Winmillion 5* in Sanctuary

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Ninjtsu's picture
Ninjtsu

What you think about make one Winmillion 5* in Sanctuary?

I think one Winmillion more strong (because 5*)... But I not know about name for this sword...

If I not post right... Sorry but I not talk good english or spanish... Only speak good portuguese brazilian.

Aplauses's picture
Aplauses
+2

Haha.. I can't think about this. Maybe it will become possible.

Ninjtsu's picture
Ninjtsu
For update post: Let me

For update post:

Let me see...

Winmillion 5*
-> Change graphic
-> Change name
-> More normal damage

And if can
-> Extended projects distance

Juances's picture
Juances
~

But I gotta ask.... why in the sanctuary?

Ninjtsu's picture
Ninjtsu
Because anyone implemented

Because anyone implemented before... So I think... If not implemented before... have one explication --> Because winmilion 5* is many powerful?

So I think... One place for accept make winmillion 5* ?

So I think = In Sanctuary

Ninjtsu's picture
Ninjtsu
Roarmulus Winmillion

Roarmulus Winmillion

Description:
A highly advanced upgrade for Winmillion created using gremlonium.

Graphic for sword:
I not know about graphic for sword, but can use Roarmulous texture anyway. But add eletric detail in "aura" for sword.

Graphic for energy disk:
Same graphic for winmillion disk energy, but add eletric detail.

Damage Type:
Normal damage, but energy disks have "Slight chance of causing Moderate Shock."

Charge attack type:
Normal damage, but energy disk have "Good chance of causing Moderate Shock." (How Storm Driver bullets shock effect status or Polaris charge effect status)

Damage table for sword except energy disks:
Same Ascended Calibur.

Damage for energy disk.
2x damage for Winmillion 4 stars energy disk.

Sorry for not speak good english.
I speak portuguese brazilian.

Waffleconecake's picture
Waffleconecake
you people

we don't need an upgrade to the winmillinon doesn't need an upgrade, it is a UTILITY weapon, this means it is more of a tool then a weapon. how is it a utility weapon? It ends with 4 stars, has ranged projectiles, and deals normal damage. Can't be any more obvious that it is meant to be a utility weapon. The only change that should be made to it is extend the distance on the projectiles, currently the wrench wand has a higher range then the winmillion.

Usevnsevnsixfivfor's picture
Usevnsevnsixfivfor
@Waffleconecake

I can see it in your head.

"Cautery Sword is a utility weapon because it is underpowered, has normal damage, and a slight advantage over the other brandishes."

Valiance is a utility weapon. I don't see it stopping at four stars. It has ranged projectiles and has normal damage. Wrench Wand is 2* exclusive with the same properties ON THE CHARGE. If Winmillion had a 5* variant, you would've never said that Winmillion is a utility weapon.

Back to the topic, FoV could be a 5* Winmillion with split normal/elmntl and a slightly nerfed fire.

Ninjtsu's picture
Ninjtsu
Waffleconecake... Let me see what I say...

Using google translator >>>

I work as a salesman, I will not say what. But, I ask suggestions from customers, and try to listen to them.

So when I talk about Winmillion with my friends they always say "If she had a version 5 stars I want it." And when I search on this forum I see several people who tried to create an upgrade for winmilion. And I think if they did it should be because they have heard a lot of people that wanted to talk too. So a lot of people wanting this game is one Winmillion 5 stars, just because it was not created for this purpose does not mean you should not change.

Original version in portuguese >>>>

Eu trabalho como vendedor, não vou dizer de quê. Mas, eu peço a sugestão dos clientes, e tento escuta-los.

Então, quando converso sobre Winmillion com meus amigos eles sempre dizem "Se ela tivesse uma versão 5 estrelas eu quero ela." E quando eu pesquiso nesse fórum vejo várias pessoas que tentaram criar um upgrade para a winmilion. E acho que se eles fizeram isso deve ser porque ouviram muita gente falar que queria também. Então, tem muita gente nesse jogo está querendo uma Winmillion 5 estrelas, só porque ela não foi criada com esse objetivo não significa que não deva mudar.

Waffleconecake's picture
Waffleconecake
my replies to Angeluzz and Usevnsevnsixfivfor

@Usevnsevnsixfivfor
I never said it had to have those quality to be a utility weapon. I don't consider the valiance a utility as it works as a wonderful normal weapon just like the nitronome. The reason why I don't consider it a utility weapon is because it doesn't offer any special ability most guns lack, if its charge attack caused a ripples in the ground from you shooting straight down that pushed away enemies and stunned turrets instead of doing damage you could argue that it can e used as a utility, but it doesn't. It has a good average damage per shot, average range, and average charge attack. That makes it a very AVERAGE weapon.

My mention of the wrench wand was me pointing out that the winmillion admittedly does need a buff, not an upgrade. It simply needs an increased range for the projectiles so the thing can be used easily. I don't consider the wrench wand to be a utility weapon, it could work for hitting switches if you wanted a longer range then the winmillion if you are going pure swords but that really is the only advantage it serves at the moment.

I don't consider the Cautery Sword as a utility weapon. I see it as a cheaper alternative to higher star weapons for killing slimes in low tires, just like the heavy deconstructor(that thing needs a change I admit that). I also feel it serves the purpose of teaching players early about UVs in a "Show me what they do" kinda way, and provides an example for new players on how some weapons are just better then others but also usually cost more.

