that I still need to hack my Wii so I can get Linux on it. Once Linux is running on it Java will run to. And when Java is running SK will run. When I have SK working on a Wii then I can take pictures and brag about it! XD

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 20:10
#21
Skyguarder's picture
Skyguarder
It can handle running on java

But making a app for spiral knights will double the lag because you would double everything. So Spiral knights will be able to run on computer and if it goes on worldwide devices, it will make a minor lag all the time because the creation is everywhere in everything.

Wed, 10/17/2012 - 20:14
#22
Skyguarder's picture
Skyguarder
Yeah, and the iPod and iPhones can't

So can't most of the devices. They DO NOT HAVE OR RUN JAVA. If you want java, I suggest you go to the Java team and beg to them to create java on other devices.

Thu, 10/18/2012 - 04:38
#23
Thunderbog's picture
Thunderbog
mobile app beggars

stahp

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 15:51
#24
Skyguarder's picture
Skyguarder
Mon, 10/22/2012 - 05:58
#25
Talscar
Right. Now if you dont think

Right.
Now if you dont think that Spiral Knights can Run on Ipod then fine.
But i gotta say their is a Lack of Support here.
Your Ment to Debate about the Idea not say "Oh it is crap. Dont do it. End of story!".
And also i lag alot on my PC with SK.
That is Connection problem and that doesnt mean the Game will lag on the Ipod.
Yeah Java Probably will not come out on the Ipod but their is something that can work.
If one person could write a Conversion Program that Merges with Apples Programming then they can make it possible.
Personally i think that Apple use C Code witch is something i am learning... Well i give up too Easy cause of my problems.
Now to stay on Topic.
If you were apart of the Team that made SK, you'd need to Decide weather to try and put it on Mobile Devices as part of the Board.
Or choose not to.
I Personally Belive it would be a good idea to have SK on Mobile Devices, Because it would make a new feel to playing the game.
I also Belive that it would encourage more gamer's to Play it.

The Reason i like the Idea is because i want to have another feel to SK as the way i play boors me.

I also Belive that they will not do much more work into SK unless they are making the CORE.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 06:25
#26
Thunderbog's picture
Thunderbog
@Talscar

I had to be a inglorious teacher for once, but please fix those random capital letters.

"Now if you dont think that Spiral Knights can Run on Ipod then fine."
"But i gotta say their is a Lack of Support here."

Elaborate where's the lack of support.
Did we?

"Your Ment to Debate about the Idea not say "Oh it is crap. Dont do it. End of story!"."

Mmhmm, and?

"And also i lag alot on my PC with SK."
"That is Connection problem and that doesnt mean the Game will lag on the Ipod."

Elaborate that 'lag' for me.
I can't see where are ye going in terms of 'lag'. I have many terms of 'lag' here. Majority latency spikes, PC issues, name it.

"Yeah Java Probably will not come out on the Ipod but their is something that can work."

Ye don't say?

"If one person could write a Conversion Program that Merges with Apples Programming then they can make it possible."
"Personally i think that Apple use C Code witch is something i am learning... Well i give up too Easy cause of my problems."

Oh, but why don't they ask Java instead?
And if ye're learning how to write an program to include java into Apple, won't ye need approval and gigglity goos?
Also, I don't know what problems they are in yer situation but if ye can't do it, please don't say that 'it's possible' yet.

"If you were apart of the Team that made SK, you'd need to Decide weather to try and put it on Mobile Devices as part of the Board. Or choose not to."

This would be Three Rings decision, but can ye imagine that they could find a mobile application to run?
Thus, what will they control?
I don't think playing LD in SK can help me do something productive. Please show me an external USB controller that is suitable for compatibility.

"I Personally Belive it would be a good idea to have SK on Mobile Devices, Because it would make a new feel to playing the game."
"I also Belive that it would encourage more gamer's to Play it."

Yeah sure.
YEAH SURE.
Sure...

This isn't my decision, nor the community, but leaves to the Three Rings to decide. However, one common sense to know that it's already impossible to make an mobile application for controls. Walking in Haven seems fine. But do ye need a tactical advance to ease the pain from the monsters? Thanks. I'll be happy to play another Fire Emblem series too.

"The Reason i like the Idea is because i want to have another feel to SK as the way i play boors me."

Do ping-pongs bores ye?

I now seldomly pick up the racket nowadays... perhaps we can go training!

"I also Belive that they will not do much more work into SK unless they are making the CORE."

Does... this proves that ye have no faith in Three Rings's work too?

I'll take a note, thanks.

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tl;dr: Rebuttal complete. I don't like this arguement.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 07:37
#27
Blue-Elephant's picture
Blue-Elephant
Ouh Shiny

And I'm back,

First off,
Did he say itt wouldn't be aot of work?

Yyour kidding me right?
Spiral knights has been in the works since forever, last free boss was roar twins... which wa lst november.

New "playable content is rare in this gme, besides the mission system and danger missions, which have become like the boses already, boring...

And yyou want them to do a whole mobile app. Okay so explain to me how this would run, teres already problems with knight placement when playing the game (shown by puting down a bomb and it being next to you instead of under.) And yyou think it would be okay on mobile. Our phone would die easy, there would be lag like no other.

On the topic of lag,

You said there would be no lag, seerusly? Seeruslyy?

You lag on your comp. Plus I lready explained macs cn barly run the game, unless you have an extra 1000 dollr ram on there.
So again what makes you think aa phone can run it?

There would be in my opinion in tech right now tha this would ever work be coded through or confirmed by SK, and if they implemented this before the core then I would quit, plain and simple.

So stop crying about your negative feedback yyour not the first to suggest this and your not the first to be bombed with hate for suggesting this atrocity.

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 17:34
#28
Marazo's picture
Marazo
Open your eyes!

Did anyone notice what Klipik said?

"Can we have an Auction House app, then?"

I always thought of an SK app as all aspects of the game except for playing. The app would include AH, alchemy machine, vendors, talking with friends/guildies, and trading (includes use of trade channel). I knew from the start that actually playing SK on a mobile device was a terrible idea, but what about the aspects that don't require you to move or attack?

When players log on from a mobile device, their friends will see "[Bob] has logged on from their mobile device" along with some distinguishing feature in the friends list, so your friends wont be trying to invite you to Vana on your iPhone. Some kind of notification when you are outbid or there is new mail would be cool too. Also, you can not log on simultaneously on mobile SK and comp SK.

Stop this unnecessary debate, we get it:
-No java on mobile
-Too much lag
-Controlling your knight will be quite a challenge

Mon, 10/22/2012 - 18:15
#29
Skyguarder's picture
Skyguarder
Enough necroing

No more. We all know that Spiral knights cannot work on other devices.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 15:27
#30
Kaheraien
All i have to say to turn this around is....

Minecraft runs on java...... Minecraft made an app

Nuff said

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 15:35
#31
Arkate's picture
Arkate
^

it is a heavily downgraded version. That sucks.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 16:37
#32
Oskvion's picture
Oskvion
Necromancers

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