Spiral Knights - shadow lair weapons

shadow lair weapons

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Mon, 07/02/2012 - 00:59

Dagunner

My idea is that in the sanctuary you can craft certain weapons that require 2 of the material. Now if any of you want complain about how a shadow lair is a pay to play thing and only the people who pay money can do shadow lairs skip to the bottom. sorry about the bad photoshopping in the images of the weapons.

For the snarbolax shadow lair the weapon would be the "snarbolax claws" it is crafted from a barbarous thorn blade and has a bit less damage but allot more speed with a greatly reduced reach (because they are claws) meaning its harder to hit with.
The claws look a bit like this when on one arm (it is on both): http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2412/snarbolaxclawarm.png
The snarbolax claw is classified as a sword and attacks with both arms like dual wielding although the strikes with both claws still count as one hit (its just a dual wielding animation) it has a 6 hit combo but can only move in a straight line and not change direction meaning that it would do "high" damage but missing would be dangerous making it not OP. It's charge attack is 3 consecutive strikes identical to the snarbolax biting. and the combo is first arm swiping then second arm,then both arms, followed by two quick strikes then a big swipe with a snarbolax head biting (like the BTB charge attack without the thorns).

For the ice queen there are two bombs either the (i haven't thought of names ) blast jelly bomb and the ice jelly bomb, they are crafted from the nitronome. the bombs are pretty much a 5 star cold snap and fire cracker, i got this idea from the many people I hear saying how cool it be to have a 5 star version of those bombs. the bombs would look something like this: blast jelly (side view): http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/158/blastjellybomb.png
ice jelly bomb (side view): http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8499/icejellybomb.png
now these bombs do elemental damage and a bit less than the nitronome and they won't "replace" or over power the shiver mist and ash of agni, because the bombs only freeze and burn stuff in the radius at the instant it explodes but the shiver mist and AOA leave behind the mist so they can re freeze and affect anything that walks into the mist after the explosion.

For the red roarmulous twins there is the blaze burner (yes i have made a topic about the gun before) a fire version of the polaris with reduced knockback and weak fire (opposed to moderate shock) to solve the problems in the previous topic, making the DPS and knockback on average the same. the gun is crafted from a super nova and has stats exactly the same as the polaris only with slightly reduced knock back and weak fire.
the Blaze burner looks like this: http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4096/blazeburner.png

Finally for shadow fire vanaduke you get the Fire storm and the storm shadow (not so sure about the name of second one). they are a 5 star winmillion, the Fire storm deals fire damage and the storm shadow deals shadow (You don't say) as well as normal. The blades shoot 3 projectiles like a divine avenger on a normal hit (the projectiles are still the same) and have a slight chance of fire or curse. the charge attack is like the winmillion's charge attack only its a tornado that goes further and does fire or curse depending on sword. The swords would look like this:
fire storm: http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/874/firestorml.png
storm shadow: http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/4558/stormshadow.png

OOO would benefit from this because it would increase the amount of shadow keys bought (and Ce). it would also give the players which are getting bored of the game new things to do and save up money for. since the weapons require 2 of the special materials it would mean that even if the player buys the material from another player somewhere along the course a minimum of 2 shadow keys would be bought. so OOO will benefit too.

For those who think a shadow lair is only for those who pay and is a "pay to play" thing it really isn't. To go in a shadow lair all you really need is 400 ce and if you are hosting then a max of 600 ce, because when you go in a shadow lair with a party you usually pay 300-400 ce to the person who bought the key to cover costs so really you dont need to get a ridiculous amount. A good way to get the money would be to do FSC, if you do it from the mission you get about 10-12kcr and you can do it twice a day if you have a decent party. so in a week you could easily afford to go on a shadow lair run.

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 01:24

Bluebrawler

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Mon, 07/02/2012 - 02:07

Zeddy

I've never been to a shadow

I've never been to a shadow lair and I agree with this.

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 02:35

Metaalpha

Where'd u get that picture ?

Too OP
This idea will never EVER happen
First off
No 6* weapons
That would be OP and the gauntlet glove things ( dunno what their called ) has been suggested too many times
Winmillon is getting a 5* I think, wifinity
Blaze burner won't work because ppl would just stick with their Polaris because 1. Shock, most OP status in game and 2. Every bit of knock back is useful.
Ice bomb and fire bomb won't work if it does less dmg than nitronome people wouldn't bother wasting ce to craft a bomb that does less dmg than its 5* version
Why would you want 6* things in the first place?

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 04:37

Zeddy

I don't see anything in the

I don't see anything in the OP about 6* equipment. Where did you get that bit from?

Other than that I, too, wonder what the deal with reduced knockback on the Fire Polaris is about.