TL;DR summery
The wrench wand is a poor man's JK run weapon, not utility. It was brought up to point out that winmillion needs a buff, not a upgrade.
The cautery sword is a side grade and teaching lesson for early players, not utility.

@Angeluzz
Original in English V V V
I like how you explained your feelings on this with a real world scenario. But enough compliments.
I get that you are trying to say that some times things are not used how they intended and I know that, but the way a thing is made in a game should not be changed to conform to how players use it unless it in any way breaks the game. As an example lets say a large group of players start using weapon X as a primary but it is obviously made to support,the weapon deals little damage but causes allot of knock back and a good chance of stun.
This group of players demand that it gets a buff so they can use it more offensively. It may be in the majorities best interest for this weapon to get said upgrade but that was not the point of the weapon.
The weapon was made to help players get out of bad situations, not dominate the battle field with spam. Because of this the game developers may want to tweak the weapon a bit to make it be even more less offensively but encourage use during bad situations.
If this weapon was a bomb they could make the charge rate faster but reduce the radius on the bomb so it is more used to push your way through a mob then to keep the mob from hurting you as you kill it.

Used google translator to change it into Portuguese V V V
Versão em português para Angeluzz V V V
Eu gosto de como você explica seus sentimentos sobre isso com um cenário do mundo real. Mas elogios suficientes.
Eu entendo que você está tentando dizer que algumas vezes as coisas não são usados ​​como eles pretendiam e eu sei disso, mas a maneira como a coisa é feita em um jogo não deve ser alterado conforme o modo como os jogadores usá-lo, a menos que de alguma forma quebra o jogo. Como exemplo, digamos que um grande grupo de jogadores começar a usar arma X como primário, mas é, obviamente, a apoiar, a arma causa pouco dano, mas faz com que colocar de volta batida e uma boa chance de atordoar.
  Este grupo de jogadores exigem que ele recebe um lustre para que eles possam usá-lo mais ofensivamente. Pode ser na maiorias melhor interesse para esta arma para se disse atualizar, mas esse não era o ponto da arma.
A arma foi feita para ajudar os jogadores a sair de situações ruins, não dominar o campo de batalha com spam. Devido a isso os desenvolvedores de jogos pode querer ajustar a arma um pouco para fazê-lo ser ainda mais menos ofensivamente, mas incentivar o uso em situações ruins.
Se essa arma era uma bomba que poderia fazer a taxa de carregamento mais rápido, mas reduzir o raio da bomba por isso é mais usado para empurrar o seu caminho através de uma multidão, em seguida, para manter a multidão de ferir você, como você matá-lo.

Scramineagle's picture
Scramineagle
Waffle, no.

@Waffle, please dont.. Just, NO! What im trying to tell you is, that Google Translate SUCKS as hell... Im not sure if he will understand something...

You are right, it is an utillity weapon, but why not upgrade it to 5* so it can be a better utillity weapon xD And, i think it would be nice..

Waffleconecake's picture
Waffleconecake
@Scramineagle

The reason no is because to create a new weapon model and to do all the coding would take more time and effort then to simply give it a range buff on the projectiles for the winmillion. That alone is all it really needs right now, not an upgrade. Also what would the 5 star look like? red? that would be disgusting, they really can't do any thing new with it.

Skyguarder's picture
Skyguarder

Idk why this thread got necro'ed.

Oh an side note, the sanctuary alchemy machine is only used for crafting gear (Armor / Helm). If the 5* winmillion is there, then other weapons for other shadow lairs have to be in there.

Besides, it doesn't deserve to be 5* since it's an utility weapon.

-1

The-Mighty-Potato's picture
The-Mighty-Potato
-1

Sure, why don't we make 5* Vitasuit Deluxe and 5* Darkfang shield and put that in there too?

No.

Sanctuary is for Helmets and Armour, not weapons.

P.S Don't necro your own threads, you don't achieve anything doing it.

Terrty's picture
Terrty
@thisentiresuggestion

what everyone fails to understand is that the original design of the sacruary is a place to go after completing SL for helm and armour only found in the sancuary @the-mighty-potato i do like your idea about a 5 star vitasuit deluxe just not in the sancuary so +1 yet -1

The-Mighty-Potato's picture
The-Mighty-Potato
@Terrty Can't tell if trolling....

Please tell me you are joking. I put No. after my sarcastic comment. And my point about the sanctuary is for Helmets and Armour, my Darkfang shield idea completely contradicts it.

P.S We don't need a 5* Vitasuit Deluxe.

Here comes my sarcastic comment:

Sure, Why don't we make 5* Swiftstrike Buckler and 5* Scarlett Shield? Because they will definitely not be OP or buffed as they become a higher star item.

P.S.S We don't need a 5* SS Buck or Scarlett Shield.

Terrty's picture
Terrty
@themightypotato

true

Ninjtsu's picture
Ninjtsu
I think...

Translated for google translator >>>>>>>

Even if it's just a weapon utility ... Even so, I still think a good idea one Winmillion 5 stars and probably not just me. In the chart I think gray as Roarmulous Arcade with a electric blue aura was more my idea.

Original version in portuguese >>>>>>>

Mesmo que seja apenas uma arma de utilidade... Ainda assim, continuo achando uma boa idéia uma Winmillion 5 estrelas e provavelmente não é apenas eu. No gráfico eu creio que cinza como o Roarmulous do Arcade com uma aura azul elétrica era mais a minha idéia.

Terrty's picture
Terrty
@themightypotato

oh and i was joking but i wasnt trolling