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 05:57

Juances

@Zeddy Read carefully

"For the snarbolax shadow lair the weapon would be the "snarbolax claws" it is crafted from a barbarous thorn blade and has a bit "

"For the ice queen there are two bombs either the (i haven't thought of names ) blast jelly bomb and the ice jelly bomb, they are crafted from the nitronome"

Nitronome and barbarous are 5*. So an upgrade would be..... ?

But it can be a missunderstanding :B

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 06:01

Dagunner

well...

I didn't say 6* I didn't even mention the word 6, they are still 5*. also the reason i said reduced knock back was because in the topic about the fire polaris they were saying that the knock back would be OP because the shock cancels it out so a polaris with greater knockback and DPS would be OP.
well i guess i wasn't very clear with my suggestion. Now all the weapons are all 5 star and coz of that i didn't want to make the weapons OP thats why i suggested less damage on the bombs, I was trying to say that it be a FIVE star version of the firecracker and cold snap and that it be OP if it was a nitronome that did a status affliction so if it had slightly less damage that would equal it out. and the snarbolax claws is just a fast sword with many fast moderately low damage strikes (compared to most 5* swords) with a "dual wield animation" the actual full attack would be as long as a regular sword's just with a different animation for example it would do rather than 3 hits dealing 100 each it would do 6 hits dealing 50 each. so the snabolax claws aren't OP just a sword that deals out damage slightly differently. Plus even if you might not think the blaze burner might not be effective, try shocking a quick silver or any other electric monster. And the main reasons i thought of using shadow and fire for the 5* winmillion is because the base element of vanaduke shadow lair is shadow and almost all the things there inflict curse and the actual thing is originally a fire level. so all the weapons are really weapons that are similar to other 5 stars and have the roughly same DPS and other stats as other weapons except all with something a little different. I mainly used ideas that i've heard many other people think be awesome like a 5 star winmillion, dual wielding (although many people were against that i saw a suggestion of just using it as an animation), a 5 star cold snap and fire cracker, a fire polaris that isn't OP and the fact that many ppl are getting bored coz there isn't any new things to do such as save up and get new equipment. although there may not be many or almost any post about some of those ideas. most ideas i heard while talking to ppl in game who dont use the forums. BTW i made the pictures.

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 06:03

Dagunner

blue brawler please

BlueBrawler if you have a problem with my suggestion you should at least point out why it's bad. otherwise its just really a random post with a random picture.

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 06:06

Dagunner

wait a sec... I said they'd be crafted from 5 stars .The weapons should be crafted from the 4 stars. I made a mistake there.

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 06:11

Juances

I'm pointing the fact that a nitronome is a 5*. Shouldnt you need to use Master blast Bomb instead?
And instead of Barbarous blade, dark thorn.

It creates a disparity later since winmillion is 4*.

But tehre's also the problem that the original snarbolax blade is a boss reward, unlike everything else. And gunners only get 1 gun.

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 06:20

#10

Dagunner

i just said that

juances i just said that they should be crafted from their 4 star forms

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 09:03

#11

Luguiru

This again

Hiding under the table then proposing the same things does not make them better.

The claws combine dual wielding with Cutter with the Flourish charge attack.

The two bombs would be overpowered. "No they would not" is not valid because they would be. It would have to have low damage and rates of status affliction based on the status and base damage rates.

This was rejected last time and it is the same as in the old thread.

The two swords combine a sword-gun with Divine Avenger then give them statuses.

I am going to relieve my bowels now. On the floor.

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 18:31

#12

Dagunner

firstly with the claws charge

firstly with the claws charge is really more like an alpha wolver attack and so what if it's similar to the cutter many weapons have similar attack rates, the two bombs I did say had to have reduced damage otherwise they'd be OP.
And the I only talked about before was the blaze burner in a previous thread and all the problems presented with that I had said fixed and changed the idea because in the thread the only two problem was that if you were to have a polaris that did moderate fire it would have higher DPS and the knock back be allot higher because shock sometimes cancels it out. Thats why I said it, I did change it from the previous thread you would know if you read it.
and with the 5 star winmillion the 3 projectiles wouldn't be as good as it may sound, if you have ever used a divine avenger you would know what i'm talking about especially if the projectiles are many times smaller because they rarely hit anything and when they do its most of the time close range. Plus really the firestorm only burns with the projectile and charge and the projectile has a low chance of fire just like every other 5 star and with curse it is the same curse rate of the Gran faust which is extremely rare. So really they're just all regular 5 stars just upgraded from weapons that don't reach 5 star or a weapon that is similar to another 5 star . And what type of weapon does fire and doesn't set things on fire? and the reason I put in curse is because to get the sword you would have to do 5 levels that have about 1000 cursing enemies each level and it's filled traps that all do curse and you have to do it twice so I thought if you're going to get a shadow sword from a Curse based level the sword should curse.

hiding under the table and re-presenting it doesn't make it better. But seeing what was wrong with it and fixing it does make it better

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